Bit Torrent and T. de F?

s said:

Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de France programmes
(ideally with Liggett/Sherwen commentary) and then seeding them as video
files available through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on http://www.suprnova.org/ and haven't
been able to find anything.

Best regards, and thanks for any pointers

I see a bunch of tour de france stuff in newsgroups.

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7/4/2004
12:52 PM [GMT-8]

s said:

Hello All,

Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de France programmes
(ideally with Liggett/Sherwen commentary) and then seeding them as video
files available through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on http://www.suprnova.org/ and haven't
been able to find anything.

Best regards, and thanks for any pointers,

Steve Pells
Edinburgh, UK

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Kenny Lee

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked about the
DVD recordings I was making) that it would require a minimum of
around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport
coverage of le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really feasible,
never mind the very real issues of copright violation ...

Philip Taylor

Philip TAYLOR PC87S/O-XP said:

Quoted message said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked about the
DVD recordings I was making) that it would require a minimum of
around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport
coverage of le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really feasible,
never mind the very real issues of copright violation ...

What he's asking about is entirely practical, it's already being done
for lots of TV broadcast stuff.

There is no need for DVD quality when watching this kind of coverage,
with divX and similar encoding methods the file sizes are perfectly
manageable.

You can currently download all sorts of TV programs, both the very
latest new stuff (such as american shows not yet aired in UK) and
vintage stuff too. P2P networks like Bit Torrent and, my personal
preference, usenet binary groups work very well.

Granted, the Tour would mean several hours coverage a day so it would
be fairly demanding, but nothing spectacularly outrageous.

For people who choose this method of delivery it's perfectly common to
download several gigs of data a day. *shrug*
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Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked about the
DVD recordings I was making) that it would require a minimum of
around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport
coverage of le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really feasible,
never mind the very real issues of copright violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at least). Every Euro
'04 game for example was made available the day it was broadcast. A football
match is upwards of 90 minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB).
How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a broadband connection a
reasonably-popular TV programme file of this size downloads in a few
hours-it's finished before you get up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride themselves on their
technical expertise, find a project
beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no trouble with.
Perhaps I should have posted on rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells,
Edinburgh, UK

I've recorded the past few TdFs to digital tape, editing out the
commercials.

This year, I'm thinking of going straight to DVD and skipping the
digital tape. Right now, I have stages 1 & 2 on my HDD taking up 65
gigs in DV format. I'm encoding stage 1 to MPEG2 right now to fit on a
single DVD-R. It should take about 15 hours.

I download DVDs all the time. It's not a big deal if you have cable
modem.

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Kenny Lee

Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were seeded.

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Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a 3
hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard
up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing
to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked about the
DVD recordings I was making) that it would require a minimum of
around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport
coverage of le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really feasible,
never mind the very real issues of copright violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at least). Every Euro
'04 game for example was made available the day it was broadcast. A football
match is upwards of 90 minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB).
How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a broadband connection a
reasonably-popular TV programme file of this size downloads in a few
hours-it's finished before you get up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride themselves on their
technical expertise, find a project
beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no trouble with.
Perhaps I should have posted on rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells,
Edinburgh, UK

Yes!

And stage 5 has been seeded as well...

Many thanks to those seeding files!

Cheers

Steve

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Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were seeded.

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Kenny Lee wrote:

> Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment. About a

3

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> hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading such a huge file
> would take a lot of time and then to have it spread all through the

P2P

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Quoted message said:

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> networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
> download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
> downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm

hard

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be

willing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a

constant

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked about the
DVD recordings I was making) that it would require a minimum of
around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport
coverage of le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really feasible,
never mind the very real issues of copright violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at least). Every

Euro

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'04 game for example was made available the day it was broadcast. A

football

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

match is upwards of 90 minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700

MB).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a broadband

connection a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reasonably-popular TV programme file of this size downloads in a few
hours-it's finished before you get up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride themselves on their
technical expertise, find a project
beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no trouble with.
Perhaps I should have posted on rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells,
Edinburgh, UK

Quoted message said:

And stage 5 has been seeded as well...

Many thanks to those seeding files!

Cheers

Steve

Could someone post a quick note on how to
view the torrent? I'm running Mac OSX.
Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

Thanks,
Jeff

(Jeff) said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to
view the torrent? I'm running Mac OSX.
Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent is a peer 2
peer type network, you'll need a bt client to access it. You can then
search for what you want, download and watch/listen/play whatever.

There are many clients available (google is your friend) but Azureus
is popular. It seems they also do an OS X version, which I think is
you Mac lot?

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
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Quoted message said:

(Jeff) said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to
view the torrent? I'm running Mac OSX.
Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent is a peer 2
peer type network, you'll need a bt client to access it. You can then
search for what you want, download and watch/listen/play whatever.

There are many clients available (google is your friend) but Azureus
is popular. It seems they also do an OS X version, which I think is
you Mac lot?

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Really weird geeky stuff, BETTER answered in
the dweeb forums, not RBR:

"BitTorrent is a noncommercial protocol for sharing large files and
filesets. It's super easy to use. BitTorrentDownloads are started just
by clicking on small .torrent files or hyperlinks. Downloaders get
pieces of the fileset from the original server, and from anyone else
who is downloading. The more people there are downloading the same
thing, the lower the burden on the central server, and the faster
everyone's downloads get, due to sharing with each other. The more,
the merrier!"

Later, Ken (not really a l33t haxxor)

More,
"Below is a list of common file types you will encounter with
BitTorrent, and how to handle them. Please be aware that the best way
to identify file types is by their extension. For example, a file
named ReallyCoolStuff.zip ends in .zip which is a clue that you should
open the program in WinZip, or something equivalent."

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff

Quoted message said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to
view the torrent? I'm running Mac OSX.
Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

To find almost any Mac app, go to versiontracker and use the search.

http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/