Black toe nail

yk said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

In a couple days your toe will drop off, and that's it. nothing to
worry about.

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In a couple days your toe will drop off, and that's it. nothing to
worry about.

He meant the toenail will drop off. If the toe drops off, you've got
serious problems. =)

"yk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after
running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I
saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is
there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

No problem, they will likely fall off over time. You are only one of
many to lose a nail or two. It's the same category as a blister.

In the mean time, get a shoe that is a 1/2 size larger so it doesn't
happen again.

-Doug

yk said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

i have had this a few times in the past (and now). it comes with a lot
of long distance running. i only get it when training for half
marathons or greater. the nail gets blacker and thicker and more
brittle. i don't think the nail has ever completely come off, but over
time, with decreased running mileage (less rubbing on the toe and
nail), the nail just grew out looking normal again. in its weird
state, i just kept it trimmed and filed when rough. nothing to worry
about.... this is the badge of a runner 🙂

a shoe with more room in the toe box will prevent this from happening.

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Quoted message said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after
running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I
saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is
there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

No problem, they will likely fall off over time. You are only one of
many to lose a nail or two. It's the same category as a blister.

In the mean time, get a shoe that is a 1/2 size larger so it doesn't
happen again.

-Doug

Totally agree. I had a black toe last year, wore the same size
for years, and this year bought a new pair 1/2 size larger. My
feet never felt better.

S.

Kids are dying in Iraq, but he's right........we need to concentrate on
his toes right now.

You need to go with larger running shoes.....or smaller ones.....or nail
polish.

And more importantly cream puff.... you need to toughen up.

Bucky said:

He meant the toenail will drop off.

You REALLY don't know me very well, do you? I meant his toe will fall
off. That's why you have 10, so if one or two rot off, it's no big
deal.

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If the toe drops off, you've got
serious problems. =)

No, his toe problems are over at that point. Of course, he should have
his leprosy looked at, but that's another topic.

(Miss Anne Thrope) said:

Kids are dying in Iraq, but he's right........we need to concentrate on
his toes right now.

Because dumbass, this is a running NG, not a Iraq/war group.

Quoted message said:

You need to go with larger running shoes.....or smaller ones.....or nail
polish.

What color do you use?

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And more importantly cream puff.... you need to toughen up.

Is that your sig file? It seems like it's in every post you make...

yk said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

And BTW, every single time I've had a black toenail, the toe fell off.
Signed
Bill "three toes" Rodgers

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Quoted message said:

Iknow there was a dicussion on the black toe nail here before.
Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention. Now I found I got one after
running
a half marathon. I don't have any pain. I didn't even notice until I
saw it.
Is this something I should be worried? Is there any treatment? Is
there
anything I can do to prevent it from getting worse ? TIA

No problem, they will likely fall off over time. You are only one of
many to lose a nail or two. It's the same category as a blister.

In the mean time, get a shoe that is a 1/2 size larger so it doesn't
happen again.

-Doug

Thanks. I am glad to hear that. I still have all ten toes. ;-)
Actually I am wearing running shoes 1/2size larger than my regular shoes.
However, I recently changed shoe lacing method like this
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightfashionlacing.htm to reduce the
pressure at my instep. I was wondering if the too loose shoes might have
cased this problem.

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Quoted message said:

No problem, they will likely fall off over time. You are only one of
many to lose a nail or two. It's the same category as a blister.

In the mean time, get a shoe that is a 1/2 size larger so it doesn't
happen again.

-Doug

Thanks. I am glad to hear that. I still have all ten toes. ;-)

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Actually I am wearing running shoes 1/2size larger than my regular
shoes.

Ok but be a little careful with the sizing of running shoes as they
often differ widely in size from street shoes. Most running shoes are a
1/2 to a full size smaller. It seems that the 7 year olds that make the
shoes are not in school learniing their numbers and can't read the size
charts. 😉

As a general guide you should have about a thumb thickness of room from
your longest toe to the end of the shoe.

Quoted message said:

However, I recently changed shoe lacing method like this
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightfashionlacing.htm to reduce
the
pressure at my instep. I was wondering if the too loose shoes might
have
cased this problem.

As the web page shows there many ways to lace to alter pressure points.
For instance I never use the first set of eyelets to avoid cramping my
toes together and avoiding Morton's neuroma - a past problem. Only you
can tell if they were too loose. I don't think this lacing system has
any inherent looseness but more a mater of how and where you
tighten/pull the laces. In general you should not be able to feel your
foot slide in the shoe especially on the downhills. They say snug but
it's a vague term.

By the way, that's an excellent web page devoted to lacing. Even with
all those methods I sill use something different at the top to keep my
heel "snug." FWIW, I haven't had a black toe in 18 years and I do a bit
of steep hill running.

-Doug

Doug Freese said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No problem, they will likely fall off over time. You are only one of
many to lose a nail or two. It's the same category as a blister.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In the mean time, get a shoe that is a 1/2 size larger so it doesn't
happen again.

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-Doug

Quoted message said:

Thanks. I am glad to hear that. I still have all ten toes. ;-)
Actually I am wearing running shoes 1/2size larger than my regular
shoes.

Ok but be a little careful with the sizing of running shoes as they
often differ widely in size from street shoes. Most running shoes are a
1/2 to a full size smaller. It seems that the 7 year olds that make the
shoes are not in school learniing their numbers and can't read the size
charts. 😉

As a general guide you should have about a thumb thickness of room from
your longest toe to the end of the shoe.

Quoted message said:

However, I recently changed shoe lacing method like this
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightfashionlacing.htmto reduce
the
pressure at my instep. I was wondering if the too loose shoes might
have
cased this problem.

As the web page shows there many ways to lace to alter pressure points.
For instance I never use the first set of eyelets to avoid cramping my
toes together and avoiding Morton's neuroma - a past problem. Only you
can tell if they were too loose. I don't think this lacing system has
any inherent looseness but more a mater of how and where you
tighten/pull the laces. In general you should not be able to feel your
foot slide in the shoe especially on the downhills. They say snug but
it's a vague term.

By the way, that's an excellent web page devoted to lacing. Even with
all those methods I sill use something different at the top to keep my
heel "snug." FWIW, I haven't had a black toe in 18 years and I do a bit
of steep hill running.

-Doug

I think what "Pops" Freese is trying to say, is that different shoes
feel larger or smaller depending on how thick the padding is in the
sides and bottom, the shape can restrict toebox room too. If you buy
two pairs of size 9's, one very cheap with no inserts (you know the
$9.99 specials that are flat on the bottom, with no support, and thin
walls, and then buy a well made, $50 pair of shoes, and when you ad in
the padded sides, and the inserts for arch supports, it makes the same
size shoe feel like two different sizes. Both maybe built on 9" lasts,
but one is actually a size 8 due to the quality design.
You're very welcome

Doug Freese said:

They say snug but
it's a vague term.

When you and Donnie are showering together, and he's doing you with a
gatorade bottle, and he pushes it up there until you scream, that's
snug. No longer vague, is it?