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  1. http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=649

    "Bone and gut disorders 'linked'", BBC News, March 1, 2005,
    Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4306133.stm

    Osteoporosis patients should be screened for a gut disease, US
    researchers believe.

    A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those
    with the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have
    coeliac disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion difficult,
    is found in 1% of the general population.

    The team told the Archives of Internal Medicine the study provided
    evidence of the benefits of a screening programme.

    Although coeliac disease patients commonly have a low bone mineral
    density, the benefit of screening everyone with osteoporosis has been
    unclear to date, the Archives of Internal Medicine reported.

    The team tested 266 patients with osteoporosis and 574 without, putting
    those with positive coeliac tests on gluten-free diets.

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    He said osteoporosis patients should first be tested using a simple
    blood test, known as serologic screening which tests for antibodies
    associated with the disease.

    Diagnosis

    If that test proved positive, he suggested patients should undergo a
    more accurate intestinal biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

    And he added the patients could then be put on a gluten-free diet,
    which could then benefit the osteoporosis.

    "Treatment with a gluten-free diet for a year resulted in improved bone
    density in individuals with coeliac disease and osteoporosis."

    Dr Martin Sarner, honorary secretary of Core, formerly the Digestive
    Disorders Foundation, said he would welcome a screening programme in
    the UK.

    "It would be a positive move, the blood test is relatively simple and
    could be carried out by GPs. It would not be hugely expensive so could
    prove cost effective.

    "The problem is not that many doctors know about the test, I fear this
    is the reason it has not been introduced yet."

  2. "Roman Bystrianyk" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    "Bone and gut disorders 'linked'", BBC News, March 1, 2005,
    Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4306133.stm


    ::
    It's the other way around. People with osteoporosis are not
    likely to be celiacs, but celiacs are most likely to suffer from
    osteoporosis due to their inability to absorb calcium properly.
    Calcium is absorbed by the same part of the intestine that
    gets damaged as a result of gluten intolerance.

  3. Roman Bystrianyk said:


    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=649

    Quoted message said:


    "Bone and gut disorders 'linked'", BBC News, March 1, 2005,
    Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4306133.stm

    Osteoporosis patients should be screened for a gut disease, US
    researchers believe.

    A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those
    with the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have
    coeliac disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion


    difficult,

    Quoted message said:

    is found in 1% of the general population.

    The team told the Archives of Internal Medicine the study provided
    evidence of the benefits of a screening programme.

    Although coeliac disease patients commonly have a low bone mineral
    density, the benefit of screening everyone with osteoporosis has been
    unclear to date, the Archives of Internal Medicine reported.

    The team tested 266 patients with osteoporosis and 574 without,


    putting

    Quoted message said:

    those with positive coeliac tests on gluten-free diets.

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    He said osteoporosis patients should first be tested using a simple
    blood test, known as serologic screening which tests for antibodies
    associated with the disease.

    Diagnosis

    If that test proved positive, he suggested patients should undergo a
    more accurate intestinal biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

    And he added the patients could then be put on a gluten-free diet,
    which could then benefit the osteoporosis.

    "Treatment with a gluten-free diet for a year resulted in improved


    bone

    Quoted message said:

    density in individuals with coeliac disease and osteoporosis."

    Dr Martin Sarner, honorary secretary of Core, formerly the Digestive
    Disorders Foundation, said he would welcome a screening programme in
    the UK.

    "It would be a positive move, the blood test is relatively simple and
    could be carried out by GPs. It would not be hugely expensive so


    could

    Quoted message said:

    prove cost effective.

    "The problem is not that many doctors know about the test, I fear


    this

    Quoted message said:

    is the reason it has not been introduced yet."

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    William Stenson:

    William F. Stenson, M.D., Division of Gastroenterology, Washington
    University, St. Louis. Paid consultant for Pharmacia. (JAMA
    2000;284:1247-55)

    Pharmacia was bought out by Pfizer in 2003.

    and of course they sell drugs for stomach problems:

    http://www.pfizer.com/do/counter/digestive/index.html#dramamine

    TC

  4. There is no medical treatment for celiac disease other than a
    gluten-free diet.

  5. My doctor thought I had "celiac-sprue," as he called it, but I got
    worse, and eventually learned that I had severe osteoporosis. I did
    my own research, realized that I had hardly any stomach acid, and so
    supplemented it, and also ate lots of butter and avoided
    polyunsaturated fatty acids, and was able to resolve the problem to a
    large degree within less than half a year. I eat plenty of wheat now,
    but only the easy-to-digest unbleached flour, often organic pastry
    flour, and I never eat food that is difficult to digest, like beans.

  6. patchel said:

    There is no medical treatment for celiac disease other than a
    gluten-free diet.

    Breaking the Vicious Cycle: Intestinal Health Through Diet
    by Elaine Gloria Gottschall
    Paperback
    Publisher: Kirkton Press; Rev edition (August 1, 1994)
    ISBN: 0969276818

    TC

  7. "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Roman Bystrianyk said:


    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=649

    Quoted message said:


    "Bone and gut disorders 'linked'", BBC News, March 1, 2005,
    Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4306133.stm

    Osteoporosis patients should be screened for a gut disease, US
    researchers believe.

    A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those
    with the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have
    coeliac disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion


    difficult,

    Quoted message said:

    is found in 1% of the general population.

    The team told the Archives of Internal Medicine the study provided
    evidence of the benefits of a screening programme.

    Although coeliac disease patients commonly have a low bone mineral
    density, the benefit of screening everyone with osteoporosis has been
    unclear to date, the Archives of Internal Medicine reported.

    The team tested 266 patients with osteoporosis and 574 without,


    putting

    Quoted message said:

    those with positive coeliac tests on gluten-free diets.

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    He said osteoporosis patients should first be tested using a simple
    blood test, known as serologic screening which tests for antibodies
    associated with the disease.

    Diagnosis

    If that test proved positive, he suggested patients should undergo a
    more accurate intestinal biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

    And he added the patients could then be put on a gluten-free diet,
    which could then benefit the osteoporosis.

    "Treatment with a gluten-free diet for a year resulted in improved


    bone

    Quoted message said:

    density in individuals with coeliac disease and osteoporosis."

    Dr Martin Sarner, honorary secretary of Core, formerly the Digestive
    Disorders Foundation, said he would welcome a screening programme in
    the UK.

    "It would be a positive move, the blood test is relatively simple and
    could be carried out by GPs. It would not be hugely expensive so


    could

    Quoted message said:

    prove cost effective.

    "The problem is not that many doctors know about the test, I fear


    this

    Quoted message said:

    is the reason it has not been introduced yet."

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    William Stenson:

    William F. Stenson, M.D., Division of Gastroenterology, Washington
    University, St. Louis. Paid consultant for Pharmacia. (JAMA
    2000;284:1247-55)

    Pharmacia was bought out by Pfizer in 2003.

    and of course they sell drugs for stomach problems:

    http://www.pfizer.com/do/counter/digestive/index.html#dramamine

    TC

    By the time they find the celaic disease due to osteo much damage
    is done. Given the rate of celaic disease in the population, it make
    more sense to screen all the young for it. It would sure save on
    the family meds budget.

    There are events is early childhood that influence
    how severe the manifestation of celiac disease will be.

    Quoted message said:
  8. Roman Bystrianyk said:


    http://www.healthsentinel.com/news.php?event=news_print_list_item&id=649

    Quoted message said:


    "Bone and gut disorders 'linked'", BBC News, March 1, 2005,
    Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4306133.stm

    Osteoporosis patients should be screened for a gut disease, US
    researchers believe.

    A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those
    with the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have
    coeliac disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion


    difficult,

    Quoted message said:

    is found in 1% of the general population.

    The team told the Archives of Internal Medicine the study provided
    evidence of the benefits of a screening programme.

    Although coeliac disease patients commonly have a low bone mineral
    density, the benefit of screening everyone with osteoporosis has been
    unclear to date, the Archives of Internal Medicine reported.

    The team tested 266 patients with osteoporosis and 574 without,


    putting

    Quoted message said:

    those with positive coeliac tests on gluten-free diets.

    Lead researcher William Stenson said the coeliac risk rate was "high
    enough to justify a recommendation that all individuals with
    osteoporosis undergo screening."

    He said osteoporosis patients should first be tested using a simple
    blood test, known as serologic screening which tests for antibodies
    associated with the disease.

    Diagnosis

    If that test proved positive, he suggested patients should undergo a
    more accurate intestinal biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

    And he added the patients could then be put on a gluten-free diet,
    which could then benefit the osteoporosis.

    "Treatment with a gluten-free diet for a year resulted in improved


    bone

    Quoted message said:

    density in individuals with coeliac disease and osteoporosis."

    Dr Martin Sarner, honorary secretary of Core, formerly the Digestive
    Disorders Foundation, said he would welcome a screening programme in
    the UK.

    "It would be a positive move, the blood test is relatively simple and
    could be carried out by GPs. It would not be hugely expensive so


    could

    Quoted message said:

    prove cost effective.

    "The problem is not that many doctors know about the test, I fear


    this

    Quoted message said:

    is the reason it has not been introduced yet."

    This is an interesting example of how an insight, into a disease, that
    might hurt the pharmaceutical industry is co-opted to sell tests.

    The study found a link between coeliac disease and osteoporosis. We
    already know that gluten-containing foods have a causal relationship
    with coeliac disease. The intelligent person would deduce that
    gluten-containing foods may be one of the the causes of osteoporosis.
    If that is the case, we may be able to conclude that we can effectively
    treat or even cure both these conditions by a simple change in diet. No
    drugs, no testing, just apply a change of diet and possibly cure two
    conditions at once. Kinda like advocating low carb, except the carbs
    being restricted are strictly the gluten-containing carbs.

    But that does nothing for pharmaceutical sales does it?

    So what they do instead is suggest that we now test all people with
    osteoporosis for ceoliac disease. They can now sell millions of tests
    for ceoliac disease.

    Now that's marketing.

    And I notice that they say precious little about actually treating
    osteoporosis with a gluten free diet. I would think that that would be
    a breakthrough considering that the mainstream is obsessed with people
    getting enough calcium in their diets to pre-empt osteporosis. This is
    a clear indication that getting calcium in the diet is not as critical
    as removing gluten-containing foods from the diet. This represents an
    entirely different approach to treating osteoporosis than what is
    currently done.

    TC

  9. "A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those
    with the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have coeliac
    disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion difficult,
    is found in 1% of the general population. "

    As I read this, it means that perhaps 17% of people with osteoporosis
    may have coeliac disease. That seems to me to be a high enough
    proportion to warrant testing, but far too low a proportion to suggest
    that everyone with osteoporosis go on gluten-free diets without any testing.

    Janet

  10. Do you mean test automatically? Should there be some kind of symptoms
    present?
    bj

    "Janet Price" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "A Washington University Bone Clinic study of 840 people found those with
    the brittle bone disorder were 17 times more likely to have coeliac
    disease.

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion difficult, is
    found in 1% of the general population. "

    As I read this, it means that perhaps 17% of people with osteoporosis may
    have coeliac disease. That seems to me to be a high enough proportion to
    warrant testing, but far too low a proportion to suggest that everyone
    with osteoporosis go on gluten-free diets without any testing.

    Janet


  11. Quoted message said:

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion difficult,
    is found in 1% of the general population.

    1% may have true diagnosed Celiac disease, but as many as 15% have gluten
    sensitivity. The difference may be only in degree.

    Even for Celaic disease, a 2000 study in the Journal of Pediatrics on 1200
    children found the incidence as high as 3%.


  12. Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The disease, an intolerance to gluten which makes digestion difficult,
    is found in 1% of the general population.

    1% may have true diagnosed Celiac disease, but as many as 15% have gluten
    sensitivity. The difference may be only in degree.

    Oops, I meant gluten INTOLERANCE. And, the 15% includes wheat intolerance.

    Quoted message said:


    Even for Celaic disease, a 2000 study in the Journal of Pediatrics on 1200
    children found the incidence as high as 3%.

  13. Not all celiacs have symptoms.

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