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  1. I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear the shudders from here!
    However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled potatoes and boiled cabbage of my
    youth, followed by good old Spotted [censored] for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school food.
    My mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.)

    The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now bears the influence of so
    many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first
    link I list is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's excellent. The
    second link will show how much more sophisticated British cooking has become.

    Helen's British Cooking Site - hwatson.force9.co.ukhwatson.force9.co.uk BBC Food -
    bbc.co.ukfood Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk

    Dora

    [email hidden]

    limey at toad dot net

  2. limey said:

    I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear the shudders from here!
    However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled potatoes and boiled cabbage of
    my youth, followed by good old Spotted [censored] for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school
    food. My mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.)

    Ah, but Dora, I still just love 'mince' with mashed potatoes 🙂

    Jill

    Quoted message said:


    The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now bears the influence of so
    many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the
    first link I list is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's
    excellent. The second link will show how much more sophisticated British cooking has become.

    Helen's British Cooking Site - hwatson.force9.co.ukhwatson.force9.co.uk BBC Food -
    bbc.co.ukfood Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk

    Dora

    [email hidden]

    limey at toad dot net

  3. "limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear the shudders from here!
    However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled potatoes and boiled cabbage of
    my youth, followed by good old Spotted [censored] for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school
    food. My mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.)

    The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now bears the influence of so
    many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the
    first link I list is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's
    excellent. The second link will show how much more sophisticated British cooking has become.

    Helen's British Cooking Site - hwatson.force9.co.ukhwatson.force9.co.uk BBC Food -
    bbc.co.ukfood Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk

    Dora

    [email hidden]

    limey at toad dot net

    Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on rationing after world warII.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  4. I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from
    the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown
    sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and treacle [censored], to name a few
    things.
    "limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and I can hear


    the

    Quoted message said:

    shudders from here! However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the boiled


    potatoes

    Quoted message said:

    and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old Spotted [censored] for dessert. (Actually, I'm
    talking only about school food. My mother was


    an

    Quoted message said:

    excellent and imaginative cook.)

    The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the cooking now


    bears

    Quoted message said:

    the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities. Indian, Chinese


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Italian eateries abound. However, the first link I list is the one I


    always

    Quoted message said:

    turn to when I want to find familiar recipes - it's excellent. The second link will show how much
    more sophisticated British cooking has become.

    Helen's British Cooking Site - hwatson.force9.co.ukhwatson.force9.co.uk BBC Food -
    bbc.co.ukfood Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk

    Dora

    [email hidden]

    limey at toad dot net

  5. limey said:

    Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk

    Oh heavens not Delia!!! The woman should have her apron taken away with the bad info she gives and
    the fact that she is lawer than Ken Hom in TV ability just makes her even more annoying. I'll take
    Nigel Slater any day, or even AWT. At least they enjoy food and it shows.

    Boycott Delia!!!!!!

    Cristina - should be president of her anti fan club Info on Moving to Italy and Driving in Italy
    cristinasweb.comcristinasweb.com

  6. "hahabogus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : "limey" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:
    :
    : > I know, I know. I'm going to talk about British cooking and
    I can
    : > hear the shudders from here! However, British cooking has come a long, long way from the
    boiled
    : > potatoes and boiled cabbage of my youth, followed by good old
    Spotted
    : > [censored] for dessert. (Actually, I'm talking only about school
    food. My
    : > mother was an excellent and imaginative cook.)
    : >
    : > The world invaded the British Isles some time back and the
    cooking now
    : > bears the influence of so many nationalities and ethnicities.
    Indian,
    : > Chinese and Italian eateries abound. However, the first link
    I list
    : > is the one I always turn to when I want to find familiar
    recipes -
    : > it's excellent. The second link will show how much more
    sophisticated
    : > British cooking has become.
    : >
    : > Helen's British Cooking Site -
    hwatson.force9.co.ukhwatson.force9.co.uk
    : > BBC Food - bbc.co.ukfood Delia Smith - deliasmith.co.ukdeliasmith.co.uk
    : >
    : > Dora
    : >
    : > [email hidden]
    : >
    : > limey at toad dot net
    : >
    : >
    : >
    :
    : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on
    rationing
    : after world warII.
    :
    : --
    :===========

    Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over several years before she was born!

    I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank you for posting them.

    --
    Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply

  7. "Rick & Cyndi" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:v0FUb.185867$5V2.905741@attbi_s53:

    Quoted message said:

    Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over several years before she was born!

    Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early 60's. Whole generations
    learned to cook poorly and make do because of the rationing. At least that's my theory.

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  8. "Rick & Cyndi" wrote in message > "hahabogus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    : >


    :
    : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still on
    rationing
    : after world warII.
    :

    Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was over several years before she was born!

    I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank you for posting them.

    Cyndi

    Thanks, Cyndi - we gals have to stick together, right?

    Dora

  9. "hahabogus" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early 60's. Whole generations
    learned to cook poorly and make do because of the rationing. At least that's my theory.


    Well, haha, the youth I'm talking about goes further back than post WWII - in retrospect, I think it
    was the 17th century?

    You're right about the post-war rationing. Dismal times. I wasn't allowed to learn to cook, because
    my mother couldn't risk my failures - not with one egg a week, two ounces of butter, four ounces of
    marg (ghastly stuff), a little lard and a miniscule amount of meat. Britons were ridiculed about the
    amount of baked beans on toast they ate as a main meal, but those beans kept us going. No wonder we
    were all sylph-like.

    Dora

  10. Crookshanks said:

    I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from the obvious fish and
    chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and
    treacle [censored], to name a few things.

    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.

  11. My mother was cooking in England long before World War II even began and she used her recipes
    etc. here in New Zealand well into the 1970s long after rationing had stopped here. The most
    comprehensive recipe books available here were from England - often accompanying the stove
    one bought!

    I have to say that her cooking was fairly bland, with little variation
    - and I think she probably reflected the Depression era type of cooking, where many English people
    simply couldn't afford the types of ingredients that are so common now. The BIG treat for the year
    was a sirloin roast of beef with Yorkshire Pudding! Followed by treacle [censored] and cream!

    I may be wrong in this summary, but as she is still alive at 97 and pretty alert, she says herself
    that many vegetables available now were quite unknown to her even 20 years ago.

    Until about 25 years ago I cannot remember ever seeing avocado, broccoli, capsicum, courgette, yam,
    or the many variants of even lettuce now so readily available in greengrocers shops.

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.

  12. "limey" < & Cyndi" & "hahabogus" < > wrote in
    : message
    : > > : >
    : > :
    : > : Don't forget the Britian of your youth was probably still
    on
    : > rationing
    : > : after world warII.
    : > :
    : >
    : > Not! Dora is only 37 R.F.C. years old!! World War II was
    over
    : > several years before she was born!
    : >
    : > I look forward to looking through those sites Dora. Thank
    you
    : > for posting them.
    : >
    : > Cyndi
    :
    : Thanks, Cyndi - we gals have to stick together, right?
    :
    : Dora
    : ===

    You Betcha!!
    --
    Cyndi <Remove a "b" to reply

  13. hahabogus said:

    Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early 60's. Whole generations
    learned to cook poorly and make do because of the rationing. At least that's my theory.

    My father was in the air force and was stationed in the UK for three years during the war. As a
    result, there were two things that were never served in our house when I was a kid, lamb and
    Brussels Sprouts.

    I was raised on "English cooking". It wasn't so bad, other than over cooked beef and gooshy
    vegetables. There's nothing wrong with a nice roast of beef with gravy and Yorkshire pudding. Over
    cooking the beef can almost be justified by the nice beefy gravy that you can get from the juices.

  14. "Daisy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Crookshanks said:

    I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup,
    sticky toffee pudding, and treacle [censored], to name a


    few

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    things.

    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Yes, you can buy it here. Cost Plus World Market now sells Lyles Golden Syrup. Also, most British
    import stores carry it. Never had a problem getting it. What part of California is your cousin in? I
    also live in Cali.

    Nadine

  15. Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at L.A.'s Farmer's Market (the store
    next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's Golden Syrup, as does Cost Plus World Market, and perhaps Bristol
    Farms. Hope your cousin finds it!

    P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally different in taste! "Daisy"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Crookshanks said:

    I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup,
    sticky toffee pudding, and treacle [censored], to name a


    few

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    things.

    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.

  16. On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:17:00 -0500, "limey" <[email hidden]>
    arranged random neurons, so they looked like this:

    Quoted message said:


    "hahabogus" wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Britan was still on Rationing well into the late 50's and maybe the early 60's. Whole generations
    learned to cook poorly and make do because of the rationing. At least that's my theory.


    Well, haha, the youth I'm talking about goes further back than post WWII - in retrospect, I think
    it was the 17th century?

    You're right about the post-war rationing. Dismal times. I wasn't allowed to learn to cook, because
    my mother couldn't risk my failures - not with one egg a week, two ounces of butter, four ounces of
    marg (ghastly stuff), a little lard and a miniscule amount of meat. Britons were ridiculed about
    the amount of baked beans on toast they ate as a main meal, but those beans kept us going. No
    wonder we were all sylph-like.


    Okay, so 'splain Winston Churchill, Loosey <g>

    Seriously, the DH and I went to Lakenheath American HS in Suffolk in the mid-60s, which was a
    boarding school in those days, and our cooks were all Brits. We were snotty teenagers and I shudder
    to think what comments we made on the cafeteria line about the food. AFEX (Armed Forces EXchange
    Services) provided the food, but the Brits did the cooking and strange meals they often were, as the
    British cooks struggled with American provisions, cookbooks and menus. The latter 2 items often went
    out the window, AFAICS, and some, erm, "interesting" concoctions were served. We all learned to
    dread Fridays, however, as every non-meat leftover was pitched together and served over rice under
    the heading of "chow mein." I believe "economy" was the byword.

    Oh, and I will never, ever blame my nightmares about dried eggs on the Brits. That's strictly on the
    shoulders of AFEX. ;-)

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

    "If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as old as the bird, and if the
    bird's breasts had been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very good dinner." Anonymous.

    To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox"

  17. "Daisy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Daisy.

    Advise her to go to her local Vons Supermarket when the strike is over.

    Charlie

  18. Crookshanks said:

    Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at L.A.'s Farmer's Market (the store
    next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's Golden Syrup, as does Cost Plus World Market, and perhaps
    Bristol Farms. Hope your cousin finds it!

    P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally different in taste! "Daisy"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Crookshanks said:

    I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup,
    sticky toffee pudding, and treacle [censored], to name a


    few

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    things.

    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.



    My cousin lives near Nevada City in Northern California. I think she is in a rural area. If you know
    of somewhere she can buy golden syrup in that area, I shall certainly tell her. She gets pretty
    desperate sometimes ... LOL

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.

  19. Daisy <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Crookshanks said:

    Where in CA does your cousin live? I know at the grocery store at
    L.A.'s Farmer's Market (the store next to Sur La Table) sells Lyle's Golden Syrup, as does Cost
    Plus World Market, and perhaps Bristol Farms. Hope your cousin finds it!

    P.S. Some cookbooks say you can sub light corn syrup, but it's totally different in taste! "Daisy"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:21:59 GMT, "Crookshanks" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides


    from

    Quoted message said:

    >the obvious fish and chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup,
    >sticky toffee pudding, and treacle [censored], to name a


    few

    Quoted message said:

    >things.

    I have a cousin living in California who says she cannot buy golden syrup. Is it not readily
    available in the US?

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.



    My cousin lives near Nevada City in Northern California. I think she is in a rural area. If you
    know of somewhere she can buy golden syrup in that area, I shall certainly tell her. She gets
    pretty desperate sometimes ... LOL

    Daisy.

    Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.

    Why not order?

    shop.store.yahoo.comgoldensyrup.html

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Crookshanks said:

    I actually love British food, thanks in part to Nigella Lawson. Asides from the obvious fish and
    chips, I've been opened up to a new world of brown sauce, golden syrup, sticky toffee pudding, and
    treacle [censored], to name a few things.

    Those are wonderful things! I think that basics are what I think of when I think of British
    cooking, though. Things like roasting, baked goods and desserts, oh, and fish and chips. As for
    modern British cookery, I don't see it as any more British than people see American food as
    American, it is often borrowed from other cultures.

    Regards, Ranee

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