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  1. Maybe there is good reason for one. But why a brake on a 20"?
    Forgive me if this is a dumb question as I'm still kinda new to the
    unicycle scene.

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  2. Not really that important, but useful for riding down steep
    walls/railings to do it smoothly/in control. Generally can be useful
    when riding skinny's. But definately not needed, and never seen one
    rider with them on a trials uni.
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  3. I don't know about you but I would be a much better rider if I had
    enough control to use a brake while riding steep skinnies.

    A brake on a trials uni isn't really a great idea, since it really just
    turns into extra weight to haul during hops, but then again if you ride
    a 20" for muni, it could be useful.

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  4. ...and using a brake while hopping just doesn't work (for most of us
    anyway). You do some many more subtle forwards/backwards corrections
    than you might think.

    Andrew

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  5. I have never seen anyone use a brake on a trials uni. It could be handy
    for some speicalized situations. For example if you were hopping up a
    steep narrow ramp with the wheel inline with the ramp (not perpendicular
    to the ramp) you could lock the wheel with the brake to make that kind
    of a move possible. The other situation where it might be useful would
    be riding down a steep narrow skinny. Mostly there are only a few
    special situations where a brake would be useful and many situations
    where the brake would be just getting in the way. The other problem is
    that you are guaranteed to break the brake lever a few times when the
    uni drops on something after a UPD.

    The KH Pro trials uni has Magura brake mounts and I think the 2005 Qu-ax
    trails uni has Magura brake mounts. Those are the only trials unis I'm
    aware of that have brake mounts.

    It's neat that they have the brake mounts because that means that
    someone may experiment with doing trials moves that require the use of
    the brake. It's an option for experimentation. But for practical
    purposes I don't see a brake being useful on a trials uni.

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  6. A brake could be useful in many applications in trials where it is
    difficult to get adequate leverage on the wheel. The problem is it is
    impossible to use a brake in the seat in front hopping position.

    I could see a rider like Andrew getting used to a brake and finding it
    useful for things like precision hops, steep up and downhills and (I
    think) much more.

    Trials bikers use their rear brake in every single move. The only reason
    we don't is because we can apply some stopping power to the wheel. You
    could get a lot more by using a brake though.

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  7. Ill bet it would be really helpful in natrual trials.

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  8. although if you do anything with a brake, you have that much less handle
    grabbing ability

    It would be handy for a Jr Muni'r who can't fit a 24" unicycle though

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  9. TheObieOne3226 said:

    *Trials bikers use their rear brake in every single move. The only
    reason we don't is because we can apply some stopping power to the
    wheel. You could get a lot more by using a brake though. *


    Trials bikers also kick the pedals and move the wheel slightly forward
    on most of their hops. I think the only application of a brake on a
    unicycle when hopping would be when doing gaps to really thin surfaces.
    Then I guess you could apply the brake just as you land to stop the
    wheel slipping out, but you'd still have to release it before hopping
    off. Also, you wouldn't be able to keep the wheel under your body
    nearly as easily until you released the brake.

    And for hopping up really steep surfaces, you'd still need to release
    the brake before hopping each time to kick the pedals and wheel
    forwards, and if the surface is steep enough to necessitate a brake you
    probably wouldn't be able to do that anyway.

    I still think trials riding on a unicycle really requires all those
    subtle little corrections that wouldn't be possible with a brake.

    Andrew

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  10. there's a summit on ebay right now with brakes.

    http://tinyurl.com/5boxm

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  11. here you got a 20" with brake

    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=461

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  12. I think it might be useful in some street tricks. Maybe if you are doing
    something like a no footer down stairs or a drop the brake could help
    keep the wheel from spinning so its easier to land back on the pedals.
    It would be hard because if you have horizantal momentum, you would need
    to release the brake before you land it. I have never done anything like
    that so im not sure i know what im talking about😄

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  13. Just aquired last evening.'finally a trials uni'
    (http://tinyurl.com/3t8ly)
    Can't wait for it to arrive. I have some great pictures of this baby
    including detailed pics of the custom brake system, but i don't know how
    to show or link them. I don't seem to be able (or am missing something)
    to use the web space. I have never ridden a 20" and am looking forward
    to lot's of new fun. It's set up with a hand held brake lever. Should
    be interesting to experiment with. I'll have it at the Richmond ride so
    some of you more experienced riders can try it out in trials
    applications.

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  14. Hope this pic works

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  15. Check out this custom brake setup

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  16. That's a pretty crappy custom brake setup

    How will you ever reach the lever?

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  17. you hold the handle with the brake in one hand........

    that cable might get in the way.
    espescillay if you fall.

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