Blood hungry dogs!

I'm a dog owner. I love my dog. That's why I keep him inside, or on a lead. I have no sympathy for
[censored] who allow their beasts to run free and harass others. Personally, I carry a short sword,
and have no compunctions about cutting these [censored] in half. And if their owners have a problem
with that, I'd happily do the same to them.

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

richard said:

While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

Richard:

Two things have worked for me in the past. The first thing that I do is yell "hey" or stop in a
stern voice, so that they understand it is a human voice and, therefore, I am not venison.

Usually that will stop them, but the second thing that I did which turned them away was a generous
squirt of the water bottle.

Kerry

"Andy Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I'm a dog owner. I love my dog. That's why I keep him inside, or on a lead. I have no sympathy for
[censored] who allow their beasts to run free and harass others. Personally, I carry a short sword,
and have no compunctions about cutting these [censored] in half. And if their owners

have

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a problem with that, I'd happily do the same to them.

I agree with your basic idea. If the dog is off-leash, and about to eat me for lunch, it is time for
drastic action. I'm not going to worry about how the dog owner will respond, or whether or not it's
humane: This is an animal attacking me for no good reason, unprovoked. In many cases, the dog could
easily kill or severely maim me or my riding companions. If I have to hurt or kill the dog(s), so be
it. I hate the thought of it; but when it comes down to me or the dog I know what I'll do. There's
just no question in my mind.

Like you, I have zero sympathy for irresponsible dog owners who let their beasts roam freely. Get a
fence or a leash, or get rid of the dog.

-Barry

I can see this being easily solved with a small chunk of lead! <grin

richard said:

While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want to
take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

We have a lot of dogs come out and cause problems, but the first thing I do is read their body
language to figure out what they want. I don't know that I've ever encountered one that wanted my
blood. Most either want me to get back into the flock or want me to get away from their property.
The hounds usually just want to come out to say "hi" and see what's going on. The biggest problem
with any of them (herders, defenders, or playmates) is that they get so enthusiastic that they get
to close and cause a crash.

All that to re-iterate: very few are really coming for blood, so the first thing to do is
not to panic.

And all that being said, we have a county-wide leash law. Members of our club have been very
agressive lately about taking addresses of dogs that leave their property and come into the road,
then calling Animal Control. This, combined with a periodic small donation for their Spay & Neuter
program has gotten quite a few problem dogs off the road.

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

I get chased by dogs every morning. I'm almost inured to it. It takes a pretty agressive one to get
me to anything other than ignore it. I normally talk to the dogs. Often, they lose interest after
hearing a voice. I've never been bitten, just chased.

Fred

Pepper spray and more pepper spray. I have zero tolerance for an off-lead canine. But I live in a
city where it's required. I've had a pooch of my own pepper sprayed by a mail carrier when she got
out. Instantly discouraged and no permanent harm done.

bb

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snip My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it
happen again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one
want to take a chunk out of me!

\

Most dogs just like to chase things that are moving fast (it's instinctive).

I suppose there are dogs that want to bite you, but most will lose interest once you are out of
their space. Think of it as a good way to get a nice jolt of adrenalin as you try to escape.

For those who would cut dogs in half with a sword or shoot them -- puh-lease!

In the past I have brandished my pump, swining it through the air like some crazed bucanneer. Kind
of a kick, really.

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

Ed Stevens said:

... And all that being said, we have a county-wide leash law. Members of our club have been very
agressive lately about taking addresses of dogs that leave their property and come into the road,
then calling Animal Control. This, combined with a periodic small donation for their Spay & Neuter
program has gotten quite a few problem dogs off the road.

I agree that spaying and neutering dog owners who let their dogs harass cyclists on public roads is
a good idea.

Tom Sherman - Near the confluence of the Mississippi and Rock Rivers

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

I'm a new bicycle commuter (7 miles, just started this week) and have had only one incident with
dogs. Two of them chased me. I wasn't too frightened and just tried to avoid them, but
unfortunately one got too close and I ran over her foot. She backed off then but neither one of us
was hurt too bad.

I was wondering if carrying dog treats and tossing them when a dog starts chasing would work?

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that would
have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these
ferocious hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to
enjoy us for lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it happen
again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had one want
to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

Bring more riding companions and weapons and counter-attack the [censored]. Drag their whimpering asses
back to the owner and chew him out, saying the dogs don't live next time.

--
Robin Hubert <[email hidden]

I don't think this is a good idea, about the treats, it teaches them that chasing is a good thing.

If you stop they loose interest fairly quickly. But really getting speed up would be good too!

What does a bike rider do when the dog doesn't chase?

take care Liz who has a dog that doesn't chase people on bikes only 4 legged animals.

Hey! Look what "Matthew" <[email hidden]> wrote :

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I'm a new bicycle commuter (7 miles, just started this week) and have had only one incident with
dogs. Two of them chased me. I wasn't too frightened and just tried to avoid them, but
unfortunately one got too close and I ran over her foot. She backed off then but neither one of us
was hurt too bad.

I was wondering if carrying dog treats and tossing them when a dog starts chasing would work?

Matthew said:

I'm a new bicycle commuter (7 miles, just started this week) and have had only one incident with
dogs. Two of them chased me. I wasn't too frightened and just tried to avoid them, but
unfortunately one got too close and I ran over her foot. She backed off then but neither one of us
was hurt too bad.

I was wondering if carrying dog treats and tossing them when a dog starts chasing would work?

The Milk Bone method always works for me, and solves the dog-on-regular-route problem every time.
Stop, call dog over (it doesn't matter if he comes - probably he will be standing off and barking,
a stable state you'll never break by coaxing), and toss a Milk Bone near enough to interest him
but not so close that it seems like you're throwing at him. Tossing most of the way to him but off
line is good.

Toss the next one closer to you.

Soon, same day or later day, you can hand it to him.

An accidental touch at some point will convince him you can be trusted to touch him.

At that point you have a friend who will sit out at the end of his driveway every day and wait for
you to stop by him with a treat. Hand him a Milk Bone and ride off if you're in a hurry, or stop and
say hello decently. It's a regular routine and a pleasant one.

I've used it on ``wild'' strays and regular hanging-around dogs.

Both you and he then participate in the ritual of commuting.
--
Ron Hardin [email hidden]

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

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Most dog owners can tell when a dog REALLY wants to bite or when barking is an invite to play or
an alert.

What about non-dog owners?

I have two dogs and one of them is an idiot (otherwise known as a too-friendly black lab) when it
comes to any traffic, whether on two wheels or four. Or perhaps we just didn't spend enough time
training him. His sister seems to understand. It doesn't matter whether he is interested in biting
you (which he isn't) or licking you (which he most definitely is) - he is going to get in your way.
If you can't avoid him (and he will walk in front of cars) you will go down.

Dogs are a danger to cyclists, whether they are racing us or trying to meet us or trying to bite
us. Improperly trained or improperly restrained, trying to bite or just to greet or play, it
doesn't matter.

App

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While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that
would have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these ferocious
hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to enjoy us for
lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it
happen again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had
one want to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!

I'm a new bicycle commuter (7 miles, just started this week) and have had only one incident with
dogs. Two of them chased me. I wasn't too frightened and just tried to avoid them, but
unfortunately one got too close and I ran over her foot. She backed off then but neither one of us
was hurt too bad.

I was wondering if carrying dog treats and tossing them when a dog starts chasing would work?

Congratulations on your commuting. As for the treats idea, if those dogs have any smarts, you will
soon have trained them to chase you.

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I can see this being easily solved with a small chunk of lead! <grin>

I suggested this was within my rights to a farmer whose dog would not let me pass. In return he
suggested to me that I wouldn't be able to exercise that right if he got to me first. Yikes!

App

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I can see this being easily solved with a small chunk of lead! <grin>

I suggested this was within my rights to a farmer whose dog would not let me pass. In return he
suggested to me that I wouldn't be able to exercise that right if he got to me first. Yikes!

Hmmm... okay, you'll be needin' two chunks of lead! 😉

after that, kids kill each other at school and people say "must their music" or "must be the
computer games" while they have 3 guns at home plus a rifle in the truck

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I can see this being easily solved with a small chunk of lead! <grin>

I suggested this was within my rights to a farmer whose dog would not let me pass. In return he
suggested to me that I wouldn't be able to exercise that right if he got to me first. Yikes!

App

No kiddin... what a bunch of pussies. ya'll scared of your own shadow too?

Yet to find a dog that could catch me.... let alone outrun me.

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"Jeff Sutton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pKW2b.24775$xf.19114@lakeread06...

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Most dogs just like to chase things that are moving fast (it's

instinctive).

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I suppose there are dogs that want to bite you, but most will lose

interest

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once you are out of their space. Think of it as a good way to get a nice jolt of adrenalin as you
try to escape.

For those who would cut dogs in half with a sword or shoot them -- puh-lease!

In the past I have brandished my pump, swining it through the air like

some

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crazed bucanneer. Kind of a kick, really.

"richard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

While on a ride through some quiet little traveld roads in southern NJ, two large dogs began
chasing me and a riding companion. I don't know what breed they were but they had fangs that
would have put "Jaws" to shame. Well, maybe I exaggerate a bit.

I didn't have pepper spray, a weapon, or a tire pump (carried CO2) to fend off these ferocious
hounds. We managed to outrun and outdistance these dogs before they were able to enjoy us for
lunch.

My question: What methods have been used by others to get out of such a situation should it
happen again? Maybe I've been lucky, but outside of having dogs bark as I pass, have never had
one want to take a chunk out of me!

Thanks for any advice given about other adventures or hair-raising dog stories!