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  1. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food/#more-146

    No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

    Excerpts:

    "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
    bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
    $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy but
    nutritious foods.
    The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
    in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period. High-calorie
    foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8 percent.

    Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
    it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
    low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The average
    American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people spend
    about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."

    Dee Dee

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    Quoted message said:

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food/#more-146

    No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

    Excerpts:

    "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
    bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
    $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy
    but nutritious foods.
    The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
    in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period.
    High-calorie foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8
    percent.

    Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
    it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
    low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The
    average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people
    spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."

    Dee Dee

    When I was in college I ate a lot of rice and beans. I learned to cook
    soups; navy bean, lentil, split pea.

    Mitch

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    Quoted message said:

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food/#more-146

    No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

    You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article as
    it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are effectively
    starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food prices really so high
    for nutritious food?

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
    surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a currency
    converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
    eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
    on the meat component of the meal.

    It was such a thought provoking post that I have now spent some time
    wandering cyberspace. Thank you.

    Quoted message said:

    Excerpts:

    "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
    bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average

    Quoted message said:

    $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy
    but nutritious foods.

    The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
    in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period.
    High-calorie foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8
    percent.

    Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
    it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
    low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The
    average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people
    spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."

    Dee Dee

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    Quoted message said:

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food
    /#more-146

    No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

    You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article
    as it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are
    effectively starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food
    prices really so high for nutritious food?

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
    that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did
    a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if
    the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least
    $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the meal.

    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop somewhere
    cheaper...

    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but do-able,
    especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated things. I can
    feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper products and other non-
    food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just have
    to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about specific
    ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.

    <snip>

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    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
    somewhere cheaper...

    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but do-able,
    especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated things. I
    can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper products and
    other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just
    have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about
    specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.

    Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
    was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned if
    I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll spend it
    but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack 😉 Lately we have been
    buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have limited
    freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on grocery items
    but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell you to the penny
    what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do know if I had only $7
    a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be buying a lot of legumes
    and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have to add funds for the GasX
    though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be [censored].

    Michael

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    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just
    have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about
    specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.

    Sorry, just had to come back to this Sarah. What does the original poster
    use for staples? I honestly think we have enough tomato sauce, flour, pasta
    and rice in the house to feed us for a month. Maybe it is just me. I'm huge
    on stocking staples. I think I could feed us all just on what is in my
    pantry. I might have to buy a ham hock or 2 for seasoning though. I'm not
    trying to rail on the original poster. I'm just trying to understand.

    Michael

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  7. "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
    surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
    currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two
    of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my
    currency just on the meat component of the meal.

    I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
    all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
    Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
    food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
    that there are 2 of us.

    nancy

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    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
    somewhere cheaper...

    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
    do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
    things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
    products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
    just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
    about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
    such.

    Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
    was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
    if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
    spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack 😉 Lately we
    have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
    limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
    grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
    you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
    know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
    buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
    to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
    [censored].

    Michael

    They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
    their currency... I actually did the math wrong, that would make it
    $17.56 per pound in US dollars, assuming a quarter pound per serving.
    Even at a half pund per serving, that's more than I'd pay for meat,
    unless I had an unlimited budget, or was splurging for some reason.

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    They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
    their currency... I actually did the math wrong, that would make it
    $17.56 per pound in US dollars, assuming a quarter pound per serving.
    Even at a half pund per serving, that's more than I'd pay for meat,
    unless I had an unlimited budget, or was splurging for some reason.

    Good Gawd. Do you recall the currency? A good splurge is fine but sheesh. I
    wonder if they just don't have a place to shop. I got in on this thread
    real late so just tell me to shove off if you want. I just think everyone
    deserves to eat and get medical care. Call it a personal issue if you want.

    Michael

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    "Michael \"Dog3\"" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
    somewhere cheaper...

    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
    do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
    things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
    products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
    just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
    about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
    such.

    Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
    was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
    if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
    spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack 😉 Lately we
    have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
    limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
    grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
    you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
    know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
    buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
    to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
    [censored].

    Michael

    They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
    their currency... I actually did the math wrong, that would make it
    $17.56 per pound in US dollars, assuming a quarter pound per serving.
    Even at a half pund per serving, that's more than I'd pay for meat,
    unless I had an unlimited budget, or was splurging for some reason.

    Perhaps the NYTimes author assumes that everyone lives in NY -- just as the
    political pundits seem to think we all have the D.C. mindset.

    I found the 'comments' at the bottom of the article interesting.

    Dee Dee

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    Perhaps the NYTimes author assumes that everyone lives in NY -- just
    as the political pundits seem to think we all have the D.C. mindset.

    I found the 'comments' at the bottom of the article interesting.

    Dee Dee

    I tell ya'. I'm feeling bad for this person. I'm ready to ship out some
    food to this person. Hell, just give my friend Martha an address. She'll
    have 2 martinis and the recipient will get a food package and a jar of her
    favorite olives. If her car smashes into my fence one more time she's gonna
    need her olives.

    Michael <- I've had a long night

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    Quoted message said:

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
    surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
    currency
    converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
    eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
    on the meat component of the meal.

    Going by the prices quoted by Americans here, the cost of their
    supermarket basic supplies are jaw-droppingly cheap compared with the
    UK, especially their meat prices.

    Take a look here for examples of UK prices in ASDA. ASDA is owned by
    Walmart, and roughly 30% cheaper than my local supermarket.

    https://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/FirstTimerWizard/Step1.aspx?LastTrolley=False

    Janet.

  13. On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:21:36 GMT, Sarah Gray <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

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    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food
    /#more-146

    No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

    You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article
    as it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are
    effectively starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food
    prices really so high for nutritious food?

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
    that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did
    a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if
    the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least
    $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the meal.

    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop somewhere
    cheaper...

    $10 Australian dollars is $8.73 in US dollars.
    http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html

    Quoted message said:


    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but do-able,
    especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated things. I can
    feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper products and other non-
    food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just have
    to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about specific
    ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.

    <snip>


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    Susan N.

    "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
    48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
    Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

  14. Michael 'Dog3 said:

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    All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
    somewhere cheaper...

    $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
    do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
    things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
    products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

    The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
    just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
    about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
    such.

    Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
    was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
    if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
    spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack 😉 Lately we
    have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
    limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
    grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
    you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
    know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
    buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
    to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
    [censored].

    Michael

    I checked with the butcher at Schnuck's about a 7 lb. (granted, it's bone-in
    which adds to the weight but those bones make great stock!) standing rib
    roast. Even that only costs $11.00/lb right now. I can't imagine paying
    $16.00/lb! Shop sales, shop wisely, use coupons.

    Jill

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    I checked with the butcher at Schnuck's about a 7 lb. (granted, it's
    bone-in
    which adds to the weight but those bones make great stock!) standing rib
    roast. Even that only costs $11.00/lb right now. I can't imagine paying
    $16.00/lb! Shop sales, shop wisely, use coupons.

    Jill

    And stay away from Savenor's in Boston, which offers:

    Prime rib bone-in at $16.99
    Prime rib boneless at $23.99
    Prime tenderloin at $45.99

    Don't even <ask> about Kobe beef.

    Felice

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    They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
    their currency...

    Quoted message said:

    Good Gawd. Do you recall the currency? A good splurge is fine but sheesh. I
    wonder if they just don't have a place to shop.

    It was farm1 in Australia. You just have no clue how cheap your food
    is in America :-)

    Janet (in Scotland)

  17. Nancy Young said:

    "FarmI" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
    surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
    currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two
    of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my
    currency just on the meat component of the meal.

    I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
    all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
    Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
    food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
    that there are 2 of us.

    You can eat "decent" at $14 for two but certainly not much more than
    bare essentials... there'd be little fresh produce, not much in way of
    beverages except plain tap water, no snacks to speak, certainly no
    alcoholic beverages, and you'd need to go real easy on the cheese,
    even Velveeta ain't cheap, not much desserts (store brand jello?),
    real skimpy on herbs and spices... I can go on. Sure, you can eat
    inexpensive meat cuts but even then there wouldn't be much money left
    over for accompaniments... and stews and soups every day get old fast,
    especilaly if made low cost POW style (very juicy). Even a pound of
    balogna costs like $5.... and then you need bread, mustard and maybe
    some cheese and lettuce... where's the pickle, slaw, and beer. Yes,
    you can subsist on $7 but portions will be small and uninteresting,
    pretty much hospital/prison food.

    The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
    cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
    servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
    meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.

    $14 a day feeds my six cats.

    $14 a day is my average food bill for just me... Holiday meals are
    probably the least expensive, turkey and ham is cheap. To be
    perfectly honest I can easily fix a chef's salad for just me and it
    will cost about $14... a measly can of decent sardines costs $3, and I
    will usually use two (they're small).... but if I use one I add a can
    of premium red salmon, costs $5... by the time I add all the produce,
    a bunch of olives, a can of sliced beets, a couple sliced eggs, maybe
    a fistful of walnuts, and some dressing I'm sure I got $14 on the
    plate. I eat a lot of tinned fish, it's very healthful but definitely
    not cheap... and I can't open just enough for me unless I want to try
    to eat around six cat noses in my plate.

    I spend a bit more than $100 a week on just food to feed just me,
    purrrty close to another $100 a week to feed my six cats.
    And I don't consider my usual diet very oppulent, it's mustly just
    ordinary foods, but I don't skimp on the accompaniments just so I can
    eat lobster and prime rib, in fact I probably haven't eaten lobster in
    more than 10 years, shrimp neither, it's not something I crave, in
    fact I think it's highly over rated, I'd much rather my sardines. But
    me and my guys like our steak, so two small porterhouse ($14 worth) is
    a dinner for us, and then there are veggies (cat's eat veggies too),
    and my guys drink water but I drink a few 2nis. And I don't always
    drink Crystal Palace... my booze bill is about $100 a week, and I
    really don't drink a lot, maybe two drinks a day... mostly a tall
    glass filled with ice, grapefruit juice, and a double shot of vodka...
    the grapefruit juice costs as much if not more than the vodka but
    juice is pasrt of the drink so itsprice counts, ice ain't free
    either. But I'll also splurge on good scotch, Champagne, and my
    favorite Ruffino dago red.

    I've no idea how yoose eat for $7/day.... must be a lot of pasta with
    two grape meata balles.

    Oranges cost a buck a piece, I just ate two as an appetizer for
    breakfast, supposed to eat "5 A Day", I eat more fresh produce than
    what's considered a serving (btw, 5 a day is the minimum), apples cost
    a buck a piece too, you're not gonna be eating much fresh produce on
    $7/day, even a small crummy head of iceberg costs $2. Not sure what
    else yet but I'm thinking my 1 quart bowl of raisin bran... need lots
    of room for milk, yoose know why... my cats polish off a can of evap
    first thing every morning. Dried cereal is expensive, milk ain't
    cheap anymore, even one banana costs 30 cents. A lot of people feed
    their pets [censored] foods, the cheapest brands they can find and no
    variety... a high quality diet costs a whole lot less than vet bills.
    Same with people too, eat cheap now pay big medical bills later.

    Yesterday I picked up a plain cheese pie from the local pizzaria, just
    happened to cost $13.95... $14 by my math. They make pizzas much
    smaller than the 18" they used to years ago, and now they're very
    stingy with the topping, this was 14", I finished it for lunch and
    wasn't even full... years ago 3 slices and I was busting. A 14" pie
    is actually about half the size of an 18" pie. When I was a kid the
    corner pizzeria made 20" pies, so loaded with real mozz you could
    barely handle a slice, and the entire pie cost 75 cents... then one
    slice cost 10 cents and was enough for lunch. But today's food prices
    are much different... back than an oversized hot corned beef on rye at
    the kosher deli cost 35 cents... a full meal on real linen soup to
    dessert with all the trimmings with impeccable service cost 35cents at
    the Chinese.

    I'm sorry, but unless you're in prison you can't eat a proper diet in
    the US on $7/day, no way, no how, anyone claims they can doesn't have
    the foggiest concept of a decent proper healthful diet, or they choose
    not to remember what all they consume. And food costs in the US are
    probably the lowest on the planet, but still, $7 barely buys a couple
    ham n' cheese sammiches... a friggin' can of Spam, 4 slices of rye, a
    few Kraft singles, mustard, pickle, slaw and a quart of milk costs
    about ten bucks, and that's a do it yerself at home lunch for two, and
    it sure ain't decent, more lurid. Anyone tells me on average they eat
    decent on $7 an entire day I say is a pinnochio nosed fibber, or
    weighs in at less than my six cats... but then your idea of decent
    ain't mine.

    Sheldon

  18. Sheldon said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "FarmI" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
    that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I
    did a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency
    and, if the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd
    spend at least $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the
    meal.

    I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
    all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
    Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
    food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
    that there are 2 of us.

    The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
    cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
    servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
    meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.


    You seem to think everyone lives in New York. Produce where I live is the
    least expensive thing you can buy even if you don't take the farmers market
    (closes October - March or so) and roadside produce stands into
    consideration. As for the rest of it, there's a good reason to live down
    south. We have a longer growing season, hence cheaper produce for locally
    grown items. Even with the imports, from the examples you gave (which I
    snipped) everything costs less. I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call
    pre-ground "mystery meat" - ground chuck is $1.59/lb here. Even
    flash-frozen seafood is cheap.

    Jill

  19. Janet Baraclough said:
    Quoted message said:

    from "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
    surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. �I did a
    currency
    converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
    eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
    on the meat component of the meal.

    � Going by the prices quoted by Americans here, the cost of their
    supermarket basic supplies �are jaw-droppingly cheap compared withthe
    UK, especially their meat prices.

    � �Take a look here for examples of UK prices in ASDA. ASDA is owned by
    Walmart, and roughly 30% cheaper than my local supermarket.

    https://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/FirstTimerWizard/Step1.aspx?

    Seems an account is necessary to enter that site... why don't you
    simply list some basic foods with average prices, I have no reason not
    to believe you, I know food costs substantially less in the US.

    Sheldon

  20. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "FarmI" wrote

    > The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
    > that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I
    > did a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency
    > and, if the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd
    > spend at least $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the
    > meal.

    I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
    all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
    Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
    food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
    that there are 2 of us.

    The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
    cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
    servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
    meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.

    Quoted message said:

    You seem to think everyone lives in New York. Produce where I live is the
    least expensive thing you can buy even if you don't take the farmers
    market
    (closes October - March or so) and roadside produce stands into
    consideration. As for the rest of it, there's a good reason to live down
    south. We have a longer growing season, hence cheaper produce for locally
    grown items. Even with the imports, from the examples you gave (which I
    snipped) everything costs less. I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call
    pre-ground "mystery meat" - ground chuck is $1.59/lb here. Even
    flash-frozen seafood is cheap.

    Jill

    Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks, so
    he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average, too.
    If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to, not
    because he's a prisoner of high prices.

    Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
    ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
    example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
    consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound.

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