Brian - Doubletalk this one

Umm, yeah, see... it's really bribe money see.... yeah bribe money....

On 1 Jul 2005 06:20:50 -0700, "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

It looks like Lance Armstrong is one of the people who has been funding
the doping tests at the UCI.

Of course he didn't want it publically known since there will now no
doubt be someone who wants to get even.

So, who will take the first cheap shot at Lance? I'm betting that it's
Brian.

"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

It looks like Lance Armstrong is one of the people who has been funding
the doping tests at the UCI.

Of course he didn't want it publically known since there will now no
doubt be someone who wants to get even.

So, who will take the first cheap shot at Lance? I'm betting that it's
Brian.

This was discussed here several months ago when Verbruggen first revealed
that Armstrong was doing this type of thing. You must have been in a coma
back then and your double, IIRC was posting comments about it. Also, IIRC,
there were some rather scathing letters to VeloNews about Armstrong's
payments.

B. Lafferty said:

Here are the letters from VN 4/22/05;

You may not be doubletalking, but you are doubleposting.

"Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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B. Lafferty said:

Here are the letters from VN 4/22/05;

You may not be doubletalking, but you are doubleposting.

So what?

It is unethical, not to mention stupid, for the UCI to accept such
donations.

Question: Who can come up with one decision, action, or initiative
that the UCI has gotten *right*?

That organization is a joke.

-RJ

B. Lafferty copy-and-pasted from Velonews:

Quoted message said:

An ethical governing body should not be accepting donations from those
that they intend to fairly and impartially govern over.

What if you just let them buy your house for $700K over its market price,
sell you their house for under market price, and let you live on their
boat rent-free?

Robert Chung said:

What if you just let them buy your house for $700K over its market price,
sell you their house for under market price, and let you live on their
boat rent-free?

All is forgiven if you are top gun!

unethical? Unfair? Come on. Give the guy a break. Riders have been
dodging tests, going unnoticed because the organizers/ federations/
teams/ local region that performs the tests (EG: today's Jeuness et
Sport) don't want a +ve to dirty their name/event or the sport as a
whole,etc etc. The guy has just taken it to a slightly new level... he
really is at the cutting edge of "cycling", he's ahead of all the rest.
natural progression.

ronaldo_jeremiah said:

It is unethical, not to mention stupid, for the UCI to accept such
donations.

Question: Who can come up with one decision, action, or initiative
that the UCI has gotten *right*?

That organization is a joke.

-RJ

Got to agree here. There is no way in hell that they should've been
taking money from someone subject to their testing. This is just a
really bad situation. It's like [censored] Cheney or Bill Clinton hand
picking the people who were going to investigate them. The conflict of
interest is just too ugly to make any result credible.
Personally I think Lance is a freak and has been basically clean since
the cancer, but this doesn't look good and will add fuel to the fire. I
don't think that Lance is even vaguely at fault though. If the
organization had any reasonable ethics they would have politely turned
down the money, or suggested that Lance donate it to some other part of
cycling development.
Bill C