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  1. "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]>typed

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    foldability?

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    Excellent. Fast and small.


    Very quick.

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    will they fit on an aeroplane?


    Saw someone at BikeFest who told me someone on his plane
    had taken Brompton as hand luggage and rode off from the
    plane. I think that might be stretching some airlines'
    tolerance. I think they'd be fine as checked baggage. I've
    not tried this though.

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    Depends on the size of the aeroplane. Boom boom!

    Quoted message said:
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    alternatives?

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    A lot these days but nothing to match the foldability.

    Birdy are good, pricy, rigid and slower to fold than
    the Brompton.

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    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  2. Tim Downie said:
    Bob Downie said:

    Anyone here have any opinions on Brompton cycles?

    <snip>

    Hi Bob, fancy meeting you here. ;-)

    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-one
    else has raised which is height (or rather, leg length).

    As you know I'm a short [censored] and I find the saddle height,
    even at its absolute maximum (and then some), just
    adequate. Unless you go for the extended seat post, I
    thing you'd find the saddle height too low.

    If we knew Bob how you know Bob!

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    The downside to the extended seat-post is the the whole
    package isn't going to stow away quite so neatly although
    looking at the website, I see that they do a telescopic
    extention for the seat-post as well now.

    Mine came with a telescopic seatpost and it is certainly
    useful if you have long legs. You can either set the
    internal part of the telescope permanently, sacrificing
    folded package size for speed of fold, or do both quick
    releases each time, faffy but the fold is a bit smaller.

    I now use a longer replacement seatpost so if anyone wants a
    telescopic post for a knockdown price then let me know.

    Colin

  3. Colin Blackburn said:
    Tim Downie said:
    Bob Downie said:

    Anyone here have any opinions on Brompton cycles?

    <snip>

    Hi Bob, fancy meeting you here. ;-)

    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-one
    else has raised which is height (or rather, leg length).

    As you know I'm a short [censored] and I find the saddle
    height, even at its absolute maximum (and then some),
    just adequate. Unless you go for the extended seat post,
    I thing you'd find the saddle height too low.

    If we knew Bob how you know Bob!

    You might notice a certain similarity in our surnames. It's
    not a coincidence. ;-)

    Tim
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  4. Tim Downie said:
    Colin Blackburn said:
    Tim Downie said:

    Bob Downie wrote:
    > Anyone here have any opinions on Brompton cycles?

    <snip>

    Hi Bob, fancy meeting you here. ;-)


    ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If we knew Bob how you know Bob!

    You might notice a certain similarity in our surnames.
    It's not a coincidence. ;-)

    Is he junior?

    Colin

  5. "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]>typed

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    On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:55:12 +0100, Bob Downie <bob_news@downie-
    geo#n0spam#.co.uk> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
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    Thanks for the help folks.

    Here's the killer question. If your kids were needing
    new shoes would you still buy a T6 Brompton?

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    Yes. Though as I have no kids so it's academic. Hell, if I
    had 'em I'd send 'em up chimneys for a Brompton.

    I offered my 12-year-old nephew one of my bicycles when I
    could no longer ride. I had two audax-type tourers, a
    Brompton & a Pedersen (I'm not sure if I'd already sold my
    trusty old Kuwahara Pacer hybrid)

    He chose the Brompton.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  6. Colin Blackburn said:
    Tim Downie said:
    Colin Blackburn said:

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:10:27 +0100, Tim Downie
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Bob Downie wrote:
    >> Anyone here have any opinions on Brompton cycles?
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > Hi Bob, fancy meeting you here. ;-)


    ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If we knew Bob how you know Bob!

    You might notice a certain similarity in our surnames.
    It's not a coincidence. ;-)

    Is he junior?

    He's *ancient*
    (zen31010.zen.co.ukBob.jpg.) I'm merely
    middle aged. (zen31010.zen.co.ukPS04.jpg)

    ;-)

    Tim

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  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is he junior?

    He's *ancient*
    (zen31010.zen.co.ukBob.jpg.) I'm merely
    middle aged.
    (zen31010.zen.co.ukPS04.jpg)

    ;-)

    Tim


    If you are trying to goad me into a reply it won't work. I'm
    saying nothing.
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    reply directly

  8. "Tim Downie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Downie said:

    Anyone here have any opinions on Brompton cycles?

    <snip>

    Hi Bob, fancy meeting you here. ;-)

    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-one
    else has raised which is height (or rather, leg length).

    As you know I'm a short [censored] and I find the saddle height,
    even at its absolute maximum (and then some), just
    adequate. Unless you go for the extended seat post, I
    thing you'd find the saddle height too low. The downside
    to the extended seat-post is the the whole package isn't
    going to stow away quite so neatly although looking at the
    website, I see that they do a telescopic extention for the
    seat-post as well now.

    You'll gain a couple of inches just by changing saddles
    using the Brompton seat post adapter. I was using an
    extended post with the original saddle, since with the
    original post the saddle height was marginally indequate,
    but I disliked the effect on the folded size, and missed the
    convenience of simply raising the post to full height. That
    saddle eventually came apart and rather than get another
    rather naff Brompton one I got a cheap but comfortable rail-
    mounted one + adapter and mounted it low on the standard
    post. The height's now correct, the folded size is virtually
    the same and on unfolding I'm back to raising the post up to
    the stop. Result!

    Ben

  9. Tim Downie said:


    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-one
    else has raised which is height (or rather, leg length).

    As you know I'm a short [censored] and I find the saddle height,
    even at its absolute maximum (and then some), just
    adequate. Unless you go for the extended seat post, I
    thing you'd find the saddle height too low. The downside
    to the extended seat-post is the the whole package isn't
    going to stow away quite so neatly although looking at the
    website, I see that they do a telescopic extention for the
    seat-post as well now.

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post but
    the second post is only used to extend the height by about
    3" so I would have thought the standard post would be fine
    for most people.

    Tony

  10. Bob Downie said:


    Here's the killer question. If your kids were needing new
    shoes would you still buy a T6 Brompton?

    Kids? Shoes? I keep them barefoot. If you buy them shoes
    they'll only grow out of them so better to not set their
    expectations and keep the money for bikes ;-)

    Tony

  11. Tony Raven said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would
    be fine for most people.

    Depends on one's style and preferences, I think. I'm 5'8"
    and relatively short legs (inside 31" IIRC), and I have the
    standard post right up at the top and the saddle set as high
    up as the mount will allow (about an extra inch). My
    slightly taller and lankier friend with a Brom has his a
    couple of inches lower.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111
    ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382
    640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net
    [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  12. Peter Clinch said:
    Tony Raven said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would
    be fine for most people.

    Depends on one's style and preferences, I think. I'm 5'8"
    and relatively short legs (inside 31" IIRC), and I have
    the standard post right up at the top and the saddle set
    as high up as the mount will allow (about an extra inch).
    My slightly taller and lankier friend with a Brom has his
    a couple of inches lower.

    As I say, I'm surprised with an inside leg 6" longer than
    yours IIRC, and my saddle set as on all my other bikes so
    that my leg is straight with my heel on the pedal (you can't
    put the saddle much higher than that and still pedal) its
    only a few inches extension.

    Tony

  13. On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:07:34 +0100,

    Peter Clinch said:
    Tony Raven said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would
    be fine for most people.

    Depends on one's style and preferences, I think. I'm 5'8"
    and relatively short legs (inside 31" IIRC),

    I would say that you have quite ordinary sized legs. I'm
    5'7" and have an inside leg of 28". But your point about
    style and preferences are well made.

    --
    Andy Leighton => [email hidden] "The Lord is my
    shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials"
    - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

  14. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Tim Downie said:


    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-
    one else has raised which is height (or rather, leg
    length).

    As you know I'm a short [censored] and I find the saddle
    height, even at its absolute maximum (and then some),
    just adequate. Unless you go for the extended seat post,
    I thing you'd find the saddle height too low. The
    downside to the extended seat-post is the the whole
    package isn't going to stow away quite so neatly
    although looking at the website, I see that they do a
    telescopic extention for the seat-post as well now.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would
    be fine for most people.

    Quoted message said:

    Tony

    The standard seat post was out fully for me (5'6" at a
    stretch)

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  15. Andy Leighton <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    Tony Raven said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat
    post but the second post is only used to extend the
    height by about 3" so I would have thought the standard
    post would be fine for most people.

    Depends on one's style and preferences, I think. I'm
    5'8" and relatively short legs (inside 31" IIRC),

    Quoted message said:

    I would say that you have quite ordinary sized legs. I'm
    5'7" and have an inside leg of 28". But your point about
    style and preferences are well made.

    My legs are 31"...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  16. Tony Raven said:


    Tim Downie said:


    Just thought I'd butt in with one observation that no-
    one else has raised which is height (or rather, leg
    length).

    Quoted message said:

    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would
    be fine for most people.

    I'm 5'7" and find that the standard post has to be at its
    limit. If its not pulled up as far as it will go, I find it
    like riding a BMX [1]

    [1] Not that I'm admitting to riding a BMX, no, never never.

    John B

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    davek said:

    Bob Downie:

    Quoted message said:

    ride quality? foldability? will they fit on an aeroplane?
    which model? prices? alternatives?

    Prices are on www.bromptonbicycle.co.uk - and those are the
    prices you can expect to pay for a new bike because they
    don't allow dealers to sell them for less (according to my
    local Brompton dealer).

    This is illegal. As I understand it no supplier of goods is
    permitted to dictate to the reseller what price they must
    charge. If Brompton Bicycle Ltd. are actually doing this
    then they're exposing themselves to some interesting legal
    problems in the future.

    Of course, it's more likely that the dealer was bullshitting
    you. It's much easier for him to blame the supplier than to
    say "No, I'm not giving you a discount".

    Phil
    --
    kantaka.co.ukkantaka.co.uk .oOo. public key:
    kantaka.co.ukgpg.txt

  18. In article said:


    I'm surprised. I'm 6'6" and use the telescopic seat post
    but the second post is only used to extend the height by
    about 3" so I would have thought the standard post would be
    fine for most people.

    I'm 6'3" and on a quick test ride found a Brompton almost
    unrideable with a standard post. (LBS didn't have a longer
    or telescopic post in stock to try.)

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