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  1. I had a fun ride today doing the Cycleogical 10 lap Mt Cootha challenge.
    Cycleogical are a brisbane shop, and they are a good bunch of guys. There
    were about 60 riders,some doing 10 laps, some 5, and some sick freaks doing
    1 lap r*n, 3 lap bike. It wasn't too hot early on with a bit of mist on the
    mountain top, but it got up around 30 degrees later on. It's a pretty
    relaxed event, just a bit of fun and a good personal challenge. I managed to
    do 10 laps last year, my aim was just to do the same as I haven't been
    training much lately.

    I had a 12-25 cassette and I was glad I did ,as I saw lots of people
    suffering with 23s and 21s. Slowly there were less and less people riding,
    till there were only a couple left. I had planned to climb at around 75-80%
    of my maximum heartrate which was around 10-14kph, lower than what I'd do in
    a race or ITT but if you cramp up on the hills it's game over. In the end I
    could have gone a bit harder as I still had some in the tank on the last lap
    which was my fastest my about a minute but I'm lazy. There is one big climb,
    then basically it's undulating over the top. Those little pinch climbs are
    nothing when you're fresh but they're a right [censored] towards the end
    though!

    One guy with huge calves came past me on lap 8 up the big 10% climb - I
    thought about going with him but didn't want to blow up so just maintained
    my hare and the tortoise pace. He finished about 5 minutes ahead of me.
    Another guy I was riding with earlier came in a few minutes after me and I
    think we may have been the only riders to do 10 laps.

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Here's a HR/speed/altitude graph.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/23699506@N00/72272778/

    Anyhow if you are looking for a challenge I'm sure they'll do it again next
    year. It boggles my mind how the pros can do huge 240km+ stages in the big
    tours and still climb 2 or 3 times faster (mostly without drug cheating).

    Adam

  2. "adam85" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:


    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Awesome stuff adam85! Lap 5 and lap 10 are standouts.. 2.4kms of up in one
    ride is a monster effort..

    cheers,
    GPL

  3. Nice effort. You'll sleep well tonight. While you nuts were doing that, saner types were out doing the Port - Wellington Point - Cleveland Point - Victoria Point ride. Much much flatter 😄 😄

    Which direction where you lapping? - up the front face, or around the back and up past the TV stations?

    Interesting to note from the graph that your HR maxed out at the end of laps 5 and 10. Do you think this is due to the psychological impact of "half way there" followed 5 laps later by "holy [censored] I'm done", or for some other reason did you consciously work harder on these laps.

  4. "monsterman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    Nice effort. You'll sleep well tonight. While you nuts were doing
    that, saner types were out doing the Port - Wellington Point -
    Cleveland Point - Victoria Point ride. Much much flatter 😄 😄

    That's a good ride around there.

    Quoted message said:

    Which direction where you lapping? - up the front face, or around the
    back and up past the TV stations?

    Anticlockwise, it's a bit steeper that way.

    Quoted message said:

    Interesting to note from the graph that your HR maxed out at the end of
    laps 5 and 10. Do you think this is due to the psychological impact of
    "half way there" followed 5 laps later by "holy [censored] I'm done", or for
    some other reason did you consciously work harder on these laps.

    nah someone passed me (he was on lap 2) and I chased him him over
    the top that's all. Last lap I picked up the pace to get a good time.

    Adam

  5. On 2005-12-11, GPLama (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

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    Quoted message said:


    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Awesome stuff adam85! Lap 5 and lap 10 are standouts.. 2.4kms of up in one
    ride is a monster effort..

    I was going to make a joek about him copying and pasting the graph 10
    times until I saw it 🙂

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  6. adam85 wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Well done on the awesome ride, dude! It was a hot day - what time did
    the race start?

    I was up early for a 5am race start, and surprised myself (and all my
    mates) by finishing in 4 hours, 40 minutes and 35 seconds for the 50km.
    The second half was much hotter and I stopped every 15min or so for a
    beach shower. I didn't eat enough in the first half and got a bad stitch
    in the 2nd half as a result but once I got my gut working again it went
    well and I ran home.

    And I am even capable of walking today, so expect a faster time next
    race!

    Tam

  7. Tamyka Bell said:

    adam85 wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Well done on the awesome ride, dude! It was a hot day - what time did
    the race start?

    I was up early for a 5am race start, and surprised myself (and all my
    mates) by finishing in 4 hours, 40 minutes and 35 seconds for the 50km.
    The second half was much hotter and I stopped every 15min or so for a
    beach shower. I didn't eat enough in the first half and got a bad stitch
    in the 2nd half as a result but once I got my gut working again it went
    well and I ran home.

    And I am even capable of walking today, so expect a faster time next
    race!

    Tam


    ohhhhhh man I miss Mt Coo-tha soooooo much..... without doubt the best thing Brisbane has to offer.... I rode up Mt Ainslie and Black Mountain in Canberra on Friday, Mt Ainslie was a nice little climb that is for sure...... think it was 10% the sign said anyway, would have loved to be in a Mt Cootha event... I think I used to ride it 3 times a week, even ran 4 laps by myself once.... great effort! great place for a race.

    Hey Tamkya, sounds like we are learning the same things.... eating makes an amazing difference early on in an event..!!! Nice work on the 50 kms... as well.... tough, very tough.

  8. MikeyOz wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Hey Tamyka, sounds like we are learning the same things.... eating
    makes an amazing difference early on in an event..!!! Nice work on the
    50 kms... as well.... tough, very tough.

    I've always been a big eater during events! At my first half ironman I
    took in about 6 Gu as well as some Enervit GT tabs. But for ultras I
    need solids. Big solids. One PowerBar and the rest energy gel/tabs is
    not enough solids. Might try a steak next time 😉

    Tam

  9. "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was up early for a 5am race start, and surprised myself (and all my
    mates) by finishing in 4 hours, 40 minutes and 35 seconds for the 50km.
    The second half was much hotter and I stopped every 15min or so for a
    beach shower. I didn't eat enough in the first half and got a bad stitch
    in the 2nd half as a result but once I got my gut working again it went
    well and I ran home.

    And I am even capable of walking today, so expect a faster time next
    race!

    Tam

    Well done Tam, that's great! I still think you runners are all freaks
    though.

    Adam

  10. adam85 said:

    I had a 12-25 cassette and I was glad I did ,as I saw lots of people
    suffering with 23s and 21s. Slowly there were less and less people riding,
    till there were only a couple left. I had planned to climb at around 75-80%
    of my maximum heartrate which was around 10-14kph, lower than what I'd do in
    a race or ITT but if you cramp up on the hills it's game over.

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Here's a HR/speed/altitude graph.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/23699506@N00/72272778/

    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    I was happy just to do 3 repeats up Mt Gravatt this morning 🙂

  11. Tamyka Bell said:

    MikeyOz wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Hey Tamyka, sounds like we are learning the same things.... eating
    makes an amazing difference early on in an event..!!! Nice work on the
    50 kms... as well.... tough, very tough.

    I've always been a big eater during events! At my first half ironman I
    took in about 6 Gu as well as some Enervit GT tabs. But for ultras I
    need solids. Big solids. One PowerBar and the rest energy gel/tabs is
    not enough solids. Might try a steak next time 😉

    Tam


    6 gu's!! my god I think i would be sick, my next step is to get used to taking in the hydrated concentrated carb stuff, while running, and working on more gu's while riding im glad I had a dry food bar after the swim...... that was awesome.

  12. quote='Peka'On Sun said:

    I had a 12-25 cassette and I was glad I did ,as I saw lots of people
    suffering with 23s and 21s. Slowly there were less and less people riding,
    till there were only a couple left. I had planned to climb at around 75-80%
    of my maximum heartrate which was around 10-14kph, lower than what I'd do in
    a race or ITT but if you cramp up on the hills it's game over.

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Here's a HR/speed/altitude graph.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/23699506@N00/72272778/

    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    I was happy just to do 3 repeats up Mt Gravatt this morning 🙂[/QUOTE]
    ohhh that is a longer then just a Mt Cootha lap, that first hill up from the round-a-bout is a real killer, its easy to get caught for speeding down there as well, EVEN on the bike because the cops are there so often and they do pull you up!!

  13. MikeyOz said:


    Peka said:
    adam85 said:

    I had a 12-25 cassette and I was glad I did ,as I saw lots of people
    suffering with 23s and 21s. Slowly there were less and less people


    riding,

    Quoted message said:

    till there were only a couple left. I had planned to climb at around


    75-80%

    Quoted message said:

    of my maximum heartrate which was around 10-14kph, lower than what I'd


    do in

    Quoted message said:

    a race or ITT but if you cramp up on the hills it's game over.

    Stats:
    3hr51min
    93.3km
    24.2kph ave speed
    Total ascent 2444
    Powerade consumed: 5.5L (and I *still* got dehydrated)

    Here's a HR/speed/altitude graph.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/23699506@N00/72272778/

    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    I was happy just to do 3 repeats up Mt Gravatt this morning 🙂


    ohhh that is a longer then just a Mt Cootha lap, that first hill up
    from the round-a-bout is a real killer, its easy to get caught for
    speeding down there as well, EVEN on the bike because the cops are
    there so often and they do pull you up!!

    --
    MikeyOz

    That first hill is definitely the worst. Worst to run up, worst to ride
    up. I was glad the first time I did it on the MTB - nice easy gearing!

    Tam

  14. MikeyOz said:


    Peka said:


    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    Quoted message said:

    ohhh that is a longer then just a Mt Cootha lap, that first hill up
    from the round-a-bout is a real killer, its easy to get caught for
    speeding down there as well, EVEN on the bike because the cops are
    there so often and they do pull you up!!

    Yeah that first one is a killer for sure, but I've gone around
    clockwise. Anticlockwise you get a rest straight after that hill,
    while clockwise you keep climbing up past that gravel parking spot
    with the view of the city.

    Did a killer climb yesterday on a MTB ride from Gap Creek to Nebo and
    back. It's called 'Augies' and its a b!stard that just never seems to
    end. It is 3km long and I'd estimate at least 12% - it is much steeper
    than a few 10% climbs I've done but no one on the ride (that did that
    climb) had anything that measured ascent. The thought of stopping for
    a rest crossed my mind a few times but I wouldn't allow myself to.
    Some suggested that climb was in the region of 400-500m ascent but I
    don't know how accurate that claim is.

  15. Peka said:

    On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:15:40 +1100, MikeyOz
    Yeah that first one is a killer for sure, but I've gone around
    clockwise. Anticlockwise you get a rest straight after that hill,
    while clockwise you keep climbing up past that gravel parking spot
    with the view of the city.

    Did a killer climb yesterday on a MTB ride from Gap Creek to Nebo and
    back. It's called 'Augies' and its a b!stard that just never seems to
    end. It is 3km long and I'd estimate at least 12% - it is much steeper
    than a few 10% climbs I've done but no one on the ride (that did that
    climb) had anything that measured ascent. The thought of stopping for
    a rest crossed my mind a few times but I wouldn't allow myself to.
    Some suggested that climb was in the region of 400-500m ascent but I
    don't know how accurate that claim is.

    Not sure if I've done that one when I've done that right but there are some long hills that's for sure. I've got a few altitude profiles from there, I can take a look later. I've got a nice google earth map with a ride plot from there and a few other climbs at:

    members.optusnet.com.auClimbs.html

    Adam

  16. Peka said:

    On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:15:40 +1100, MikeyOz

    Quoted message said:


    Peka said:


    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    Quoted message said:

    ohhh that is a longer then just a Mt Cootha lap, that first hill up
    from the round-a-bout is a real killer, its easy to get caught for
    speeding down there as well, EVEN on the bike because the cops are
    there so often and they do pull you up!!

    Yeah that first one is a killer for sure, but I've gone around
    clockwise. Anticlockwise you get a rest straight after that hill,
    while clockwise you keep climbing up past that gravel parking spot
    with the view of the city.

    Did a killer climb yesterday on a MTB ride from Gap Creek to Nebo and
    back. It's called 'Augies' and its a b!stard that just never seems to
    end. It is 3km long and I'd estimate at least 12% - it is much steeper
    than a few 10% climbs I've done but no one on the ride (that did that
    climb) had anything that measured ascent. The thought of stopping for
    a rest crossed my mind a few times but I wouldn't allow myself to.
    Some suggested that climb was in the region of 400-500m ascent but I
    don't know how accurate that claim is.

    That's the one - a _real_ killer of a hill, you climb for ages at a (sort of) medium grade, then you go around a hairpin and cross a bridge over a small gully and then it goes up up up!

    Ouch!

    Ritch

  17. Peka said:


    MikeyOz said:


    Peka said:


    Good stuff, if I'd known about that I would've done it for sure. Last
    time I did Cootha a couple of months ago I did the climbing at around
    14kmh, avg about 22kmh I think from the Toowong roundabout back to the
    Toowong roundabout, but that was only 1 lap and I was completely
    rooted when I got home.

    Quoted message said:

    ohhh that is a longer then just a Mt Cootha lap, that first hill up
    from the round-a-bout is a real killer, its easy to get caught for
    speeding down there as well, EVEN on the bike because the cops are
    there so often and they do pull you up!!

    Yeah that first one is a killer for sure, but I've gone around
    clockwise. Anticlockwise you get a rest straight after that hill,
    while clockwise you keep climbing up past that gravel parking spot
    with the view of the city.

    <snip>
    I don't think that matters, as you will see looking at any map that the
    anti-clockwise hill is actually significantly higher, so you deserve the
    rest before it... and when you're doing multiple loops, you get the rest
    in between anyway 😉

    Mt Coot-tha is another one that's MUCH more fun to RUN.

    Tam

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