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  1. I have a Calfee Tetra Pro currently running with a Campy Racing triple. After 10,000 miles I'm going
    to upgrade the entire drive train...bit by bit.

    The first bit is a set of FSA ISIS carbon triple cranks. As a rookie, I know the bottom bracket for
    a triple has to be longer than a double but I can't find anything that tells me exactly what size is
    needed. Looking at FSA's site, it's at least 113mm and more likely 118mm but that's just educated
    guessing. Where I can I find this out and/or do you know?

    Also, recommendation on high quality BB would be appreciated. It seems that Phil Wood doesn't do
    ISIS (I could be wrong!) so any other recommendations? FSA has several.

    Thanks!

  2. CM said:

    I have a Calfee Tetra Pro currently running with a Campy Racing triple. After 10,000 miles I'm
    going to upgrade the entire drive train...bit by bit.

    The first bit is a set of FSA ISIS carbon triple cranks. As a rookie, I know the bottom bracket
    for a triple has to be longer than a double but I can't find anything that tells me exactly what
    size is needed. Looking at FSA's site, it's at least 113mm and more likely 118mm but that's just
    educated guessing. Where I can I find this out and/or do you know?

    Also, recommendation on high quality BB would be appreciated. It seems that Phil Wood doesn't do
    ISIS (I could be wrong!) so any other recommendations? FSA has several.

    Triples do not inherently require a longer spindle. Crank designers have great latitude in that
    regard. Campagnolo Centaur double and triple cranks use the same spindle. There are other examples.

    FSAs catalog is unclear on that point but 108, 113 and 118 ISIS are offered. Which model crank will
    you use? I can check it for you.

    FSA offer square, ISIS and Shimano format cranks in various combinations across various models and
    materials. Confusing.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  3. CM-<< The first bit is a set of FSA ISIS carbon triple cranks. As a rookie, I

    Quoted message said:

    know the bottom bracket for a triple has to be longer than a double but I can't find anything that
    tells me exactly what size is needed. Looking at FSA's site, it's at least 113mm and more likely
    118mm but that's just educated guessing. Where I can I find this out and/or do you know?

    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    Condsidering it's a Calfee with a 34.9mm seat tube and fat-ish chainstays, use the 118mm one and get
    the FSA BB, the steel one.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  4. Peter

    Out of curiosity, why did you specify steel?

    Thanks!

    "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20031228092259.10794.00001011@mb-
    m24.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    CM-<< The first bit is a set of FSA ISIS carbon triple cranks. As a


    rookie, I

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    know the bottom bracket for a triple has to be longer than a double but


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can't find anything that tells me exactly what size is needed. Looking


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    FSA's site, it's at least 113mm and more likely 118mm but that's just educated guessing. Where I
    can I find this out and/or do you know?

    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    Condsidering it's a Calfee with a 34.9mm seat tube and fat-ish chainstays,


    use

    Quoted message said:

    the 118mm one and get the FSA BB, the steel one.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. Quoted message said:

    sllywab-<< Out of curiosity, why did you specify steel? >><BR><BR>

    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    I get it, ignore my previous post about your question. The steel BB weighs just 20 grams more than
    the ti one and I think Ti is a poor material for BB spinldes or pedal spindles.

    Much agree. Selling Ti BB/pedal spindles borders on a criminal act.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  6. A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    sllywab-<< Out of curiosity, why did you specify steel? >><BR><BR>

    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    I get it, ignore my previous post about your question. The steel BB weighs just 20 grams more
    than the ti one and I think Ti is a poor material for BB spinldes or pedal spindles.

    Much agree. Selling Ti BB/pedal spindles borders on a criminal act.

    Then please say so (with warning statements) when someone brings up using Record Pro-Fit pedals. All
    I hear (from Peter) is they are lighter than SPD-SL.

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    sllywab-<< Out of curiosity, why did you specify steel?


    <BR><BR>

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    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    I get it, ignore my previous post about your question. The steel BB weighs just 20 grams more
    than the ti one and I think Ti is a poor material for BB spinldes or pedal spindles.

    Quoted message said:

    A Muzi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Much agree. Selling Ti BB/pedal spindles borders on a criminal act.

    Richard Chan said:

    Then please say so (with warning statements) when someone brings up using Record Pro-Fit pedals.
    All I hear (from Peter) is they are lighter than SPD-SL.

    I'm serious- and I voted with my dollars- I do not sell them.

    I have seen way too many rider injuries over the years from snapped Ti spindles of all descriptions.

    YMMV, with any luck.

    --
    Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  8. Peter Chisholm said:
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    > I get it, ignore my previous post about your question. The steel BB weighs just 20 grams more
    > than the ti one and I think Ti is a poor material for BB spinldes or pedal spindles.

    Andy Muzi chimed in:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm serious- and I voted with my dollars- I do not sell them.

    I have seen way too many rider injuries over the years from snapped Ti spindles of all
    descriptions.

    That makes three of us!

    Sheldon "Steel Israel" Brown +----------------------------------------------------------+
    | I wouldn't try to save weight on handlebars or stems, | or anyplace you body contacts the bike. |
    | Breaking something there always hurts. -Peter Chisholm |
    +----------------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton,
    Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts
    shipped Worldwide captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

  9. Sheldon Brown said:


    Sheldon "Steel Israel" Brown +----------------------------------------------------------+
    | I wouldn't try to save weight on handlebars or stems, | or anyplace you body contacts the bike.
    | | Breaking something there always hurts. -Peter Chisholm |
    +----------------------------------------------------------+

    Peter, you made Sheldon's tagline file! Congratulations!
    --
    Rick Onanian

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