brakes

Or be like the Beeeaaauuutttiifffuullll On-One ilPompino singlespee
i saw last night whilst catching the tram home (no ride yesterda
-boo-hoo)

"Awesome ride, man

should have seen the grin on his face..

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"flyingdutch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Or be like the Beeeaaauuutttiifffuullll On-One ilPompino singlespeed
i saw last night whilst catching the tram home (no ride yesterday
-boo-hoo).

"Awesome ride, man"

should have seen the grin on his face...

Did he/it look like this?
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6532.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6533.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6535.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6536.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/115_1509.html

hippy

[QUOTE
Did he/it look like this? http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6532.htmlhttp://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6532.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6533.htmlhttp://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6533.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6535.htmlhttp://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6535.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6536.htmlhttp://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/165_6536.html
http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/115_1509.htmlhttp://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/HDATO/slides/115_1509.html

hipp

Nah, bit younger. much fitter with 23c tyres not like his cyclocross
style setu

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:59:21 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden]

(NickZX6R) said:

I found quite a difference when I changed from single-pivot to dual-pivot
calipers. Maybe it's just a case of keeping them maintained and adjusted
properly?

Dual pivot calipers? Is that like cantiliver, or V-brakes?

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:48:37 GMT, "Rocket Man" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Oh Peter,

Don't bother about buying and using expensive brakes.

Just take them off.

There....... see. No more worries about brakes slowing you down or silly
discussions about which type is best.

There problem solved. Enjoy your free wheel riding.

But but but - I LIKE stopping - especially at the end of a long downhill
straight that terminates at a busy T-intersection.

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Cheers

PeterC

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"Peter Cremasco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I found quite a difference when I changed from single-pivot to dual-pivot
calipers. Maybe it's just a case of keeping them maintained and adjusted
properly?

Dual pivot calipers? Is that like cantiliver, or V-brakes?

I don't think either, they are a side-pull design, whereas
V brakes ARE a form of cantilever::
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_d.html#dualpivot

Dual-pivots are just a design variation from the 'normal'
single pivot brakes most people's "10 speeds" have.
They are a more powerful design.

hth
hippy

Peter Cremasco said:

A question concerning brakes - particularly the two most common types:
the caliper brakes (anchored at one point on the fork head) and the
linear pull (anchored at two points on the fork leg).
I've ridden both kinds, and find that the linear pull is capable of
locking up the wheels with minimum effort. The caliper brakes need to be
squeezed very hard, and don't even appear to come close to locking up
the wheel.
I've mostly seen caliper brakes on roadies (or old style MTB), and the
linear pull on MTB or hybrids. I've heard that the brakes on road bikes
are much better, but be buggered if I can see how. Surely not every
roadie I've ridden has been set up wrong, as far as brakes go?
Can someone explain this to me? Is there another type of brake set up
that looks like the caliper and is much much better?
Cheers,
PeterC
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Cheers
PeterC
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[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

Hi Peter:

As far as the mechanics of different brake types go, by now, you hav
found a wealth in this thread

However, if you are looking to improve your braking power, you may hav
different options depending on your bike. Remember that both Cantileve
and V's need brased on pivot/installation points on the fork/seat stays
If you have a road style bike, you would most likely miss out on thes
points. If you have calliper style brakes, the best combination would b
a dual-pivot (the modern style) plus after market pads (talking abou
Shimano pads, of course)

If you have single-pivot, upgrade to Sora or Tiagra callipers. The
replace the pads with Kool Stop pads. I couldn't find them in Canberra
and bought their equivalent Fabrix pads. You will be amazed with th
improvement. Cecil Walker sells Tiagra callipers for $88. Fabrix pad
should not cost more than $30-40 for two pairs. Actually, why no
changing just the pads first and see if that makes enough improvement

Cheers, Amir

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campag brakes are renowned for being better than shimanos ( probably th
only true admission of imbalance in the entire campy v ShimaNO debate

havent tried a wide range of pads so cant comment on that aspec

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flyingdutch said:

campag brakes are renowned for being better than shimanos ( probably the
only true admission of imbalance in the entire campy v ShimaNO debate )
havent tried a wide range of pads so cant comment on that aspect

G'day

just so that the Campy v shimano debate doesn't ever get resolved (LOL
(I think we've got more chance of the Arabs & the Isreali's sorting ou
their differences)........The new DA brakes are superior to anythin
I've ever ridden (roadies)......including the spaghetti sauce mob
LOL......that should get the thread pumpin'!

cheers

Hitch

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Hitchy said:

G'day,
just so that the Campy v shimano debate doesn't ever get resolved (LOL)
(I think we've got more chance of the Arabs & the Isreali's sorting out
their differences)........The new DA brakes are superior to anything
I've ever ridden (roadies)......including the spaghetti sauce mob!
LOL......that should get the thread pumpin'!,
cheers,
Hitchy

When I was in the market to get better braking power out of my existin
brakes, I heard a similar comment that the only acceptable Shimano pad
were DAs (9 speed then). They weren't cheap, so I tried aftermarket. No
having used DA, I cannot comment, but I can swear by the Fabrix. The
are smooth, quiet and really effective. Now locking up is as easy a
V's! More important is the fact that they won't pick as much grit, s
over the past 3000 km on both bikes, the rim surface looks really nic
(compared to what Shimano pads did to my other Mavic rims)

Now that we are on this note, all these brakes are nothing compared t
hydraulic discs (I know, I know, that's not roadie stuff) ;

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:30:15 GMT, amirm <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

As far as the mechanics of different brake types go, by now, you have
found a wealth in this thread.

You're right - I've archived many of the replies. I hesitated to ask the
question originally, because I thought it was probably obvious to anyone
- now I'm very glad I asked.

Thank you all.

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Cheers

PeterC

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flyingdutch said:

Or be like the Beeeaaauuutttiifffuullll On-One ilPompino singlespeed
i saw last night whilst catching the tram home (no ride yesterday
-boo-hoo).

"Awesome ride, man"

There's a courier that gets around sydney on what looks like
a full-disc singlespeed roadie. I've only ever seen him
fly by so never really had time to properly checkout the bike.
At first I thought I was seeing things, but then I saw him
again a few weeks later.

-kt

[QUOTEThere's a courier that gets around sydney on what looks like a full-
disc singlespeed roadie. I've only ever seen him fly by so never really
had time to properly checkout the bike. At first I thought I was seeing
things, but then I saw him again a few weeks later.

-kt

was thinking about discs on raod/tourers last night. Was flicking thru a
swiss mag my father-inl-aw had brought back. The range was absolutely
staggering. Buyers guide full of approx 1500 different bikes and that
didnt include mtbs :eek:

They were with campag ergos so I assume they were cable-actuated. Hope
Minis apaprently (from what my frail german ability could gleen)

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