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  1. Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music" garlic was
    the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

  2. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  3. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  4. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  5. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  6. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  7. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  8. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  9. Richard Kaszeta said:
    (Phred) said:
    In article said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >"Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >> 2 garlic cloves -- I used one of those spherical "single clove" garlic
    >
    >Do you mean 'solo' garlic? They may be somewhat mild, but they're great
    >roasted whole and creamed for stuffings, fillings, spreads, dips and all
    >sorts. You know if you plant one, it grows next time into 'normal' garlic?
    >It's some kind of natural mutation that they force. Can't remember the
    >conditions needed, but it's something like late planting or such that causes
    >it to go 'solo', likely for some self-preservation reason.

    I don't recall what they were called when I bought them at our local
    "second" supermarket, and I hadn't seen them here before. If they're
    still around I'll check out that "solo" designation. I *thought* they
    were advertised as "single clove garlic" when I saw them earlier this
    month. Incidentally, a google for "solo garlic" turns up mostly pages
    for the "Eva Solo garlic press" -- a USD70.00 designer press that I
    can probably live without. ;-) See:
    <http://www.totalhomestore.com/home/product/1001>
    (Click on "larger image" for the best view I've found that gives some
    indication of how the bloody thing works.)

    Following up to myself having tried a google for "single clove garlic,
    it seems the production of those single cloves ("onion garlic"😉 is
    just due to planting time and appropriate propagule.

    As a long-time grower of garlic myself that keeps replanting my own
    bulbs, this matches with my experience. I plant the bulbs every fall,
    but the timing varies, it's usually between 1 and 6 weeks before hard
    frost sets in, and I harvest in the spring.

    If winter comes early, or spring comes late, I get a large fraction of
    my garlic as single cloves. However, if I re-plant these, they'll
    grow as regular garlic the next year, barring another poor growing
    season.

    I don't notice much of a taste difference, although the single clove
    stuff seems a bit milder.

    The only down side is that if all of my garlic of a particular variety
    grows single-clove, I don't have any to split to plant for next year,
    and I have to order some more. Otherwise, for a typical variety (I
    grow 8 to 10 varieties each year, although I'm starting to cut back to
    my favorites) I'll grow around 8 bulbs, one of which will get broken
    up and replanted for the next season.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

    I spent several years living in China, two of which were spent in a
    village where all the inhabitants grew their own food. I remember that
    early in the season, the garlic harvested would be one large clove with
    purplish skin; when harvested later in the season, the garlic would
    have multiple cloves. I was always under the impression that single-
    vs. multi-clove garlic had to do more with the time of harvest than the
    variety.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  10. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  11. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  12. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  13. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  14. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  15. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

    --


    Thanks.

    Debbie

  16. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

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    Thanks.

    Debbie

  17. Richard Kaszeta said:
    Quoted message said:
    Debbie said:

    I was at a garlic festival last year and was told that "music"
    garlic was the most common and sold in stores. Is "Rocombole" the
    same thing?

    "Music" is a variety of Rocambole, at least according to my notes...

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    Thanks.

    Debbie

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