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  1. From what I can tell, Riis is a brilliant directeur. Tyler has spoken in the past about how the Dane
    has been instrumental in planning his training regimen and setting goals. Today, he notes that,
    "Bjarne reminded of us of the stage in 1996 to Jaca after Hautacam, where the last 100km were flat
    and he put 8 minutes into Indurain and Rominger." CSC has now bagged three stages (so far), two GC
    top ten riders, and the overall teams classification.

    Looking back a bit, Jaja closed out his career at CSC with two very successful Tours-de-France,
    focusing wisely on stages and the KOM jersey.

    If I were a promising young thing like Basso or Popovych, I would be beating down that man's door.

    JMS

  2. JMS said:

    From what I can tell, Riis is a brilliant directeur. Tyler has spoken in the past about how the
    Dane has been instrumental in planning his training regimen and setting goals. Today, he notes
    that, "Bjarne reminded of us of the stage in 1996 to Jaca after Hautacam, where the last 100km
    were flat and he put 8 minutes into Indurain and Rominger." CSC has now bagged three stages (so
    far), two GC top ten riders, and the overall teams classification.

    Looking back a bit, Jaja closed out his career at CSC with two very successful Tours-de-France,
    focusing wisely on stages and the KOM jersey.

    If I were a promising young thing like Basso or Popovych, I would be beating down that man's door.

    Scary to think what Ullrich could have done if the CSC deal had gone through.

  3. "amy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JMS said:

    From what I can tell, Riis is a brilliant directeur. Tyler has spoken in the past about how the
    Dane has been instrumental in planning his training regimen and setting goals. Today, he notes
    that, "Bjarne reminded of us of the stage in 1996 to Jaca after Hautacam, where the last 100km
    were flat and he put 8 minutes into Indurain and Rominger." CSC has now bagged three stages (so
    far), two GC top ten riders, and the overall teams classification.

    Looking back a bit, Jaja closed out his career at CSC with two very successful Tours-de-France,
    focusing wisely on stages and the KOM jersey.

    If I were a promising young thing like Basso or Popovych, I would be beating down that
    man's door.

    Scary to think what Ullrich could have done if the CSC deal had gone through.

    During the (very long) time Ullrich was negotiating with CSC for a contract, Lance Armstrong was
    quoted as suggesting that, if he were Ullrich, that he would have joined CSC for free. Considering
    how much Jan gets from other endorsements, I would have to have agreed with him. Sign a 1 year deal
    with CSC for nothing or a neo's salary and then talk money the following year when he had recovered
    his career. No doubt he's on the way back up (and I, for one am glad for him). However, it would
    have been interesting with Riis as his coach and riders like Sastre and Hamilton as team-mates.

    John Rees

  4. Roger Bogda said:

    in the peleton was Mr. 60....due to the fact that his hemocratic level was
    60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    Widely claimed but never substantiated. And likely physiologically impossible...blood would be too
    viscous to perfuse muscle tissue. Dr. Peter Janssen states its blatantly untrue in his book Lactate
    Threshold Training.

  5. Roger Bogda said:

    While it is admirable what he has done with CSC, I did not think much of him the year he won the
    Tour. He appears to have made a point of dropping Indurain on the stage in Mig's home territory, a
    true champion would have made sure Mig was there by his side. If you review the stage, he
    repeatedly attacked the leading group even though he was way in the lead. I was speaking to a
    former Dutch pro yesterday and he mentioned Bjarne's nickname in the peleton was Mr. 60....due to
    the fact that his hemocratic level was
    60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    If he'd waited for Mig on the road to Pamplona, he might well have lost the race, since Mig was
    touring and came in 8.30 behind. Waiting would have put him in 9th 4.31 behind Virenque. As it was,
    he waited for his lieutenant to offer him the stage and then had to sprint to catch Dufaux at the
    line (came up short) after the lieutenant couldn't muster the initiative to go for it.

    HOwever, if you want to get annoyed about Riis, search out his comments following the decision to
    turn the stage 16 in 1995 into a memorial ride with no results.

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    Roger B

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    P.S.: Delgado's nickname was Testo, apparently a reference to his use of testosterone

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    Quoted message said:

    From what I can tell, Riis is a brilliant directeur. Tyler has spoken in the past about how the
    Dane has been instrumental in planning his training regimen and setting goals. Today, he notes
    that, "Bjarne reminded of us of the stage in 1996 to Jaca after Hautacam, where the last 100km
    were flat and he put 8 minutes into Indurain and Rominger." CSC has now bagged three stages (so
    far), two GC top ten riders, and the overall teams classification.

    Looking back a bit, Jaja closed out his career at CSC with two very successful Tours-de-France,
    focusing wisely on stages and the KOM jersey.

    If I were a promising young thing like Basso or Popovych, I would be beating down that
    man's door.

    JMS

  6. Roger Bogda said:

    While it is admirable what he has done with CSC, I did not think much of him the year he won the
    Tour. He appears to have made a point of dropping Indurain on the stage in Mig's home territory, a
    true champion would have made sure Mig was there by his side. If you review the stage, he
    repeatedly attacked the leading group even though he was way in the lead.

    Yes try that you will see that he is trying to pull Big Mig up a to the virenque/defaux group
    serveral times, he tried just that to make sure that Indurain was by his side so by your own words
    he was a true champion!

    Quoted message said:

    speaking to a former Dutch pro yesterday and he mentioned Bjarne's nickname in the peleton was Mr.
    60....due to the fact that his hemocratic level was
    60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    Thats another story from the same era of cycling

    regards Anders

  7. John Rees said:


    During the (very long) time Ullrich was negotiating with CSC for a contract, Lance Armstrong was
    quoted as suggesting that, if he were Ullrich, that he would have joined CSC for free. Considering
    how much Jan gets from other endorsements, I would have to have agreed with him. Sign a 1 year deal
    with CSC for nothing or a neo's salary and then talk money the following year when he had recovered
    his career.

    Well thats almost sounds like LA comback career and it worked pretty good for him. Ulrich is back on
    the right track so it was not the only way it could be done.

    regards Anders

  8. Quoted message said:
    Roger Bogda said:

    in the peleton was Mr. 60....due to the fact that his hemocratic level was
    60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    Widely claimed but never substantiated. And likely physiologically impossible...blood would be too
    viscous to perfuse muscle tissue. Dr. Peter Janssen states its blatantly untrue in his book
    Lactate Threshold Training.

    Indeed, but he did return a level of 56.3% on the rest day in the Tour in 1995.

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Roger Bogda said:

    in the peleton was Mr. 60....due to the fact that his hemocratic level


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    Widely claimed but never substantiated. And likely physiologically impossible...blood would be
    too viscous to perfuse muscle tissue.

    While blood viscosity does increase with hematocrit, 60% probably isn't high enough for the increase
    to be a truly significant factor.

    Andy Coggan

  10. I had a crit of 56 for a while. My doctor thought it serious enough that I had a couple of
    phlebotemies (blood letting sans leeches) to get it down. BTW, that was several months AFTER I
    stopped taking EPO, but that's another story...

    "Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Quoted message said:
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    Roger Bogda <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >in the peleton was Mr. 60....due to the fact that his hemocratic level


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >60..this was in the days before the 50% rule.

    Widely claimed but never substantiated. And likely physiologically impossible...blood would be
    too viscous to perfuse muscle tissue.

    While blood viscosity does increase with hematocrit, 60% probably isn't


    high

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    enough for the increase to be a truly significant factor.

    Andy Coggan

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  11. (JMS) said:

    From what I can tell, Riis is a brilliant directeur. Tyler has spoken in the past about how the
    Dane has been instrumental in planning his training regimen and setting goals. Today, he notes
    that, "Bjarne reminded of us of the stage in 1996 to Jaca after Hautacam, where the last 100km were
    flat and he put 8 minutes into Indurain and Rominger." CSC has now bagged three stages (so far),
    two GC top ten riders, and the overall teams classification.

    Looking back a bit, Jaja closed out his career at CSC with two very successful Tours-de-France,
    focusing wisely on stages and the KOM jersey.

    If I were a promising young thing like Basso or Popovych, I would be beating down that man's door.

    Basso is not a "promising young thing", but just the next eternal runner-up. The guy hasn't win
    anything important and he never will. He lacks winning mentality. Although he's presently racing
    with a great motivator on the car, that Giancarlo Ferretti who is famous for transforming long time
    domestiques in racers eager to walk the finish line on the 1st place. Well, it seems that Ferretti
    is completely unsatisfied of the way IB is racing and that he will probably sack him at the end of
    this season.

  12. "Stewart Fleming" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Indeed, but he did return a level of 56.3% on the rest day in the Tour in 1995.

    Can you indicate the source of this information, as it is new to me - and
    in the light of all the fuss there has been here in Denmark about Bjarnes
    victory and alleged use of EPO it would be very interesting to hear about.

    - Mikkel

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