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Bomberhood rescue needed

Bob · 2003-09-15T12:15:37+00:00

Ok, I really like the marz 03 Marathon S, that I have been riding since last fall. Yeah, the wipers can use a little silicon and stanchion cleaning. But when it got really hot last month, I neglected to slip a little lube under the dust wipers. The adventure of the day was to replace the wipers, seals and oil...a routine matter. Hmmm, these wipers seem awfully tight....hmmmm, maybe a little more prying and Oh [censored]. So whats a little tear in a wiper? Well, it turns out these babies are melted (!) into the retaining slot and won't budge. I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks of rubber. It makes a grown man cry to see a fork go down to such misuse. Now I am off to my LBS for more help, but suspect that the Marz techs will be looking at this one soon. The main issue is that the great fall rides are just starting and I am out of commission. Anyone have problems with melted wipers before? I haven't. Sad Bob

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Bob
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15 September 2003, 12:15 UTC #1

Ok, I really like the marz 03 Marathon S, that I have been riding since last fall. Yeah, the wipers
can use a little silicon and stanchion cleaning.
But when it got really hot last month, I neglected to slip a little lube under the dust wipers.
The adventure of the day was to replace the wipers, seals and oil...a routine matter. Hmmm, these
wipers seem awfully tight....hmmmm, maybe a little more prying and Oh [censored]. So whats a little tear
in a wiper? Well, it turns out these babies are melted (!) into the retaining slot and won't budge.
I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks
of rubber.
It makes a grown man cry to see a fork go down to such misuse.
Now I am off to my LBS for more help, but suspect that the Marz techs will be looking at
this one soon.
The main issue is that the great fall rides are just starting and I am out of commission.
Anyone have problems with melted wipers before? I haven't.
Sad Bob

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Michael Dart
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15 September 2003, 14:32 UTC #2

"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ok, I really like the marz 03 Marathon S, that I have been riding since

last
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fall. Yeah, the wipers can use a little silicon and stanchion cleaning.
But when it got really hot last month, I neglected to slip a little lube under the dust wipers.
<snip tale of woe and human pathos>
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Anyone have problems with melted wipers before? I haven't.
Sad Bob
Damn man how hot does it get where you ride?! I've never heard of such a thing. I usually don't
fiddle with the wipers until I do a complete service of the fork. They are much easier to remove
when the stanchions are out. What are you spraying on them and could it be reacting with the
wiper material?
Mike

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Bob
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16 September 2003, 05:33 UTC #3

"Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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Ok, I really like the marz 03 Marathon S, that I have been riding since

last
Quoted message said:
fall. Yeah, the wipers can use a little silicon and stanchion cleaning.
But when it got really hot last month, I neglected to slip a little lube under the dust wipers.
<snip tale of woe and human pathos>
Quoted message said:
Anyone have problems with melted wipers before? I haven't.
Sad Bob
Damn man how hot does it get where you ride?! I've never heard of such a thing. I usually don't
fiddle with the wipers until I do a complete

service
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of the fork. They are much easier to remove when the stanchions are out. What are you spraying on
them and could it be reacting with the wiper material?
Mike
Well thank you for the snip of tale of woe. That was insightful.
But, I am like you. Clean em when you change em and the oil. This has me really baffled. I haven't
put anything hurtful on the stanchions or the wipers. So when I went to lift them out (after
pulling the coils and stanchions) they were solid. The tech at Marz thought I was talking about the
seal and forgot to pull the retention ring, but these were the wipers solidly fused to the inner
magnesium set ring.
They are on their way back to Valencia to see if there is salvage possible......
It has been pretty hot in spots this summer. I was up on the east side of Mt St Helens, Washington.
It was running about 105 in the sun, and no shade for around 20-25 miles or so. Some people were
seen laying in the cold streams.......I just figured it was hot, but not melting rubber hot....
Woeful Bob

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Michael Dart
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16 September 2003, 12:32 UTC #4

"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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Ok, I really like the marz 03 Marathon S, that I have been riding

since
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
last
Quoted message said:
fall. Yeah, the wipers can use a little silicon and stanchion cleaning.
But when it got really hot last month, I neglected to slip a little

lube
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
under the dust wipers.
<snip tale of woe and human pathos>
Quoted message said:
Anyone have problems with melted wipers before? I haven't.
Sad Bob
Damn man how hot does it get where you ride?! I've never heard of such

a
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
thing. I usually don't fiddle with the wipers until I do a complete

service
Quoted message said:
of the fork. They are much easier to remove when the stanchions are

out.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
What are you spraying on them and could it be reacting with the wiper material?
Mike
Well thank you for the snip of tale of woe. That was insightful.
But, I am like you. Clean em when you change em and the oil. This has me really baffled. I haven't
put anything hurtful on the stanchions or the wipers. So when I went to lift them out (after
pulling the coils and stanchions) they were solid. The tech at Marz thought I was talking about
the seal and forgot to pull

the
Quoted message said:
retention ring, but these were the wipers solidly fused to the inner magnesium set ring.
They are on their way back to Valencia to see if there is salvage possible......
It has been pretty hot in spots this summer. I was up on the east side of

Mt
Quoted message said:
St Helens, Washington. It was running about 105 in the sun, and no shade for around 20-25 miles

or
Quoted message said:
so. Some people were seen laying in the cold streams.......I just figured it

was
Quoted message said:
hot, but not melting rubber hot....
Woeful Bob
Is it a 'dry' heat? ;^)
You may want to consider these as an alternative.
enduroforkseals.comid11.html
Maybe polyurethane has a higher melting point than rubber. They are very easy to install which made
me question the main oil seal which didn't require the setting tool to install. But they work very
well. You just pop 'em in with your fingers put the washer on top of them instead of below and put
the snap ring in. The wipers install the same way as the original ones
did. They are cheaper too.
Cheers! :^)
Mike

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Bob
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16 September 2003, 16:03 UTC #5

Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
It has been pretty hot in spots this summer. I was up on the east side

of
Quoted message said:
Mt
Quoted message said:
St Helens, Washington. It was running about 105 in the sun, and no shade for around 20-25 miles

or
Quoted message said:
so. Some people were seen laying in the cold streams.......I just figured it

was
Quoted message said:
hot, but not melting rubber hot....
Woeful Bob
Is it a 'dry' heat? ;^)
You may want to consider these as an alternative.
enduroforkseals.comid11.html
Maybe polyurethane has a higher melting point than rubber. They are very easy to install which
made me question the main oil seal which didn't require the setting tool to install. But they work
very well. You just

pop
Quoted message said:
'em in with your fingers put the washer on top of them instead of below

and
Quoted message said:
put the snap ring in. The wipers install the same way as the original

ones
Quoted message said:
did. They are cheaper too.
Cheers! :^)
Mike
Funny! That is what I have in my shop ready to put in place of the factory seals. Too bad I can't
get the rubber chips out in order to do that. Yes, those seals look very good sitting on my work
bench next to the oil...................................
Bob

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Michael Dart
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16 September 2003, 16:34 UTC #6

"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
It has been pretty hot in spots this summer. I was up on the east side

of
Quoted message said:
Mt
Quoted message said:
St Helens, Washington. It was running about 105 in the sun, and no shade for around 20-25

miles
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
or
Quoted message said:
so. Some people were seen laying in the cold streams.......I just figured

it
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
was
Quoted message said:
hot, but not melting rubber hot....
Woeful Bob
Is it a 'dry' heat? ;^)
You may want to consider these as an alternative.
enduroforkseals.comid11.html
Maybe polyurethane has a higher melting point than rubber. They are

very
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
easy to install which made me question the main oil seal which didn't require the setting tool
to install. But they work very well. You just

pop
Quoted message said:
'em in with your fingers put the washer on top of them instead of below

and
Quoted message said:
put the snap ring in. The wipers install the same way as the original

ones
Quoted message said:
did. They are cheaper too.
Cheers! :^)
Mike
Funny! That is what I have in my shop ready to put in place of the factory seals. Too bad I can't
get the rubber chips out in order to do that. Yes, those seals look very good sitting on my work
bench next to the oil...................................
Bob
Hehehe...well that's all I got. Good luck getting it all sorted.
Stay cool! ;^)
Mike

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Bob
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17 September 2003, 00:25 UTC #7

"Michael Dart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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"Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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> It has been pretty hot in spots this summer. I was up on the east

side
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
of
Quoted message said:
Mt
> St Helens, Washington. It was running about 105 in the sun, and no shade for around 20-25

miles
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
or
> so. Some people were seen laying in the cold streams.......I just

figured
Quoted message said:
it
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
was
> hot, but not melting rubber hot....
>
> Woeful Bob
>
>
Is it a 'dry' heat? ;^)
You may want to consider these as an alternative.
enduroforkseals.comid11.html
Maybe polyurethane has a higher melting point than rubber. They are

very
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
easy to install which made me question the main oil seal which didn't require the setting tool
to install. But they work very well. You

just
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
pop
Quoted message said:
'em in with your fingers put the washer on top of them instead of

below
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
and
Quoted message said:
put the snap ring in. The wipers install the same way as the original

ones
Quoted message said:
did. They are cheaper too.
Cheers! :^)
Mike
Funny! That is what I have in my shop ready to put in place of the factory

seals.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Too bad I can't get the rubber chips out in order to do that. Yes, those seals look very good
sitting on my work bench next to the oil...................................
Bob
Hehehe...well that's all I got. Good luck getting it all sorted.
Stay cool! ;^)
Mike
Will let you know how it plays out.........................
Cool Bob

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John Morgan
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17 September 2003, 06:41 UTC #8

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I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks
of rubber.
This quote was written by a genius. A genius named Bob. I am going to frame this with the caption
"Tale of Woe" underneath it. I laughed hysterically for a good 5 minutes over it.
-John Morgan

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Slacker
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17 September 2003, 06:41 UTC #9

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Will let you know how it plays out.........................
Cool Bob
Please do post a follow up. I'm really curious what Marzocchi is going to say/do.
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Bob
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17 September 2003, 06:41 UTC #10

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Will let you know how it plays out.........................
Cool Bob
Please do post a follow up. I'm really curious what Marzocchi is going to say/do.
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Shaun Rimmer
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17 September 2003, 11:03 UTC #11

John Morgan <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nXS9b.55353$cj1.13799@fed1read06...
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I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks of
rubber.
This quote was written by a genius. A genius named Bob. I am going to frame this with the caption
"Tale of Woe" underneath it. I laughed hysterically for a good 5 minutes over it.
-John Morgan
Heh - I'd say to Bob, try a bloody sharp knife, a little force, and a lot of care!
Shaun aRe

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Bob
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18 September 2003, 04:02 UTC #12

"John Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nXS9b.55353$cj1.13799@fed1read06...
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I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks of
rubber.
This quote was written by a genius. A genius named Bob. I am going to frame this with the caption
"Tale of Woe" underneath it. I laughed hysterically for a good 5 minutes over it.
-John Morgan
Don't forget to add the facial expressions as this tale progressed. More to follow................
Bob

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