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  1. I purchased a "mountain" style bike back in November, and athough I rode
    most of the winter but not all, my brakes pads needed to be replaced. I live
    in Pittsburgh which is hilly, and I go up and down about six somewhat steep
    hills on my twenty mile ride, I have had other bikes of similar design, and
    the brakes lasted at least 18 months. I notice these brakes are wider than
    my others, but the pad is not as thick. I guess it gives me better braking,
    but less wear. Are original equipment pads of less quality than replacement
    pads? Would it be alright ro replace them with a thicker but narrower pad?

    Thanks

    Tom

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I purchased a "mountain" style bike back in November, and athough I rode
    most of the winter but not all, my brakes pads needed to be replaced. I live
    in Pittsburgh which is hilly, and I go up and down about six somewhat steep
    hills on my twenty mile ride, I have had other bikes of similar design, and
    the brakes lasted at least 18 months. I notice these brakes are wider than
    my others, but the pad is not as thick. I guess it gives me better braking,
    but less wear. Are original equipment pads of less quality than replacement
    pads? Would it be alright ro replace them with a thicker but narrower pad?

    Were your riding conditions wetter with the new pads than with the old?
    Wet riding conditions eats through pads very, very quickly.
    ---------------------
    Alex

  3. "Alex Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,


    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    says...

    Quoted message said:

    I purchased a "mountain" style bike back in November, and athough I rode
    most of the winter but not all, my brakes pads needed to be replaced. I


    live

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in Pittsburgh which is hilly, and I go up and down about six somewhat steep
    hills on my twenty mile ride, I have had other bikes of similar design, and
    the brakes lasted at least 18 months. I notice these brakes are wider than
    my others, but the pad is not as thick. I guess it gives me better braking,
    but less wear. Are original equipment pads of less quality than replacement
    pads? Would it be alright ro replace them with a thicker but narrower pad?

    Were your riding conditions wetter with the new pads than with the old?
    Wet riding conditions eats through pads very, very quickly.

    Worse, they wear through rims. Soft pads also pick up road grit in wet
    weather, accelerating rim wear. Check out KoolStop salmon colored pads. They
    use a hard compound that gives excellent braking, is long wearing, and doesn't
    pick up grit. Harris Cyclery has them.

  4. Peter Cole said:

    Check out KoolStop salmon colored pads. They
    use a hard compound that gives excellent braking, is long wearing, and doesn't
    pick up grit. Harris Cyclery has them.

    On the down side, they are more prone to brake squeal. Others have made
    the same comment so I know my experience isn't unique.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Cole said:

    Check out KoolStop salmon colored pads. They
    use a hard compound that gives excellent braking, is long wearing, and


    doesn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pick up grit. Harris Cyclery has them.

    On the down side, they are more prone to brake squeal. Others have made
    the same comment so I know my experience isn't unique.

    That's not a bug, it's a feature. It warns others that you are slowing down
    so that they don't run into you. 🙂
    -------------
    Alex

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Alex Rodriguez

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On the down side, they are more prone to brake squeal. Others have made
    the same comment so I know my experience isn't unique.

    That's not a bug, it's a feature. It warns others that you are slowing down
    so that they don't run into you. 🙂

    A few things no one else has asked the OP. This appears to be winter riding so
    has there been salt spread on the streets? During this bad weather riding has
    the OP been wiping down his rims and cleaning his pads at least in the evening?
    Wouldn't hurt to do a quick wipe when arriving. I'm wondering how his rims look
    after all of this wear on one set of pads. Pads are cheaper than rims. Another
    thought. He has checked to make sure they were set up correctly and were not
    been rubbing on the outset, that would have given them a good grinding to start
    out. I don't recall if this was a LBS set up bike or not. As for brake squeal,
    both of my MTBs squeak, no matter what pads I've used, but my road bike usually
    doesn't. Even with the squeak though the pads on the oldest MTB have lasted
    12,000 miles.

  7. dvt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter Cole said:

    Check out KoolStop salmon colored pads. They
    use a hard compound that gives excellent braking, is long wearing, and doesn't
    pick up grit. Harris Cyclery has them.

    On the down side, they are more prone to brake squeal. Others have made
    the same comment so I know my experience isn't unique.

    Hi, maybe more prone, but not guarranteed. When I put the first set on
    my old road bike with steel wheels, they really squealled. I picked up
    a used set of wheels with Mavic MA 40 rims, no squeal.
    I recently put a set on my LeMond Tourmalet, it uses the Shimano type
    refills, and those are silent too. The wheels are Matrix Auroras. I do
    like their stopping abilities, I haven't got enough miles on them, to
    comment on wear.
    Life is Good!
    Jeff

  8. dvt said:


    Peter Cole said:

    Check out KoolStop salmon colored pads. They
    use a hard compound that gives excellent braking, is long wearing, and doesn't
    pick up grit. Harris Cyclery has them.

    On the down side, they are more prone to brake squeal. Others have made
    the same comment so I know my experience isn't unique.

    In my experience, when Kool-Stop Salmon pads squeal stubbornly and
    seemingly can't be adjusted to not do so, it's the brakes that are at
    fault. Excessive play on mounting studs or too much flex anywhere can
    cause intractable squealing with good pads. Pads with lower
    coefficient of friction (that is to say, lousy ones) often don't
    expose the problems with crappy brakes by making noise.

    Chalo Colina

  9. i had a very similar experience that you described

    one part of my problem was that one pad was usually in contact with the rim
    very lightly, which i figured wouldn't make a big deal, but it turned out
    that it did

    "mary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I purchased a "mountain" style bike back in November, and athough I rode
    most of the winter but not all, my brakes pads needed to be replaced. I


    live

    Quoted message said:

    in Pittsburgh which is hilly, and I go up and down about six somewhat


    steep

    Quoted message said:

    hills on my twenty mile ride, I have had other bikes of similar design,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    the brakes lasted at least 18 months. I notice these brakes are wider than
    my others, but the pad is not as thick. I guess it gives me better


    braking,

    Quoted message said:

    but less wear. Are original equipment pads of less quality than


    replacement

    Quoted message said:

    pads? Would it be alright ro replace them with a thicker but narrower pad?

    Thanks

    Tom

  10. Chalo said:

    In my experience, when Kool-Stop Salmon pads squeal stubbornly and
    seemingly can't be adjusted to not do so, it's the brakes that are at
    fault.

    All brake pads squeal at some point, but then they wear in again and the
    squealing stops. I haven't found Kool-Stops to squeal more than any other.

    Quoted message said:

    Excessive play on mounting studs or too much flex anywhere can
    cause intractable squealing with good pads.

    This is true, especially with flex.

    Quoted message said:

    Pads with lower
    coefficient of friction (that is to say, lousy ones) often don't
    expose the problems with crappy brakes by making noise.

    Could be.

    Matt O.

  11. "Matt O'Toole" <[email hidden]> wrote;

    Quoted message said:

    All brake pads squeal at some point, but then they wear in again and the
    squealing stops. I haven't found Kool-Stops to squeal more than any other.

    I find that in the most intransigent squealy-brake cases, what needs
    to "wear in" is the rim anodizing. Once it's gone, the noise usually
    is too.

    Chalo Colina

  12. I use plain rubber some times sold under the invicta brand name they
    are two dollars and are much kinder to your rims I ride 12 miles every
    day and carry a 280 pound total load it rains here 7 months out of the
    year. With this setup I can get a year out of a front rim using mostly
    front braking. The worst brake shoes are the cheap plastic ones made
    by shimano one reason shimano is so hated by some.

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