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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

Ahem...

So was Mayo last year.

Tom

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

And we've still got his last chance at Ventoux ahead of us....

Funny, just another, in the long list of people whose careers rebound
only after they have left T-mobile. how could such a rich orginization
be such a talent drain. Amazing.

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

OK, so 26 seconds behind Botero equals how man seconds behind Ullrich?

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

Much different from 2003, but it's difficult to make all that much of it.
Tomorrow will be more interesting, assuming Armstrong doesn't soft pedal it
up the Ventoux depending on his "sensations" (Johan's term).

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) US Postal presented by Berry Floor 49.32.58
(40.45 km/h)
2 David Millar (GBr) Cofidis, Le Crédit par Téléphone 1.06.51
3 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.26.31
4 Inigo Chaurreau (Spa) AG2r Prévoyance 1.59.18
5 Didier Rous (Fra) Brioches La Boulangère 2.09.19
6 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) iBanesto.com 2.31.87
7 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Rabobank 2.45.16
8 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 2.56.93
9 Andrea Peron (Ita) Team CSC 3.01.88
10 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank 3.02.06

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's
pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

OK, so 26 seconds behind Botero equals how man seconds behind Ullrich?

I don't know how many seconds Ullrich would have fallen behind Botero &
Lance... ;-)
Jeff

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Funny, just another, in the long list of people whose careers rebound
only after they have left T-mobile. how could such a rich orginization
be such a talent drain. Amazing.

A good article in velonews.com about that subject. Oscar Sevilla is
the next one to watch on T-Mobile

B. Lafferty said:

Much different from 2003, but it's difficult to make all that much of it.
Tomorrow will be more interesting, assuming Armstrong doesn't soft pedal it
up the Ventoux depending on his "sensations" (Johan's term).

Thanks Bri. I've been hoping to make a contribution to the cycling
terminology thread, but I've been too slow. I think Johan picked up
that term from his time at Once. I always hear those Spanish climbers
talking about "sensations".

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win

a

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's

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happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

OK, so 26 seconds behind Botero equals how man seconds behind Ullrich?

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

historically, a tdf contender dominating the dauphine usually lead to
cracking in the the final week of the tdf- I would say Lance is showing
adequate potential for the top step on the last day of the tdf.

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Dauphiné TT

Provisional
1 Santiago Botero (Col) Phonak Hearing Systems
1.00.06.55 (46.915 km/h)
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 0.01
3 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.26
4 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.39

Eurosport.com indicates:

The result was a disappointment for Armstrong who had made it clear this
race against the clock was a major stepping stone in his attempt to win a
seventh Tour de France next month.

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s18/e9394/sport_lng0_spo18_evt9394_sto728239.shtml

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How disappointed can he be that he was 26 seconds back of a someone not
expected to contend in the TDF? With a month to go, I'd think he's pretty
happy with the result - especially that he finished ahead of Floyd.

Levi, looking good, though.
Jeff

historically, a tdf contender dominating the dauphine usually lead to
cracking in the the final week of the tdf- I would say Lance is showing
adequate potential for the top step on the last day of the tdf.

In the recent interview before the ITT (on www. eurosport.com), he seemed
to lack confidence and focus. In the past he's typically kept his thoughts
to himself, iirc.

jj

B. Lafferty said:

"sensations" (Johan's term).

Feelings, or rather: how he feels (it's French).

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I guess the most important achievement for Armstrong today was to stay
ahead of Vino in the time trial. Heras, Kloden, and Mancebo did not do
too well.

Andre

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| B. Lafferty wrote:
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| > Much different from 2003, but it's difficult to make all that much of
it.
| > Tomorrow will be more interesting, assuming Armstrong doesn't soft pedal
it
| > up the Ventoux depending on his "sensations" (Johan's term).
|
| Thanks Bri. I've been hoping to make a contribution to the cycling
| terminology thread, but I've been too slow. I think Johan picked up
| that term from his time at Once. I always hear those Spanish climbers
| talking about "sensations".

It's a common French cycling term.

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| B. Lafferty wrote:
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| > Much different from 2003, but it's difficult to make all that much of
it.
| > Tomorrow will be more interesting, assuming Armstrong doesn't soft pedal
it
| > up the Ventoux depending on his "sensations" (Johan's term).
|
| Thanks Bri. I've been hoping to make a contribution to the cycling
| terminology thread, but I've been too slow. I think Johan picked up
| that term from his time at Once. I always hear those Spanish climbers
| talking about "sensations".

It's a common French cycling term.

And the rhythm method is a popular mode of contraception...

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| B. Lafferty wrote:
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| > Much different from 2003, but it's difficult to make all that much of
it.
| > Tomorrow will be more interesting, assuming Armstrong doesn't soft
| > pedal
it
| > up the Ventoux depending on his "sensations" (Johan's term).
|
| Thanks Bri. I've been hoping to make a contribution to the cycling
| terminology thread, but I've been too slow. I think Johan picked up
| that term from his time at Once. I always hear those Spanish climbers
| talking about "sensations".

It's a common French cycling term.

And the rhythm method is a popular mode of contraception...

Which means that one doesn't have to worry about loss of "sensation".
Until a few months later...

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trg said:

It's a common French cycling term.

Better add it to the terminology thread.
Headwind is there, c.f:
"In the first part, I fought against the wind and I couldn't exceed a
speed of more than 55 km/h," said Botero."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2005/jun05/dauphinelibere05/?id=results/dauphinelibere053