Bristol-Bath cycle path could become a bus route.

[Ekul Namsob]

David Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:54:37 GMT someone who may be
> [email protected] (Ekul Namsob) wrote this:-
>
> >Naïvety is the potential problem here. I would gladly take my daughter
> >on a dedicated cycle path. I wouldn't take her (unattached) on a road
> >and would be very cautious about taking her somewhere with parallel tram
> >lines.
>
> There hasn't been a holocaust of young cyclists where a tramway and
> cycle track run together for a long distance between Birmingham and
> Wolverhampton. Where the two are in close proximity there is a low
> fence, where they are further apart there is nothing at all between
> the two (though the formation in this case is wider than the one in
> Bristol).

Ah. I'd misunderstood. I had visions of Like-a-bikes scurrying out of
the way of oncoming trams.

Cheers,
Luke

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[Mike Sales]

> David Hansen >>>>
>> There hasn't been a holocaust of young cyclists where a tramway and
>> cycle track run together for a long distance between Birmingham and
>> Wolverhampton. Where the two are in close proximity there is a low
>> fence, where they are further apart there is nothing at all between
>> the two (though the formation in this case is wider than the one in
>> Bristol).
>
The trackbed of the Welsh Highland Railway from Caernarfon to Beddgelert is
shared with the cyclepath for some distance. There is a fence between. It's
fun to race the trains. (In spite of my expressed aversion to cycle
farcilities in other threads, I have to make an exception for this variety.
Mostly pleasant to ride on, but some of the cyclists are lethal.)

Mike Sales

 

[burtthebike]

"Paul Boyd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 19/01/2008 22:28, Martin Dann said,
>
>> I suspect, given Bristol council's recent history, that they will spend a
>> couple of million of my money researching the idea, doing studies, before
>> junking it. But I don't want to chance it.
>
> Anyone remember the Avon Metro? I did a school project on that wonderful
> scheme that would alleviate the traffic problems in Bristol. That was 27
> years ago...

Ah, fond memories. How time flies......just like the pigs!

 

[Paul Boyd]

Rob Morley said the following on 20/01/2008 17:44:

> Would it really be a significant problem in the proposed application? I
> know that tram lines can be hazardous in a street situation, but I'd
> have thought that cyclists would be well enough aware of tracks running
> along a dedicated cycle path that they wouldn't cause any more of a
> problem than kerbs.

As I see it, the tracks would be segregated from the cyclepath. It's
all hypothetical though because this will go he same way as all the
other great ideas to solve the traffic problems in Bristol.

Incidentally, I had to drive into Bristol last Friday, leaving
Weston-super-Mare at 3:30pm. I needed to go to the CityLink depot in
Barton Hill. ***********, does Bristol have traffic problems? I got
back home at about 6pm. And don't even mention cars RLJing....

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[JNugent]

Paul Boyd wrote:

> On 19/01/2008 17:43, John Kane said,

>> A guided bus route is drastically different from a tram route.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bus_track.jpg

> That seems like a good idea! Whatever the technicalities, it's still a
> lane reserved for some sort of bus/tram/train alongside a cyclepath.
> Last time I was along the Bristol-Bath path, half of the width was
> unused for most of the length, and as the "green" view as that more
> people should get out of their cars and use public transport, then
> what's wrong with this? Or is it just because it might have some small
> impact on "us" - the NIMBY view? I would personally say that the Avon
> Valley Railway should have more to worry about than the cyclists.

> Like I said before though, I would still prefer to fix the problem at
> source - get more buses on the existing routes offering a service that
> people will be willing to use.

Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M), the whole thing sounds like a damn
good idea. A disused rail route without enough height restriction
issues to rule out buses is just crying out to be used.

 

[Tim Hall]

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:35:15 +0000, JNugent
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),

<applause>
--

Tim

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[Dave Larrington]

In news:[email protected],
Tim Hall <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to
tell us:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:35:15 +0000, JNugent
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>> Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),
>
> <applause>

Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.

--
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<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Where's the gin?

 

[Ian Jelf]

In message <[email protected]>, Dave Larrington
<[email protected]> writes
>In news:[email protected],
>Tim Hall <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to
>tell us:
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:35:15 +0000, JNugent
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>> Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),
>>
>> <applause>
>
>Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.

Try Googling for "Horace Batchelor" and Keynsham! (Or Cadbury's and
Keynsham, for that matter.)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
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[Paul Boyd]

Dave Larrington said the following on 23/01/2008 08:32:

> Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.

It's spelt K-e-y-n-s-h-a-m.

It used to have a chocolate factory, but Them Upstairs wanted to close
it so the unions decided to try to accelerate the closure.

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[Dave Larrington]

In news:[email protected],
Ian Jelf <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
> In message <[email protected]>, Dave Larrington
> <[email protected]> writes
>> In news:[email protected],
>> Tim Hall <[email protected]> tweaked the
>> Babbage-Engine to tell us:
>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:35:15 +0000, JNugent
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>>> Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),
>>>
>>> <applause>
>>
>> Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.
>
> Try Googling for "Horace Batchelor" and Keynsham! (Or Cadbury's and
> Keynsham, for that matter.)

It seems we have a customer lacking in-depth knowledge of Bonzo's lyrics...

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Funny... You don't /look/ like Martha and the Vandellas!

 

[Ian Jelf]

In message <[email protected]>, Dave Larrington
<[email protected]> writes
>In news:[email protected],
>Ian Jelf <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
>> In message <[email protected]>, Dave Larrington
>> <[email protected]> writes
>>> In news:[email protected],
>>> Tim Hall <[email protected]> tweaked the
>>> Babbage-Engine to tell us:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:35:15 +0000, JNugent
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>>>> Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),
>>>>
>>>> <applause>
>>>
>>> Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.
>>
>> Try Googling for "Horace Batchelor" and Keynsham! (Or Cadbury's and
>> Keynsham, for that matter.)
>
>It seems we have a customer lacking in-depth knowledge of Bonzo's lyrics...

Okay, I've now Google for Bonzo and have found the reference.
Tragically, this element of Somerset's cultural heritage had so far
eluded me!
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

 

[burtthebike]

"Ian Jelf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Okay, I've now Google for Bonzo and have found the reference. Tragically,
> this element of Somerset's cultural heritage had so far

Somerset!!!!!!???????

 

[Danny Colyer]

On 23/01/2008 19:10, burtthebike wrote:
> "Ian Jelf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>Okay, I've now Google for Bonzo and have found the reference. Tragically,
>>this element of Somerset's cultural heritage had so far
>
> Somerset!!!!!!???????

Well, the LA is Bath & North East Somerset, and t'aint Bath.

--
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Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
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[Ian Jelf]

In message <[email protected]>, burtthebike
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"Ian Jelf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Okay, I've now Google for Bonzo and have found the reference.
>>Tragically, this element of Somerset's cultural heritage had so far
>
>Somerset!!!!!!???????

As in they chose to name it after a town in Somerset?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

 

[Ian Jelf]

In message <[email protected]>, burtthebike
<[email protected]> writes
>
>"Ian Jelf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Okay, I've now Google for Bonzo and have found the reference.
>>Tragically, this element of Somerset's cultural heritage had so far
>
>Somerset!!!!!!???????

As in they chose to name it after a town in Somerset?
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

 

[[email protected]]

In message <[email protected]>
"Dave Larrington" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>> Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>> Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),
>>
>> <applause>

> Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.


Had something to do with an allusion to an advert. on Radio Luxemburg
for "infra-red draws" which was always pronounced "drawers", an item
of underwear, thus causing amusement to me many years ago. So long ago
I could be wrong!

--
Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

 

[Martin Dann]

Martin Dann wrote:
> One of the few good examples of an off road cycle track could become a
> bus route according to my local rag.

Sustrans have announced that they plan to fight this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7207116.stm

 

[Blippie]

>>>>Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>>>Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),

>>> <applause>

>> Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.

>Had something to do with an allusion to an advert. on Radio Luxemburg
>for "infra-red draws" which was always pronounced "drawers", an item
>of underwear, thus causing amusement to me many years ago. So long ago
>I could be wrong!

No fear of that. It was the "Infradraw method" that Horace used to do the
pools. You sent him your pools money and he did the pools for you.
Unsuprisingly it was a bit of a scam.

All you need to know about Keynsham is here:
http://www.cameltrophyvehicles.com/keynsham.htm

Cheers

Blippie

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[JNugent]

[email protected]m wrote:

> "Dave Larrington" <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>>Knowing the route between Bath and Bristol fairly well (that's
>>>>Keynsham, spelt: K E Y N S H A M),

>>><applause>

>>Keynsham. Tell me more about Keynsham.

> Had something to do with an allusion to an advert. on Radio Luxemburg
> for "infra-red draws" which was always pronounced "drawers", an item
> of underwear, thus causing amusement to me many years ago. So long ago
> I could be wrong!

I have an audio recording (which is available somewhere on the net) -
Horace B used to promote his "infra-draw method".

He claimed to have one a large number of "treble-chance first
dividends". Never having "done" the pools, I remember the terms being
bandies about but don't know what they meant. What I did wonder (even
then, is why - if the "infra-draw method" worked - Horace didn't just
do the pools again for himself rather than selling his method. I
suppose the same question applies to all tipsters.