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  1. Yestarday I was climbing one of my favourites hills, when it
    began snowing quite heavily. I had to do the last km with
    the bike over the shoulders because there was too much snow
    on the road to keep pedaling. Everything fine (if you can
    call 'fine' snowing in may) until I began the downhill. In
    fact the first km with the road covered of snow is not so
    steep, so I stayed on the bike going really slow and
    carefully, you can imagine I braked a lot. After a minute or
    so I noticed the brake pads were literally pulverizing and
    also melting (front and rear, same thing), leaving a lot of
    black powder/pieces/drops everywhere on the
    hubs/spokes/chain etc. It remained just a little bit of gum,
    enough to ride home being able to stop at lights. I never
    saw something like that, and I rode several times with snow
    and rain, with those same pads. The pads are Dura-Ace 7700
    and they have some 6 months of use (the rims are OpenPro).

    ...is that normal?

    Thanks, Francesco

  2. frenkatfrenk-do-t_ c0m-p said:

    It remained just a little bit of gum, enough to ride home
    being able to stop at lights. I never saw something like
    that, and I rode several times with snow and rain, with
    those same pads.

    ...is that normal? Thanks, Francesco

    I rode downhill in snow only once and I do not remember
    anything like that. On the other hand, riding in rainy
    conditions or, worse, on a muddy road can wear out pads
    in no time.

    Sergio Pisa

  3. frenkatfrenk-do-t_ c0m-p said:

    Yestarday I was climbing one of my favourites hills, when
    it began snowing quite heavily. I had to do the last km
    with the bike over the shoulders because there was too
    much snow on the road to keep pedaling. Everything fine
    (if you can call 'fine' snowing in may) until I began the
    downhill. In fact the first km with the road covered of
    snow is not so steep, so I stayed on the bike going really
    slow and carefully, you can imagine I braked a lot. After
    a minute or so I noticed the brake pads were literally
    pulverizing and also melting (front and rear, same thing),
    leaving a lot of black powder/pieces/drops everywhere on
    the hubs/spokes/chain etc. It remained just a little bit
    of gum, enough to ride home being able to stop at lights.
    I never saw something like that, and I rode several times
    with snow and rain, with those same pads. The pads are Dura-
    Ace 7700 and they have some 6 months of use (the rims are
    OpenPro).

    ...is that normal?

    I've gone halfway through a set of 105 brake pads in a
    wet/gritty 60 mile ride. The same pads had been on for 18
    months with no discernible wear.

  4. Francesco said:

    In fact the first km with the road covered of snow is not
    so steep, so I stayed on the bike going really slow and
    carefully, you can imagine I braked a lot. After a minute
    or so I noticed the brake pads were literally pulverizing
    and also melting

    Going slowly down a hill is the worst case for braking,
    since it heats the pads the most. The grit picked up from
    the snowy road was the finisher.

    Quoted message said:

    The pads are Dura-Ace 7700 and they have some 6
    months of use

    Replace those pads with KoolStop salmon pads. They
    don't disintegrate in extreme conditions, and they're
    kinder to rims:

    koolstop.combrakes
    --
    terry morse Palo Alto, CA bike.terrymorse.combike.terrymorse.com

  5. frenkatfrenk-do-t_ c0m-p said:

    Yestarday I was climbing one of my favourites hills, when
    it began snowing quite heavily. I had to do the last km
    with the bike over the shoulders because there was too
    much snow on the road to keep pedaling. Everything fine
    (if you can call 'fine' snowing in may) until I began the
    downhill. In fact the first km with the road covered of
    snow is not so steep, so I stayed on the bike going really
    slow and carefully, you can imagine I braked a lot. After
    a minute or so I noticed the brake pads were literally
    pulverizing and also melting (front and rear, same thing),
    leaving a lot of black powder/pieces/drops everywhere on
    the hubs/spokes/chain etc. It remained just a little bit
    of gum, enough to ride home being able to stop at lights.
    I never saw something like that, and I rode several times
    with snow and rain, with those same pads. The pads are Dura-
    Ace 7700 and they have some 6 months of use (the rims are
    OpenPro).

    ...is that normal?

    Yep. You're watching the accumulated oxides wash out from
    the scratches of your rim and out of the slits in the brake
    blocks. At the start of a rain, you'll see grey stripes down
    your fork from thet.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
    April, 1971

  6. Captain's log. On StarDate Sat, 08 May 2004 09:39:41 -0700 received comm from
    Terry Morse <[email hidden]> on channel rec.bicycles.tech:

    : > The pads are Dura-Ace 7700 and they have some 6 months
    : > of use
    :
    : Replace those pads with KoolStop salmon pads. They don't
    : disintegrate in extreme conditions, and they're kinder
    : to rims:
    :
    : koolstop.combrakes

    DI you know if they fit Ultegra (600) brakes as well? Can
    you fit Koolstop dual compound pads into them?

    Best regards,

    martin törnsten

    --
    82.182.73.12682.182.73.126

  7. Quoted message said:

    DI you know if they fit Ultegra (600) brakes as well? Can
    you fit Koolstop


    dual

    Quoted message said:

    compound pads into them?

    Yes, they'll fit any of the Ultegra holders that take
    replaceable pads (which means anything from the start of
    the 9-speed group). If you go to the Koolstop web page at
    koolstop.combrakes, you won't find any dual-
    compound replacement pads for road bikes... yet. It does
    show an unusual 3-piece pad that's due to come out sometime
    in the future but, frankly, I don't see the need. I ride
    rain or shine, and have been very impressed with the
    Koolstop pad's wear characteristics in the rain (compared
    to Shimano).

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

    "Martin Törnsten" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Captain's log. On StarDate Sat, 08 May 2004 09:39:41 -0700
    received comm


    from

    Quoted message said:

    Terry Morse <[email hidden]> on channel
    rec.bicycles.tech:

    : > The pads are Dura-Ace 7700 and they have some 6 months
    : > of use
    :
    : Replace those pads with KoolStop salmon pads. They don't
    : disintegrate in extreme conditions, and they're kinder
    : to rims:
    :
    : koolstop.combrakes

    DI you know if they fit Ultegra (600) brakes as well? Can
    you fit Koolstop


    dual

    Quoted message said:

    compound pads into them?

    Best regards,

    martin törnsten

    --
    82.182.73.12682.182.73.126

  8. frenkatfrenk-do-t_ c0m-p <"frenkatfrenk-do-t_ c0m-p"@rse-this-if-
    you.can> wrote: [Brake pads disintegrating]

    Quoted message said:

    I never saw something like that, and I rode several times
    with snow and rain, with those same pads. The pads are Dura-
    Ace 7700 and they have some 6 months of use (the rims are
    OpenPro).

    Brake pads are Shimano's Achilles Heel - by my reckoning
    the most useless product they sell. Replace 'em with Kool
    Stop Salmons.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl?

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