Boiled chicken?

One time on Usenet said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

Is she sick? You've got my sympathies, I've been dealing with a
sick kitty for a couple of weeks now.

Quoted message said:

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Bring it to a boil, then turn the heat down until it gently
bubbles -- cook for about 25 minutes.

Quoted message said:

Not sure how to recognize it's done.

Poke the largest piece and check the juices that come out -- they
should be clear, not pink.

Quoted message said:

Not that a dog cares much.

I don't know if dogs can get Salmonella, but no point in taking
any chances. Hope your dog gets better soon...

--
jj - rfc (Jani) in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

Ron Hardin said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

Dogs can eat raw chicken without risk of salmonella. Check out the
following link for more info and an excellent acronym.
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/barf.html

Cam

Ron Hardin said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

Can your dog handle that much chicken. Most dogs have trouble with
chicken and other types of fowl. At the very least the dog may have
a serious fart attack. It may also end up with diarrhoea.

Ron Hardin said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

What's up with her? Have you had her to the vet?

Loss of appetite is a symptom, not an ailment in and of itself. Have
her checked out for thyroid malfunctions. If these tests read as
normal, consider the possibility that the dog doesn't need anywhere near
the caloric intake you are assuming to be necessary. Housepets don't
burn a whole ton of energy.

Slim is healthy, in dogs as well as humans. If your dog's moderate
appetite allows you to reduce his food intake and keep her slim and
healthy, so much to the better.

Kathleen

Dave Smith said:

Ron Hardin said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

Can your dog handle that much chicken. Most dogs have trouble with
chicken and other types of fowl. At the very least the dog may have
a serious fart attack. It may also end up with diarrhoea.

And it goes without saying but I'm going to say it anyway just in case,
take the meat off the bones before you put it in front of the dog.
Poultry bones will splinter and do real damage. -aem

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:53:44 GMT, Ron Hardin <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

When my dog was sick, the vet had me feed her boiled hamburger mixed
with rice. She loved it, and it appeared to be soothing to her
stomach. I hope your dog recovers from whatever is keeping her from
eating.

Peace,
Carol

Damsel in dis Dress said:

When my dog was sick, the vet had me feed her boiled hamburger mixed
with rice. She loved it, and it appeared to be soothing to her
stomach. I hope your dog recovers from whatever is keeping her from
eating.

How do you do boiled hamburger? I was thinking of just nuking some
high fat hamburger for a couple minutes and making a microwave
hamburger.

It would seem like boiling would take out the fat, which is part of
what the dog needs.

--
Ron Hardin
[email hidden]

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

"Ron Hardin" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

I had a similar situation, I wound up heating up
chicken noodle soup for her. Your dog might not
want to chew larger pieces, but obviously I don't know
the situation. Maybe try some low sodium chicken
soup. Smells good, makes them think maybe I could
eat.

nancy

Kathleen said:

What's up with her? Have you had her to the vet?

Probably kidney disease, maybe an autoimmune thing; the idea is to keep
her weight up.

--
Ron Hardin
[email hidden]

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Ron Hardin said:

Kathleen said:

What's up with her? Have you had her to the vet?

Probably kidney disease, maybe an autoimmune thing; the idea is to keep
her weight up.

http://home.att.net/~rhhardin/annie.html is a thousand pics of her over the last
9 months, if you want a thousand Doberman pictures. I think she's pretty anyway.

--
Ron Hardin
[email hidden]

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:19:51 GMT, Ron Hardin <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Damsel in dis Dress said:

When my dog was sick, the vet had me feed her boiled hamburger mixed
with rice. She loved it, and it appeared to be soothing to her
stomach. I hope your dog recovers from whatever is keeping her from
eating.

How do you do boiled hamburger? I was thinking of just nuking some
high fat hamburger for a couple minutes and making a microwave
hamburger.

Drop small pieces of the ground meat into hot water and remove it when
it turns brown.

Quoted message said:

It would seem like boiling would take out the fat, which is part of
what the dog needs.

Okay, my dog had diarrhea or something (I can't recall).

If she needs the fat, I'd drop small pieces of the ground meat into a
skillet, cook it, add the cooked rice to the pan, stir, and give the
whole works to the dog.

Hope that helps.

Peace,
Carol

"Ron Hardin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

--
Ron Hardin
==============

Ron,

Is it Annie who's sick? She's beautiful (as are Katie & Sugar). It was so
nice seeing so many pictures of her and the farming area of Ohio. I had a
tough time at first, guess if it was Illinois, Indiana, or Ohio. I lived in
Illinois for many years and worked throughout that whole region during
which.... I miss the seasons. Florida only has two - hot and/or humid. LOL

I hope things improve with your dog.

You can see so much love and devotion in Annie's eyes... boy, I could almost
reach through the screen and rub her muzzle and scratch her neck...

I wish you both luck and good health.

--
Syssi

Ron Hardin <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and posted
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

I want to boil chicken for my dog, hoping chicken and rice will
induce her to eat without hand feeding it to her, to get some
calories inside her.

How long do you boil cut-up chicken? say a couple thigh meats
and a breast meat.

Not sure how to recognize it's done. Not that a dog cares much.

Have you talked to your vet? My little Ramsey (kitten) is way underweight
but likes tinned tuna. He gets it maybe 2x a month which is too much. I
also feed him Nutro Max Cat (kitten food). I give him a mix of dry and wet
food 2x a day and keep a bowl of dry food out for him which he eats a lot
of. Ramsey is really active and the vet says he is always going to be
"petite" but right now he's healthy.

I would say boil the chicken for maybe 15-20 minutes. Remove the fat and
dice it. Then add the rice. Your dog will love you but remember, it'll be
a life long commitment 😉

Michael

--
"The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
found."

--Calvin Trillin

Ron said:

How do you do boiled hamburger? I was thinking of just nuking some
high fat hamburger for a couple minutes and making a microwave
hamburger.

It would seem like boiling would take out the fat, which is part of
what the dog needs.

The Cincinnati Chili recipe from America's Test Kitchen starts off by
boiling ground beef:

Cincinnati Chili

Choose a relatively plain tomato sauce-nothing too spicy or herbaceous. To
warm the kidney beans, simmer them in water to cover for several minutes and
then drain.

Serves 6 to 8
Chili

2 teaspoons table salt or more to taste
1 1/2 pounds ground beef chuck
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 medium onions , chopped fine (about 2 cups)
2 medium cloves garlic , minced or pressed through a garlic press (about 2
teaspoons)
2 tablespoons chili powder
2 teaspoons dried oregano
2 teaspoons cocoa
1 1/2 teaspoons ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1/2 teaspoon ground allspice
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
2 cups low-sodium chicken broth
2 cups water
2 tablespoons cider vinegar
2 teaspoons dark brown sugar
2 cups tomato sauce
hot pepper sauce

Accompaniments

1 pound spaghetti , cooked, drained, and tossed with 2 tablespoons of
unsalted butter
12 ounces sharp cheddar cheese , shredded
1 can red kidney beans (15-ounce), drained, rinsed, and warmed
1 medium white onion , chopped fine (about 1 cup)

1. FOR THE CHILI: Bring 2 quarts of water and 1 teaspoon of the salt to a
boil in a large saucepan. Add the ground chuck, stirring vigorously to
separate the meat into individual strands. As soon as the foam from the meat
rises to the top (this takes about 30 seconds) and before the water returns
to a boil, drain the meat into a strainer and set it aside.

2. Rinse and dry the empty saucepan. Set the pan over medium heat and add
the oil. When the oil is warm, add the onions and cook, stirring frequently,
until the onions are soft and browned around the edges, about 8 minutes. Add
the garlic and cook until fragrant, about 1 minute. Stir in the chili
powder, oregano, cocoa, cinnamon, cayenne, allspice, black pepper, and the
remaining 1 teaspoon salt. Cook, stirring constantly, until the spices are
fragrant, about 30 seconds. Stir in the broth, water, vinegar, sugar, and
tomato sauce, scraping the pan bottom to remove any browned bits.

3. Add the blanched ground beef and increase the heat to high. As soon as
the liquid boils, reduce the heat to medium-low and simmer, stirring
occasionally, until the chili is deep red and has thickened slightly, about
1 hour. Adjust the seasonings, adding salt and hot pepper sauce to taste.
(The chili can be refrigerated in an airtight container for up to 3 days.
Bring to a simmer over medium-low heat before serving.)

4. TO SERVE: Divide the buttered spaghetti among individual bowls. Spoon the
chili over the spaghetti and top with the cheese, beans, and onion. Serve
immediately.

Bob

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote

Quoted message said:

The Cincinnati Chili recipe from America's Test Kitchen starts off by
boiling ground beef:

I think that the reaction I get to even thinking about Cincinnati Chili
must be how modom feels when he reads chili recipes with beans,
tomatoes and ground beef.

nancy (spaghetti, cinnamon, oh no)

Nancy Young said:

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote

Quoted message said:

The Cincinnati Chili recipe from America's Test Kitchen starts off by
boiling ground beef:

I think that the reaction I get to even thinking about Cincinnati Chili
must be how modom feels when he reads chili recipes with beans,
tomatoes and ground beef.

nancy (spaghetti, cinnamon, oh no)

This sketti sauce is absolutely delicious.

* Exported from MasterCook *

Eddie's Spaghetti

Recipe By :Bruce Ide
Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories :

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 pound ground beef
extra virgin olive oil -- for frying
2 cans tomato sauce
6 ounces tomato paste
1/2 onion -- diced
1 clove garlic -- minced
1 small green pepper -- cut in 1/2" strips
2 teaspoons nutmeg
1 teaspoon cinnamon
3 tablespoons basil
4 bay leaves
2 teaspoons oregano

First, make meatballs with the ground beef. To do this, put a little
oil in a frying pan and shape the ground beef into balls. Cook the
meat until the meatballs are brown and cooked through, 8 or 10 minutes
at medium to high heat. You may want to add a dash of soy sauce or
similar flavoring to the beef while you cook it. I've found that you
can really affect the flavor of the spaghetti by how you prepare your
meatballs. Cooking them plain is good, adding stuff can be better, but
get comfortable with the recipe before you experiment too much.

Drain the meatballs and add the rest of the ingredients to the frying
pan. If your frying pan is shallow you may want to move to a larger
pot at this point. Simmer for an hour. I've let it simmer as long as
3 or 4 hours but you have to be careful that it doesn't get too thick
if you do this. The longer it simmers, the better it seems to be as
all the flavors mix together. Stir occasionally.

Serve over spaghetti noodles. My room mate is prone to put shredded
cheddar over the noodles before pouring the spaghetti sauce. This
makes a delicious spaghetti that is horribly bad for you :-)

Notes:
-----------
Use extra virgin olive oil when doing the meatballs for better flavor.
Again, this is not particularly healthy, but it makes a noticeable
difference (I think) in the flavor of the spaghetti.

Another suggestion from my friend Dino: He suggests cutting black
olives into slivers and soaking the slivers in extra virgin olive oil
for a day or two before starting the spaghetti, then draining and
adding them to the sauce when you start cooking. I've only ever done
this once as my room mate hates black olives.

Source:
"rec.food.cooking"
Copyright:
"7-1-1997"
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- -

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 1826 Calories; 125g Fat (59.9%
calories from fat); 93g Protein; 96g Carbohydrate; 26g Dietary Fiber;
386mg Cholesterol; 4628mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Grain(Starch); 11 Lean
Meat; 14 1/2 Vegetable; 18 1/2 Fat.

NOTES : July 3, 1997: I just finished eating a huge plate of
spaghetti, blanketed in Eddie's sauce and topped with shredded
parmesan cheese. Mmmmmm! Instead of making meatballs, I browned the
ground beef along with the onion and garlic, then cooked it with the
rest of the ingredients. The results were a very thick sauce. I
found the nutmeg to be a little overpowering though (I kept thinking
about eggnog), and Crash (love-o'-my-life) thought there was too much
cinnamon. Next time, I'll use 1/2 teaspoon of each and see how that
turns out.

On Fri 31 Mar 2006 08:27:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Nancy Young?

Quoted message said:

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote

Quoted message said:

The Cincinnati Chili recipe from America's Test Kitchen starts off by
boiling ground beef:

I think that the reaction I get to even thinking about Cincinnati Chili
must be how modom feels when he reads chili recipes with beans,
tomatoes and ground beef.

nancy (spaghetti, cinnamon, oh no)

Nancy, I agree. I think Cincinnati Chili is disgusting...on several levels.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ron Hardin said:

Damsel in dis Dress said:

When my dog was sick, the vet had me feed her boiled hamburger mixed
with rice. She loved it, and it appeared to be soothing to her
stomach. I hope your dog recovers from whatever is keeping her from
eating.

How do you do boiled hamburger? I was thinking of just nuking some
high fat hamburger for a couple minutes and making a microwave
hamburger.

It would seem like boiling would take out the fat, which is part of
what the dog needs.

Just take the ground beef and put it in a pan and cover it with boiling
water and let it simmer over a low heat until the beef loses its red
color, then drain it before serving. Nuking the meat should work fine
too. What makes you think your dogs needs fat? If you haven't done so,
you should definitely consult with a vet before you put your dog on a
new diet.

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote...

Quoted message said:

On Fri 31 Mar 2006 08:27:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Nancy
Young?

Quoted message said:

"Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote

Quoted message said:

The Cincinnati Chili recipe from America's Test Kitchen starts off by
boiling ground beef:

I think that the reaction I get to even thinking about Cincinnati Chili
must be how modom feels when he reads chili recipes with beans,
tomatoes and ground beef.

nancy (spaghetti, cinnamon, oh no)

Nancy, I agree. I think Cincinnati Chili is disgusting...on several
levels.
--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬

The problem with Cincinnati Chili (or Skyline or Empress or whatever) is its
name. It ain't chili. Period. It's a speecy-spicy sauce for spaghetti, which
you then top with beans, cheese and onion.

My family thinks it's disgusting, but I love it.

Felice