blooming considerate motorists - a rant

"stephen pridgeon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
do something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

My pet hate at the moment is when I'm moving up through a traffic queue, the queue starts to move,
and the car immediately in front sees me and doesn't move off - expecting me to pass it before it
moves off. I wonder why they've stopped, so I have to stop and unclip, then they move off and I've
got to reclip and move off again. God, the hassle.

ARRRGH - I'm cycling like a London Motorist - don'they realise I'm a lean mean wheel-turning
machine, a wannabe messenger, dancing on pedals and flowing through traffic as a fish
through water!!

Damm you all for driving sensibly.

Still, this morning a BMW pulled into a bus lane, and shot off down it, slowing only marginally
for the red light on the pelican crossing. Restored all my stereotypes about car drivers (and
that's all car drivers, everywhere (but not including me or my wife)).

Thank you SteveP

Yeahbut... The one that really gets me is when I've pulled up at a junction in the wrong gear,
waiting for a gap to pull off into, then someone does exactly as you describe and *politely* lets me
in, holding the traffic up to do so!!...B*st*rds!!...the humiliation of trying to pull out in top
gear, with all these cagers watching, drumming their steering wheels, looking at their watches,
while I strain to get moving, sweat appearing on my brow, veins pulsing in my neck as I try to
change my down tube gearshifter gears, fluffing it, crunching, slipping and finally catching it,
climbing back in the saddle and still having to acknowledge their generosity with a cheery wave over
my shoulder as I finally get under way and start picking some speed up...oh, the humiliation - they
really know how to kick a guy when he's down!!!

Dave ;-) (happy now!)

"stephen pridgeon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
do something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

Of course, some (many?) of us here are also car drivers - perhaps we are more cycle-friendly
than others.

But I know what you mean... 😉

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| I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
| to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
| really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
| do something nice and it completely throws me
| - sometimes badly.
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| My pet hate at the moment is when I'm moving up through a traffic queue, the queue starts to move,
| and the car immediately in front sees me and doesn't move off - expecting me to pass it before it
| moves off. I wonder why they've stopped, so I have to stop and unclip, then they move off and I've
| got to reclip and move off again. God, the hassle.
|=20
| ARRRGH - I'm cycling like a London Motorist - don'they realise I'm a lean mean wheel-turning
| machine, a wannabe messenger, dancing on pedals and flowing through traffic as a fish
| through water!!
|=20
| Damm you all for driving sensibly.
|=20
| Still, this morning a BMW pulled into a bus lane, and shot off down it, slowing only marginally
| for the red light on the pelican crossing. Restored all my stereotypes about car drivers (and
| that's all car drivers, everywhere (but not including me or my wife)).
|=20
| Thank you SteveP

It's interesting that the most considerate drivers I have experienced = over the past few days are
Truck drivers and White Van Man..... the self = same groups that most motorists berate!! (and the
worst.... Black VW = Golf drivers and silver Vectras!)

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(stephen pridgeon) said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down to
let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these really
really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they do
something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

Mrs. G particularly enjoys doing this. She drives a huge, rusty white transit complete with large
scrapes up the sides. Then, she slowly creeps up behind cyclists, carefully overtakes them when it's
safe to do so making sure she's leaving plenty of room for them and then pulls in ahead of them when
she's safely passed them and can see them clearly behind her. All of this considerate behaviour
really worries the heck out of 'em.
:-)

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Bah!

stephen pridgeon said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
do something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

My pet hate at the moment is

<snip>

My pet hate is the motorist on the oposite side of the road who flashes me to turn right, and
wonders why I don't move. The reason is usually they are trying to get me to turn right into the
path of the regular motorist undertaking them on their left. Its even worse if its a van or lorry.

Even in a car I hate it when people think they are being polite by giving way when they have the
right of way, as it causes uncertainty (except when they are letting you out of a side road - even
that can cause confusion if anyone hesitates).

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stephen pridgeon said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
do something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

The worst one is when looking to pull out of a side turning theres a line of cars comming. so I am
looking up the road behind the line of cars ready to go when the last car passes the junction. What
happens is the last car in the line stops to let you out but because your too busy looking up the
road for the 100mpher you don't see the car stop to let you out and then they have the cheek to get
irritated about it. Don't these people use the mirrors and know that theres a big gap behind them?

Ivor Cave

"stephen pridgeon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - considerate motorists who stop, give way, slow down
to let me get past, drive behind me at a distance when it's not safe to overtake - All these
really really scare me. I'm just not used to it. I expect them to drive discourtously, then they
do something nice and it completely throws me
- sometimes badly.

One of my pet peeves, whether as a cyclist, driver or ped, is when people do decide to give way to
you, in situations where priority may or may not be equal (often in circumstances where they have no
choice or it makes more sense for them to let me through because of the availability of a suitable
gap) then expect you to thank them for it. Often I do, one way or another but every now and again
you get someone who calls out "thank you" in a rather irritated sort of voice as you pass, just
because you didn't express suitable gestures or vocal tones of appreciation first. FFS, if you
decide to give way when it's hardly cost you anything anyway and it was reasonable to do so in the
circs, there's hardly any reason to _demand_ to be thanked for it or to get [censored] if suitable
gestures of appreciation aren't forthcoming!

Rich

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Mason said:

Pet hate at the moment is cars that overtake you and then want to turn left immediately.

Agreed.

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Not the obvious ones who try to wipe you out, but ones who overtake you and indicate left
then stop completely, waving you by on their

Don't knock it. Those ones realise they've done wrong, and are correcting it in time to avoid the
worst outcome. Which is as it should be; we all make mistakes. Waving you through is by way of a
red-faced apology. Think of your inconvenience as a contribution to cager education.

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"Succorso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Of course, some (many?) of us here are also car drivers - perhaps we are more cycle-friendly
than others.

Not last night I wasn't. A rampant bug has left me with wobbly legs and zero energy so I drove to a
meeting last night. Town blocked up with mobile greenhouses (now I know why I cycle -- its quicker).

Guy (not Guy, you understand -- he's in Reading but this young bloke) on a yellow hack MTB skims off
the pavement just in front of me (and gets an irritated hoot). I pass him but he skims past my
offside at the lights, across onto the other pavement and over a ped crossing into the pedestrian
area (I've not described the geography well -- but just stay with me).

An AGE later I have struggled round the inner ring road and start to make my way out of town -- and
guess who zips across another ped crossing 50 yards ahead of me and disappears.

[censored]. To take that long getting through the town centre he must have stopped for a pint, a coffee
or (just maybe) at the library to read War & Peace.

I hate him -- for two reasons.

1. He had no consideration for others or for the rules of the road.

2. He was on a bike and not caught up in a traffic jam.

[censored] : (

In my experience of motorists/cyclists I, in conjunction with my cycling buddies have come up with a
way of remembering what the driver of what car will be like:

Audi = [censored] BMW = [censored]

etc.

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Quoted message said:

Even in a car I hate it when people think they are being polite by giving way when they have the
right of way, as it causes uncertainty (except when they are letting you out of a side road - even
that can cause confusion if anyone hesitates).

Too true. I was blabbering on about this the other week. I failed my driving test on this very
issue, first time around. You got the right of way = you go. That's just good driving. Nothing else.

Garry

Jim Price said:

My pet hate is the motorist on the oposite side of the road who flashes me to turn right, and
wonders why I don't move. The reason is usually they are trying to get me to turn right into the
path of the regular motorist undertaking them on their left. Its even worse if its a van or lorry.

Even in a car I hate it when people think they are being polite by giving way when they have the
right of way, as it causes uncertainty (except when they are letting you out of a side road - even
that can cause confusion if anyone hesitates).

Hi Jim

All that up there ^^^^^ usually causes more delays than if everyone had behaved in the fashion of a
[censored], IMO.

James

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"Jim Price" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Even in a car I hate it when people think they are being polite by giving way when they have the
right of way, as it causes uncertainty (except when they are letting you out of a side road - even
that can cause confusion if anyone hesitates).

Yes, I can't stand that. I brake to a halt, so I've already stopped anyway and then they stop and
wave you on. I wish they'd just kept going, it would have saved us both time.

Pet hate at the moment is cars that overtake you and then want to turn left immediately. Not the
obvious ones who try to wipe you out, but ones who overtake you and indicate left then stop
completely, waving you by on their inside! The idiots then think their doing you a favour by
letting you overtake a motor vehicle on its inside while it's indicating left.

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"Graham Wakley" <grimbly@_nospamformeplease_btinternet.com> wrote in message
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In my experience of motorists/cyclists I, in conjunction with my cycling buddies have come up with
a way of remembering what the driver of what car will be like:

Audi = [censored] BMW = [censored]

Cadillac? Ford? Toyota?

T

"Graham Wakley" <grimbly@_nospamformeplease_btinternet.com> wrote in message
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In my experience of motorists/cyclists I, in conjunction with my cycling buddies have come up with
a way of remembering what the driver of what car will be like:

Audi = [censored] BMW = [censored]

Cyclist = C***?

(;-)

pk

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In my experience of motorists/cyclists I, in conjunction with my cycling buddies have come up with
a way of remembering what the driver of what car will be like:

Audi = [censored] BMW = [censored]

I finally realised what BMW stands for; the middle word is Minded.....

Simon Mason said:

Pet hate at the moment is cars that overtake you and then want to turn left immediately. Not the
obvious ones who try to wipe you out, but ones who overtake you and indicate left then stop
completely, waving you by on their inside! The idiots then think their doing you a favour by
letting you overtake a motor vehicle on its inside while it's indicating left.

Having been wiped out in just such a situation, I would deliberately overtake them, even if it meant
backing the bike up a bit.

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"Nick Kew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>, one of infinite monkeys at the keyboard of "Simon

Mason said:

Pet hate at the moment is cars that overtake you and then want to turn

left

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Quoted message said:

immediately.

Agreed.

Quoted message said:

Not the obvious ones who try to wipe you out, but ones who overtake you and indicate left then
stop completely, waving you by on

their

Quoted message said:

Don't knock it. Those ones realise they've done wrong, and are correcting it in time to avoid the
worst outcome. Which is as it should be; we all make mistakes. Waving you through is by way of a
red-faced apology. Think of your inconvenience as a contribution to cager education.

Perhaps, but all things being equal, I'd rather overtake a left indicating car on it's offside,
which is what I end up doing.

Simon

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Quoted message said:

One of my pet peeves, whether as a cyclist, driver or ped, is when people do decide to give way to
you, in situations where priority may or may not be equal (often in circumstances where they have
no choice or it makes more sense for them to let me through because of the availability of a
suitable gap) then expect you to thank them for it. Often I do, one way or another but every now
and again you get someone who calls out "thank you" in a rather irritated sort of voice as you
pass, just because you didn't express suitable gestures or vocal tones of appreciation first. FFS,
if you decide to give way when it's hardly cost you anything anyway and it was reasonable to do so
in the circs, there's hardly any reason to _demand_ to be thanked for it or to get [censored] if
suitable gestures of appreciation aren't forthcoming!

One of my pet peeves is people who do not give a nod/wave/word of thanks in just those circumstances
- it costs nothing and makes the world a nicer place.

pk