Have been on LC for more than two years. Have had "protein S deficiency for a long time, maybe forever. Anyway, I was on warfarin to thin my blood before LC. After going on LC I needed to increase the amount of warfarin significantly. Like 5 mg per day. Was very steady state until I finally began to experiment with adding back in more carbs into my daily diet. Now I am seeing the amount of warfarin needed to keep my blood at the level the doc wants dropping.
Wonder if carbs affect blood density in all/most/many that way or am I just one of the lucky few?
If it is a side effect could lead to some very bad symptoms for others unless looked into.
Just a thought. With what I've lost on LC, I'll live with the increased warfarin and the decreased weight, not to mention elimination of meds for cholesterol and diabetes.
Have been on LC for more than two years. Have had "protein S deficiency for a long time, maybe forever. Anyway, I was on warfarin to thin my blood before LC. After going on LC I needed to increase the amount of warfarin significantly. Like 5 mg per day. Was very steady state until I finally began to experiment with adding back in more carbs into my daily diet. Now I am seeing the amount of warfarin needed to keep my blood at the level the doc wants dropping.
Wonder if carbs affect blood density in all/most/many that way or am I just one of the lucky few?
Foods with vitamin K can affect your warfarin levels, if you fluctuate from day to day on how much you eat of those foods, but that should make you have to decrease your dose of warfarin. If you used to eat lots of food with vit K and are not now doing that, you would then have to increase your dose. Coumadin levels are a PITA to control.
Have been on LC for more than two years. Have had "protein S deficiency for a long time, maybe forever. Anyway, I was on warfarin to thin my blood before LC. After going on LC I needed to increase the amount of warfarin significantly. Like 5 mg per day. Was very steady state until I finally began to experiment with adding back in more carbs into my daily diet. Now I am seeing the amount of warfarin needed to keep my blood at the level the doc wants dropping.
Wonder if carbs affect blood density in all/most/many that way or am I just one of the lucky few?
Foods with vitamin K can affect your warfarin levels, if you fluctuate from day to day on how much you eat of those foods, but that should make you have to decrease your dose of warfarin. If you used to eat lots of food with vit K and are not now doing that, you would then have to increase your dose. Coumadin levels are a PITA to control.
Marsha/Ohio
Correction. If you eat a lot more foods with vitamin K, you may have to INCREASE your dose of warfarin. Just the opposite if you eat a lot of foods with less vitamin K.
Correction. If you eat a lot more foods with vitamin K, you may have to INCREASE your dose of warfarin. Just the opposite if you eat a lot of foods with less vitamin K.
Just a question 'cause people seem to be using the words interchangably. I thought it was warfarin when it was in rat poison and coumidin when it was a therapeutic medication for people.
Correction. If you eat a lot more foods with vitamin K, you may have to INCREASE your dose of warfarin. Just the opposite if you eat a lot of foods with less vitamin K.
Just a question 'cause people seem to be using the words interchangably. I thought it was warfarin when it was in rat poison and coumidin when it was a therapeutic medication for people.
No?
Martha
Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
yes- so all leafy greens, broccoli, are off the menu, though my husband eats them anyway and takes a higher dosage.
Green beans are about the only low carb/low k vegetable
Diane
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Correction. If you eat a lot more foods with vitamin K, you may have to INCREASE your dose of warfarin. Just the opposite if you eat a lot of foods with less vitamin K.
Just a question 'cause people seem to be using the words interchangably. I thought it was warfarin when it was in rat poison and coumidin when it was a therapeutic medication for people. No?
Martha
Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
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Wonder if carbs affect blood density in all/most/many that way or am I just one of the lucky few?
If it is a side effect could lead to some very bad symptoms for others unless looked into.
Just a thought. With what I've lost on LC, I'll live with the increased warfarin and the decreased weight, not to mention elimination of meds for cholesterol and diabetes.
I don't think it's the carbs, it may be the various nutrients that are in the foods. When you cut carbs you are eating more of some things and less of others and as you add carbs back in, the balance changes again. I think vitamin k and omega 3 PUFA can have effects on that, for ex.
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Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
Not quite. Warafin was developed in 1942 or so as a rat poison. Coumadin is a very weakened and tweaked derivative of warafin for human usage. Please, have some sense. Doctors don't prescribe rat poison.
As for adding carbs and seeing a lowering of coumadin levels...green vegetables that contain Vitamin K can increase the thinning effect in blood and can call for a readjustment of coumadin intake. If I recall, when I had my hip replacements and was taking coumadin (with blood work done 3 times a week), I was told to watch my ingestion of green leafy veggies.
Check with you doctor and not me or anybody else with an opinion here. Taking a blood thinner and asking for opinions from people on this ng is something I'd take with a big grain of salt.
Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
Not quite. Warafin was developed in 1942 or so as a rat poison. Coumadin is a very weakened and tweaked derivative of warafin for human usage. Please, have some sense. Doctors don't prescribe rat poison.
I said Coumadin is the brand name and (what is now commonly called) warfarin is the generic. See this link, which says exactly the same:
Working in an open-heart surgery office, where we prescribe Coumadin/warfarin all the time, I think I know what I'm talking about.
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Check with you doctor and not me or anybody else with an opinion here. Taking a blood thinner and asking for opinions from people on this ng is something I'd take with a big grain of salt.
I'm assuming you're telling the OP this advice, since I wasn't the one asking, but you only quoted me.
Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
Not quite. Warafin was developed in 1942 or so as a rat poison. Coumadin is a very weakened and tweaked derivative of warafin for human usage. Please, have some sense. Doctors don't prescribe rat poison.
My doctor prescribed and continues to prescribe Warfarin tabs. It is a generic of Coumadin and far less expensive.
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As for adding carbs and seeing a lowering of coumadin levels...green vegetables that contain Vitamin K can increase the thinning effect in blood and can call for a readjustment of coumadin intake. If I recall, when I had my hip replacements and was taking coumadin (with blood work done 3 times a week), I was told to watch my ingestion of green leafy veggies.
I was not asking for advice. My point was exactly the opposite. I was trying to alert those who are on LC that there may be an unexpected and possibly dangerous change in the blood. I have been on Warfarin for more years than on LC and the ebb and flow of the required levels is tied only to the change in the amount of carbs. I have a very regular intake fo proteins, fats and veggies. The only change has been in the quantity of carbs that I am ingesting.
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Check with you doctor and not me or anybody else with an opinion here. Taking a blood thinner and asking for opinions from people on this ng is something I'd take with a big grain of salt.
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Coumadin in the brand name, warfarin is the generic name.
Not quite. Warafin was developed in 1942 or so as a rat poison. Coumadin is a very weakened and tweaked derivative of warafin for human usage. Please, have some sense. Doctors don't prescribe rat poison.
It said "warfarin" on the injection bottles when they were pumping it in to me.
Hurt, too - and left totally impressive bruises. I sympathise with the rats : )
