Boyer escapes hammer, .....for now.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Claudius Vitalis said:

Boyer recently pleaded guilty to seven counts of child molestation and three
counts of genital penetration involving a young girl. Boyer was sentenced to
one year in jail in a Monterey County, California, facility. Upon release,
Boyer will serve a five-year probation. If he violates this probation, he
will serve 20 years. The judge suspended the 20-year sentence, believing
Boyer was a good candidate for rehabilitation. He must also register as a
sex offender.
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Do they have a training bike in jail?

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding again
( if it is the same person)

Cantua Creek RR from 2/21/05
Master 35+ 1/2/3_____22 riders
Race# Rider        Team     Hometown
1  374   Michael Hutchinson    Team Spine       Napa
2  376   Michael Hernandez     TEAM SPINE      RENO
3  365  Jonathan Boyer        Unattached      MARINA
4  366  Billy Clark        Morgan Stanley   LIVERMORE
5  362  Clint Gaver        Team Spine     LOS GATOS
6  367  Stephen Gregorios      Morgan Stanley  TRACY

The full results are at http://www.velopromo.com/cant-rl05.htm

Quoted message said:

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding again
( if it is the same person)

Somebody is recycling very old news.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Casey Kerrigan said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Claudius Vitalis said:

Boyer recently pleaded guilty to seven counts of child molestation

and three

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

counts of genital penetration involving a young girl. Boyer was

sentenced to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

one year in jail in a Monterey County, California, facility. Upon

release,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Boyer will serve a five-year probation. If he violates this

probation, he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will serve 20 years. The judge suspended the 20-year sentence,

believing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Boyer was a good candidate for rehabilitation. He must also

register as a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sex offender.
----------------------

Do they have a training bike in jail?

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding

again

Quoted message said:

( if it is the same person)

Cantua Creek RR from 2/21/05
Master 35+ 1/2/3_____22 riders
Race# Rider Team

Hometown

Quoted message said:

1 374 Michael Hutchinson Team Spine Napa
2 376 Michael Hernandez TEAM SPINE RENO
3 365 Jonathan Boyer Unattached MARINA
4 366 Billy Clark Morgan Stanley

LIVERMORE

Quoted message said:

5 362 Clint Gaver Team Spine LOS

GATOS

Quoted message said:

6 367 Stephen Gregorios Morgan Stanley TRACY

The full results are at http://www.velopromo.com/cant-rl05.htm

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/2004/04/18/sports/8460825.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Quoted:
Boyer understands the skepticism. He accepts the doubts. He does not go
so far as to say he is innocent of the charges. But has contended from
the beginning that things are not as ugly as they appear.

"There are things that happened that I don't feel good about," he said.
"I wish I could say more. The situation is so much different that it is
perceived by the public. To begin to try to explain would be too
difficult."

What a surprise that some judge who doesn't have to take any
responsibility when this scumbag abuses another kid set his ass loose,
even though he really doesn't seem to think he did anything too bad.
This POS should've had his sack ripped off, after the appeal failed,
right in the courtroom then been shot in the head with a .45 on the
spot. These judges and shrinks that keep turning these predators loose
should be held civilly accountable for the damage they cause too.
Proudly libertarian fascist
Bill C

Casey Kerrigan said:

Cantua Creek RR from 2/21/05
Master 35+ 1/2/3_____22 riders
Race# Rider        Team     Hometown
1  374   Michael Hutchinson    Team Spine       Napa
2  376   Michael Hernandez     TEAM SPINE      RENO
3  365  Jonathan Boyer        Unattached      MARINA
4  366  Billy Clark        Morgan Stanley   LIVERMORE
5  362  Clint Gaver        Team Spine     LOS GATOS
6  367  Stephen Gregorios      Morgan Stanley  TRACY

Man, speaking as the manager of a race-related website, I wish riders
would but their info in in normal mixed case, assuming they register
online. This all caps stuff is lame.

JT

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While Boyer may not be "the all american boy" like the darling
Hamilton. Boyer was a great cyclist! He was a pioneer, He opened a
closed door for the likes of Lemond & Armstrong.
On one occasion Boyer was leading & poised to win but was led off
course to prevent an american from winning. That was cycling then in
europe.

Anyway the story is she looked 18. & at least it wasn't a boy at any
age. Those are the real freeks.

Claudius Vitalis said:

Boyer recently pleaded guilty to seven counts of child molestation

and three

Quoted message said:

counts of genital penetration involving a young girl. Boyer was

sentenced to

Quoted message said:

one year in jail in a Monterey County, California, facility. Upon

release,

Quoted message said:

Boyer will serve a five-year probation. If he violates this

probation, he

Quoted message said:

will serve 20 years. The judge suspended the 20-year sentence,

believing

Quoted message said:

Boyer was a good candidate for rehabilitation. He must also register

as a

Quoted message said:

sex offender.
----------------------

Do they have a training bike in jail?

He's out bro. Didn't even go upstate. Just county jail, so he's lucky.
Been out for six months. He's actually been hitting up a few pro teams
to get in on the action from what I hear - not riding, but management I
think. Apparently no takers so far.

Pretty weak when he says he pleaded guilty to "spare the witness" -
Unless it's true. But that means dude still has an appetite for the
three-pyoob pie and doesn't want to wreck his chances with her.

I say tell us what really happened or STFU about it.

Maybe for his "rehab" he can coach a girls junior squad.
-DA74

Bill C said:

Casey Kerrigan said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Claudius Vitalis said:

Boyer recently pleaded guilty to seven counts of child molestation

and three

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

counts of genital penetration involving a young girl. Boyer was

sentenced to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

one year in jail in a Monterey County, California, facility. Upon

release,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Boyer will serve a five-year probation. If he violates this

probation, he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will serve 20 years. The judge suspended the 20-year sentence,

believing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Boyer was a good candidate for rehabilitation. He must also

register as a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sex offender.
----------------------

Do they have a training bike in jail?

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding

again

Quoted message said:

( if it is the same person)

Cantua Creek RR from 2/21/05
Master 35+ 1/2/3_____22 riders
Race# Rider Team

Hometown

Quoted message said:

1 374 Michael Hutchinson Team Spine Napa
2 376 Michael Hernandez TEAM SPINE RENO
3 365 Jonathan Boyer Unattached MARINA
4 366 Billy Clark Morgan Stanley

LIVERMORE

Quoted message said:

5 362 Clint Gaver Team Spine LOS

GATOS

Quoted message said:

6 367 Stephen Gregorios Morgan Stanley TRACY

The full results are at http://www.velopromo.com/cant-rl05.htm

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/2004/04/18/sports/8460825.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Quoted:
Boyer understands the skepticism. He accepts the doubts. He does not go
so far as to say he is innocent of the charges. But has contended from
the beginning that things are not as ugly as they appear.

"There are things that happened that I don't feel good about," he said.
"I wish I could say more. The situation is so much different that it is
perceived by the public. To begin to try to explain would be too
difficult."

What a surprise that some judge who doesn't have to take any
responsibility when this scumbag abuses another kid set his ass loose,
even though he really doesn't seem to think he did anything too bad.
This POS should've had his sack ripped off, after the appeal failed,
right in the courtroom then been shot in the head with a .45 on the
spot. These judges and shrinks that keep turning these predators loose
should be held civilly accountable for the damage they cause too.
Proudly libertarian fascist
Bill C

The concept of libertarian fascism is interesting, to say the least. And
you said KERRY was a flip flopper.

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding again
( if it is the same person)

Somebody is recycling very old news.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

He better stay out of jail too, or he'll be trying to escape hummers rather
than hammers.

Curtis L. Russell said:

Maybe not 11, but I clearly remember every guy that was hanging around
the Michigan State University tennis courts hitting on two girls that
we thought were coeds. Their mother, who looked like a slightly older
sister, informed us when she showed up that they were 13 and 15.

When I was 15 I figured out that if I went into a bar and asked
for a beer, and didn't look nervous, the bartender would get
me a beer.

I don't believe that would have worked at 11. I must confess that
I didn't run the experiment.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

"Philip W. Moore, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

According to the folowing race results it looks like he is riding again
( if it is the same person)

Somebody is recycling very old news.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

He better stay out of jail too, or he'll be trying to escape hummers
rather
than hammers.

If MJ is convicted, do you think they'll give him a chance to moonwalk
before they fill up his dance card?

Bob Schwartz said:

When I was 15 I figured out that if I went into a bar and asked
for a beer, and didn't look nervous, the bartender would get
me a beer.

This would probably have worked unless the bartender asked "What kind of
beer?"

Stewart Fleming said:

Bob Schwartz wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

When I was 15 I figured out that if I went into a bar and asked
for a beer, and didn't look nervous, the bartender would get
me a beer.

Quoted message said:

This would probably have worked unless the bartender asked "What kind of
beer?"

In the US all beer is the same. So that wasn't an issue.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

On Wed, 04 May 2005 17:50:51 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

When I was 15 I figured out that if I went into a bar and asked
for a beer, and didn't look nervous, the bartender would get
me a beer.

I don't believe that would have worked at 11. I must confess that
I didn't run the experiment.

The age was 21 in Michigan when I attended MSU. I stopped in and
bought a diet coke on the way to work every wiork day for a few weeks.
When I finally did buy a six pack, they barely noticed.

OTOH, I bought a six pack of Strohs. While it certainly matched up
well with the Bali Hai I drank as wine, it set me on a path of cheap
beer that I didn't shake for decades. I wouldn't have minded as much
if I had made the trifecta with cheap women. Its tough to find women
impressed with a date of Bali Hai and/or Strohs, or, on a big night, a
pitcher of Sangria.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Boyer has paid his debt assuming he does not violate his probation. I
hope he finds his place in cycling if he chooses & lives a happy life.
He was one hell of a bike racer!

Quoted message said:

Its tough to find women impressed with a date of Bali Hai and/or

Strohs, or, on a

Quoted message said:

big night, a pitcher of Sangria.

that's why you gotta get 'em young... ;-)

11 years old--that's 5th grade. Think about it. He was 41. Not 21
and thinking he was with an 18 year old. He was a 41 year old with a
5th grader you stupid [censored]. He's a child molester. I don't give a
[censored] what kind of cyclist he was. His legacy is [censored].

Quoted message said:

Boyer has paid his debt assuming he does not violate his probation. I
hope he finds his place in cycling if he chooses & lives a happy

life.

Quoted message said:

He was one hell of a bike racer!

BFD when does the girl get to have a normal life without needing
counseling? He hasn't paid [censored]. I love you people who are happy to let
criminals go happily on their way, saying "They paid their debt" while
an awful lot of times the victims get [censored] for sympathy and spend the
rest of their life trying to find ways to live with what the criminal
did to them while people like you advocate for better treatment and
more programs for the criminals.
Bill C

Bill C said:

Quoted message said:

Boyer has paid his debt assuming he does not violate his probation. I
hope he finds his place in cycling if he chooses & lives a happy

life.

Quoted message said:

He was one hell of a bike racer!

BFD when does the girl get to have a normal life without needing
counseling? He hasn't paid [censored]. I love you people who are happy to let
criminals go happily on their way, saying "They paid their debt" while
an awful lot of times the victims get [censored] for sympathy and spend the
rest of their life trying to find ways to live with what the criminal
did to them while people like you advocate for better treatment and
more programs for the criminals.
Bill C

If they had killed Boyer, as you advocate, do you imagine the girl would
no longer need counseling?

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

That's the thing, it didn't take you guys long to find out how young
they were, and back off. I agree with you about the 15yr old
especially. There are plenty that could pass for 18, and do, but Boyer
knew exactly what he was doing and chose to continue to do it. I have
sympathy for a college guy who picks up a girl in a bar, or at a party,
then later finds out she was underage. If they are portraying
themselves as adults, in an adult situation, it's damn near impossible
to be sure how old they are. Those IMO are 90% the teens fault and
should be looked at differently, but when someone knowingly gets
involved with a preteen there's no excuse in hell that works for me.
Older teenagers are a tough call given that a large percentage are
already sexually active, and the age of consent/marriage age was much
lower in the past so those get messy and filled with lots of gray
areas.
Bill C

Not to mention hormone supplements in food are supposedly causing children
to physically mature more quickly and society seems to think it's more and
more acceptable for girls to dress in styles more suited for older than they
are.

However, anyway you look at it it's unexcusable. Guys know that girls dress
up to look older than they are, but many think they have a chance to get in
there, they don't want to blow it by asking questions (if they even care).