breaststroke in 2 weeks

"Jan Buchwald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I'm not sure about the rules [for breaststroke]...

1. do I've to touch the wall with my hand when I do the turn, or is it enough to touch it with my
feet?

You have to touch with *both hands* at the same time and same level. You should turn and push off in
a powerful flat streamline position just below the surface. Then take one pull ending up with the
hands at the sides and still in streamline position. Finally sneak your hands back up to forward
streamline and execute a kick bringing your head to the surface. Your head must break the surface
before the widest part of this second pull.

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2. the start: what are the major phases of the start?

Stand with your toes just over the edge of the block. Squat down and grab the edges of the block
just outside your feet (or just inside, your preference). Explosively leap straight out in a
horizontal streamline extension and pike very slightly to enter the water with the arms in the
streamline position above the head. Then do the breakout as described above.

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I've enough spare time and hopefully enough will power, to do everything i need to get faster then
1:50. I would appreciate any suggestions of how to become a faster swimmer.

Great starts and turns will save you about 3-4 seconds on a 100. You can probably achieve the
remaining 7 seconds you need by increasing your stroke rate and eliminating any gliding phase.
Without seeing your stroke, it's hard to give technique advice. Have a look at the breaststroke
videos at this site and try to emulate what the elites are doing:

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Don

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In order to pass the qualitfying examination of the german sport

university

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cologne I have to do some swimming.

Well I'm in good shape for the other sports but my swimming is worring me.

I've 18 days left and started my swimming exercises today, I know it's

damn

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late but anyway even if a have to go swimming twice a day i have to make

it.

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I bought some goggles and and a water resistant watch?

I've to swim 100m breaststroke in 1:50, that's the limit for . Today's

best

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attempt was something around 2:00. Now I'm looking for the best strategy to get faster in 14 days.
But got no clue about drills, etc... etc..

So what can I say about my technique.

I did the 2:00 today without using the starting-block, I've pushed myself

of

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the wall. I got no proper turn, which means that I used to touch the wall with my right hand, turn
around and push off the wall. Then I do one leg stroke followed by one arm stroke and then break
through the surface.

In my opininion i should get some sec with a starting block and with a better turn, because i
think that i should have pretty strong legs (volleyball, basketball player).

I'm not sure about the rules...

1. do I've to touch the wall with my hand when I do the turn, or is it enough to touch it with my
feet?

2. the start: what are the major phases of the start?

I've enough spare time and hopefully enough will power, to do everything i need to get faster then
1:50. I would appreciate any suggestions of how to become a faster swimmer.

Anyway...I wanna go to the Library on monday and look for some books on swimming.

Please help!

Jan

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On 24 Jan,

Donald Graft said:

You have to touch with *both hands* at the same time and same level.

Haven't had to be at the same level for some years under FINA rules.

Definitely both hands at the same time though.

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I'm not sure about the rules [for breaststroke]...

1. do I've to touch the wall with my hand when I do the turn, or is it enough to touch it with
my feet?

You have to touch with *both hands* at the same time and same level. You should turn and push off
in a powerful flat streamline position just below the surface. Then take one pull ending up with
the hands at the sides and still in streamline position. Finally sneak your hands back up to
forward streamline and execute a kick bringing your head to the surface. Your head must break the
surface before the widest part of this second pull.

do I've to touch with the whole hand or just the fingers? When I touch the wall, let's say at the
surface, where do I put my feet? right under the surface? In which direction are the toes pointing?
Is it right that I turn around after I've executed the kick, when I'm in the streamline position?

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2. the start: what are the major phases of the start?

Stand with your toes just over the edge of the block. Squat down and grab the edges of the block
just outside your feet (or just inside, your preference). Explosively leap straight out in a
horizontal streamline extension and pike very slightly to enter the water with the arms in the
streamline position above the head. Then do the breakout as described above.

How does it look like with the Ready-Steady-Go rhythm?

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I've enough spare time and hopefully enough will power, to do everything

i

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need to get faster then 1:50. I would appreciate any suggestions of how

to

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become a faster swimmer.

Great starts and turns will save you about 3-4 seconds on a 100. You can probably achieve the
remaining 7 seconds you need by increasing your

stroke

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rate and eliminating any gliding phase. Without seeing your stroke, it's

hard to

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give technique advice. Have a look at the breaststroke videos at this site

and

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try to emulate what the elites are doing:

yeah, thanks these ones are really helpfull.

Has anybody some suggestions for good training schedule?

thanks in advance

Jan

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buehlerbluemarlins.netbuehlerbluemarlins.netOpen ↗ Videos Section

Don

Jan Buchwald said:

I've to swim 100m breaststroke in 1:50, that's the limit for . Today's best attempt was something
around 2:00.

Which is the best description of your 2 minute swim?

A) maintained a steady pace and sprinted at the end,
B) maintain a steady pace the whole way,
C) got slower as you went,
D) got slower as you went and very sloppy at the end?

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Jan Buchwald said:

I've to swim 100m breaststroke in 1:50, that's the limit for . Today's best attempt was something
around 2:00.

Which is the best description of your 2 minute swim?

A) maintained a steady pace and sprinted at the end,
B) maintain a steady pace the whole way,
C) got slower as you went,
D) got slower as you went and very sloppy at the end?

Hi Donal,

Answer A would be best, heh ?

well I used to know from my running that it's best to start bit slower and try to get faster and
faster during the race. I've tried to accomplish this in the water too, but because it was my first
day, I've got almost no clue, what's fast and what's slow for me. I think that I've starter to slow,
on the 1st two 25m, the third was faster and the last 25m was very exhausting, I'm not sure if the
4th lane was the fastest one, In my opinion, I should make the 1st two lanes a bit faster and the
3rd a bit slower, and give my best in the 4th? What you think?

Anyway, it think it's gonna be pretty hard to compare lane-times because of the start from the
starting-block?!

let's do the math, 4 x 25 in 1:50 = 27,5sec /25m

okay with an avarage of 27,5 sec per lane, let's say the last is a bit faster and the first one a
bit easier (because of the jump off the starting-block)

1. 28
2. 28
3. 27
4. 26

=1:49 sec? sounds like a good plan?

Jan

Jan Buchwald said:

I think that I've starter to slow, on the 1st two 25m, the third was faster and the last 25m was
very exhausting, I'm not sure if the 4th lane was the fastest one, In my opinion, I should make the
1st two lanes a bit faster and the 3rd a bit slower, and give my best in the 4th? What you think?

I'd expect the first and the last to be fastest. Since your opponent is the clock, I'd go for a
steady pace, with a bit of a sprint at the end.

Sloppy breaststroke can be very slow, so I'd avoid swimming that last length exhausted. Find a pace
where you can stay smooth the whole time.

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Anyway, it think it's gonna be pretty hard to compare lane-times because of the start from the
starting-block?!

If there is a pace clock, you should be able to grab a look on the turns. Or you could look at your
own chronometer.

And work those underwater pulls.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

Hi,

i've checked many videos out, but I coudn't find a single one with a breaststroke turn. If you know
one, please post the link, thanks.

Jan

wa.swimming.org.austroke.aspOpen ↗

The file, Breast-MikeBarrowman-ThePerfectRace.wmv shows the start, at least three closeups of the
turns and good technique all around.

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Donald Graft said:

You have to touch with *both hands* at the same time and same level.

Haven't had to be at the same level for some years under FINA rules.

Interesting. We just had an age grouper DQ'ed for not the same level.

Don

"Jan Buchwald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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do I've to touch with the whole hand or just the fingers?

Any touch of the hand to the wall is legal. It could be one finger but I wouldn't recommend it. :-)

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When I touch the wall, let's say at the surface, where do I put my feet? right under the surface?
In which direction are the toes pointing?

You can turn either way; I turn to the left so I'll describe it that way. After the two hands touch,
the momentum of the lower body causes it to continue toward the wall. Pull yours knees up and place
the feet against the wall with the toes pointed to the left. Also, after the touch, the left hand
drops underwater to the streamline position and the right arm recovers over water to join the left
hand as the body drops into the water to push off underwater in a streamline position. A technique
finesse is to forcibly push off the wall with the right arm to rotate the torso and get the feet to
the wall faster, as well as to augment the momentum off the wall.

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Is it right that I turn around after I've executed the kick, when I'm in the streamline position?

Huh?

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How does it look like with the Ready-Steady-Go rhythm?

Huh?

Don

I'm guessing as Jan simply has to complete 100m BS in 2:00 as an entrance
qualification, he won't have turn judges watching to make sure his hands are
touching simultaeneously... 🙂

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Donald Graft said:

You have to touch with *both hands* at the same time and same level.

Haven't had to be at the same level for some years under FINA rules.

Interesting. We just had an age grouper DQ'ed for not the same level.

Don

Donald Graft said:

Interesting. We just had an age grouper DQ'ed for not the same level.

US YMCA rules are slightly different than FINA rules.

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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:30:12 +0100, "Jan Buchwald" <[email hidden]>

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I'm not sure about the rules...

1. do I've to touch the wall with my hand when I do the turn, or is it enough to touch it with
my feet?

You need to touch the wall with both hands at the same time