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  1. When you ask about Biscuits , most of us Americans think of
    it as a light homebaked individual roll/biscuit. (It is
    occasionally used with gravy, but I never have). It is
    usually dressed with butter and honey, or jam. It has been
    compared , here, with scones, but IMO biscuits are much
    lighter and tender than scones. Don't mean to tread on
    anyone's toes here, but when I travel in England and have
    afternoon tea, I always request that they replace the scone
    with another crumpet. I find scones very dry and unappetizing--
    even at the best hotels and tea shops. One exception, when I
    was in the country at a little place, and the scones were
    hot out of the oven. Here, in America, biscuits are
    available ready made for home baking--they come refrigerated
    in cardboard tubes. The "Flaky" kind are especially good
    and, well, flaky.

  2. Nancree said:

    When you ask about Biscuits , most of us Americans think
    of it as a light homebaked individual roll/biscuit.

    Here, in America, biscuits are available ready

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    made for home baking--they come refrigerated in
    cardboard tubes. The "Flaky" kind are especially good
    and, well, flaky.

    Don't you dare compare refrigerated in cardboard (yeah,
    that's the word) tube biscuits as "especially good". Geez,
    have you never had great hand patted buttermilk flaky
    biscuits? For shame 🙂

    Jill

  3. Nancree said:

    Here, in America, biscuits are available ready made for
    home baking--they come refrigerated in cardboard tubes.
    The "Flaky" kind are especially good and, well, flaky.

    Don't you dare equate "canned biscuits" with the true
    biscuit! That is a blasphemy far greater than even Sheldon
    himself could utter...

    ~john

  4. "Levelwave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Nancree said:

    Here, in America, biscuits are available ready made
    for home


    baking--they

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    come refrigerated in cardboard tubes. The "Flaky" kind
    are especially


    good

    Quoted message said:
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    and, well, flaky.

    Don't you dare equate "canned biscuits" with the true
    biscuit! That is a blasphemy far greater than even Sheldon
    himself could utter...

    ~john


    Blasphemy! Sheldon is thy name!

  5. Nancree said:

    Don't mean to tread on anyone's toes here, but when I
    travel in England and have afternoon tea, I always
    request that they replace the scone with another
    crumpet. I find scones very dry and unappetizing--even
    at the best hotels and tea shops.

    The cafeteria ladies at the Caterpillar plant in Mossville,
    Illinois make scones that are positively addicting.

    --Blair "Best BLT I ever
    had, too."

  6. "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Nancree said:

    Don't mean to tread on anyone's toes here, but when
    I travel in


    England

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    and have afternoon tea, I always request that they
    replace the scone with another crumpet. I find scones
    very dry and unappetizing--even at the


    best

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    hotels and tea shops.

    The cafeteria ladies at the Caterpillar plant in
    Mossville, Illinois make scones that are positively
    addicting.

    --Blair "Best BLT I ever had, too."

    I thought the Research Center was in Mossville-not a
    "plant".

  7. James A. Finley said:


    "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Nancree said:

    Don't mean to tread on anyone's toes here, but when
    I travel in


    England

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    and have afternoon tea, I always request that they
    replace the scone with another crumpet. I find scones
    very dry and unappetizing--even at the


    best

    Quoted message said:
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    hotels and tea shops.

    The cafeteria ladies at the Caterpillar plant in
    Mossville, Illinois make scones that are positively
    addicting.

    "Best BLT I ever had, too."

    I thought the Research Center was in Mossville-not a
    "plant".

    The CAT site in Mossville is roughly a square mile in
    size on two nearby parcels. The building I'm in is about
    a hundred yards on a side and is completely *inside*
    another building.

    There's probably a "Research Center" somewhere around there,
    but they could hide an FRB in one of these edifices, and
    probably have 5 or 6 cafeterias.

    So I used "plant" figuratively, because one word did.

    --Blair "Hint to next
    heckler: I'm not talking
    about vegetation."

  8. "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    James A. Finley said:


    "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Nancree <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > Don't mean to tread on anyone's toes here, but
    > when I travel in


    England

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    >and have afternoon tea, I always request that they
    >replace the scone


    with

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >another crumpet. I find scones very dry and unappetizing--
    >even at the


    best

    Quoted message said:

    >hotels and tea shops.

    The cafeteria ladies at the Caterpillar plant in
    Mossville, Illinois make scones that are positively
    addicting.

    "Best BLT I ever had, too."

    I thought the Research Center was in Mossville-not a
    "plant".

    The CAT site in Mossville is roughly a square mile in size
    on two nearby parcels. The building I'm in is about a
    hundred yards on a side and is completely *inside* another
    building.

    There's probably a "Research Center" somewhere around
    there, but they could hide an FRB in one of these
    edifices, and probably have 5 or 6 cafeterias.

    So I used "plant" figuratively, because one word did.

    --Blair "Hint to next heckler: I'm not talking about
    vegetation."

    Actually, it was called the Tech Center back in the 60's.
    The cafeteria had a great pork tenderloin.

  9. James A. Finley said:

    "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    James A. Finley said:


    "Blair P. Houghton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Nancree <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > > Don't mean to tread on anyone's toes here, but
    > > when I travel in
    England
    > >and have afternoon tea, I always request that they
    > >replace the scone


    with

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    > >another crumpet. I find scones very dry and unappetizing--
    > >even at the
    best
    > >hotels and tea shops.
    >
    > The cafeteria ladies at the Caterpillar plant in
    > Mossville, Illinois make scones that are positively
    > addicting.
    >
    > "Best BLT I ever had, too."

    I thought the Research Center was in Mossville-not a
    "plant".

    The CAT site in Mossville is roughly a square mile in
    size on two nearby parcels. The building I'm in is about
    a hundred yards on a side and is completely *inside*
    another building.

    There's probably a "Research Center" somewhere around
    there, but they could hide an FRB in one of these
    edifices, and probably have 5 or 6 cafeterias.

    So I used "plant" figuratively, because one word did.

    Actually, it was called the Tech Center back in the 60's.
    The cafeteria had a great pork tenderloin.

    The Tech Center is still on the NW chunk of property. The
    other part has chemical, logistical, electrical-engineering,
    and I belive engine assembly.

    I had the pasta today. Totally pedestrian. You're right
    about pork tenderloin*, Illinoinians have that nailed. But
    what passes for "Italian Sausage" around here is flavorless,
    textureless, and looks like something I'd get in bulk at
    Petsmart for my dog.

    --Blair "Like a crapshoot
    with real [censored]."

    * - boneless pork loin chop pounded flat, thin, and as big
    as a plate, then breaded, deep-fried to picture-perfect
    golden brown, and served on a bun with lettuce, pickle,
    and whatever else you want. The bun is usually slightly
    smaller than a standard hamburger bun, to make the
    frisbeelike proportion of the tenderloin look even more
    insane. These people know their way around a fry-o-lator,
    that's fer sher.

  10. Blair P. Houghton said:

    You're right about pork tenderloin*, Illinoinians have
    that nailed.

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    * - boneless pork loin chop pounded flat, thin, and as big
    as a plate, then breaded, deep-fried to picture-perfect
    golden brown,

    That's more of an Iowa speciality.

    Brian Rodenborn

  11. notbob said:


    On 2004-03-31, Socks <[email hidden]> wrote:

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    allenbukoff.comwildBPTiowa03

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    Looks pretty damn tasty to me! 🙂

    (laughing) Okay, I had a nightmare the other night, probably
    something one of you guys said. My lobster taco was still
    alive after I pulled it out of a toaster. Was crawling
    around. Okay, it was a dream, I am not responsible.

    That picture looks like the pork chop is trying to get out
    of that sandwich.

    nancy

  12. Default User said:
    Blair P. Houghton said:

    You're right about pork tenderloin*, Illinoinians have
    that nailed.

    Quoted message said:

    * - boneless pork loin chop pounded flat, thin, and as
    big as a plate, then breaded, deep-fried to picture-
    perfect golden brown,

    That's more of an Iowa speciality.

    Actually, I had it in Iowa, two weeks ago, and they
    bollixed it.

    --Blair "I don't know about
    you, but where they get
    theirs, they don't come
    seasoned."

  13. Blair P. Houghton said:

    The Tenderloin belt probably runs from central Iowa
    through central Illinois and central Indiana. There are
    pig farms all over the place out here.

    It makes it north in Southern MN as well, I've seen the
    Pork Tenderloin decently prepared in both Austin and
    Pipestone, MN.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta [email hidden]
    kaszeta.orgrich

  14. Blair P. Houghton said:

    The Tenderloin belt probably runs from central Iowa
    through central Illinois and central Indiana. There are
    pig farms all over the place out here.

    And Germany. When I was there about 10 years ago I had lunch
    in a fast-food kind of place called "Mega Schnitzel" which
    basically served a deep fried pork tenderloin as you have
    been describing. I think it was a restaurant chain.

    Bill Ranck Blacksburg, Va.

  15. Richard Kaszeta said:


    Blair P. Houghton said:

    The Tenderloin belt probably runs from central Iowa
    through central Illinois and central Indiana. There are
    pig farms all over the place out here.

    It makes it north in Southern MN as well, I've seen the
    Pork Tenderloin decently prepared in both Austin and
    Pipestone, MN.

    Restaurants in Missouri make them as well. I haven't had one
    in a while, now I'm really starting to get a hankering!

    Brian Rodenborn

  16. Default User said:
    Richard Kaszeta said:
    Blair P. Houghton said:

    The Tenderloin belt probably runs from central Iowa
    through central Illinois and central Indiana. There are
    pig farms all over the place out here.

    It makes it north in Southern MN as well, I've seen the
    Pork Tenderloin decently prepared in both Austin and
    Pipestone, MN.

    Restaurants in Missouri make them as well. I haven't had
    one in a while, now I'm really starting to get a
    hankering!

    Brian Rodenborn

    Hi ho, hi ho - its off to the market I go!

    jim

  17. Socks said:

    we live in the internet age, and google is amazing:

    "Valley House Restaurant

    10767 Woodside Avenue (at Magnolia), Santee, 619-562-7878.
    This is for Cornbelt folks, plus wannabes who enjoy plain-
    speaking, plenty-of-it Iowan food. Take the morning
    special, "Iowa Breakfast": breaded pork tenderloin, two
    eggs, and hash browns, fries, or grits, plus a choice of
    biscuits, muffins, or toast -- it's delicious. Lunch or
    dinnertime you can't go wrong ordering the signature "Iowa
    Porker" hot sandwich (breaded pork tenderloin in a bun
    with soup, potato salad, or steak fries) or the "Iowa
    Beefers" (seasoned ground beef simmered in chicken broth,
    piled into a burger bun). Open three meals, seven days.
    Inexpensive. -- E.B. (8/01)"

    sdreader.comrrglist.php3

    but maps.yahoo.com says that it is 92 miles from my
    house ...

    Hmmm....the menu sure sounds like the restaurant I remember,
    but it was definitely NOT at Magnolia. It might have moved
    in the four years since I've been there, but in that case,
    it's also changed its name: I would have remembered "Valley
    House," because my San Diego phone number was a transposed
    digit away from a restaurant named "Pine Valley House," and
    I'd get phone calls for them all the time.

    Now, I don't know how the rest of you deal with wrong
    numbers, but I would always politely tell the callers that
    they had the wrong number. And about a third of the time
    after I told them, my phone would ring AGAIN, ten seconds
    later; the imbecile would have dialed THE SAME NUMBER and
    somehow expected the call to magically go somewhere else
    this time.

    So at that point, I figured that they owed me some
    entertainment, and I'd have fun: When the phone rang that
    second time, I'd pick it up and say, "Pine Valley House, can
    I help you?" I'd tell people, "Sure, bring your party of
    twelve, we'll be all set up for you." Or, "The refrigerator
    broke down two days ago and we haven't got anything fresh,
    but if you don't mind that, we're still cooking." My all-
    time whopper was when I asked, "Excuse me, will this be a
    party of Filipinos and Hispanics? You don't sound white
    enough for me to take your reservation."

    Oh, the memories...

    Bob

  18. Nancy Dooley said:


    No true tenderloin has cheese, not even as an option.

    Usual condiments are mustard, pickle & onion. Some
    renegades put ketchup on them.

    I think anywhere here in Iowa-Illinois-Nebraska-maybe
    Indiana could be called "tenderloin country." I don't know
    about our northern neighbors - Barb, are they easy to find
    in Minnesota?

    You just buy boneless pork loin cutlets - pound the
    bejiggers out of them until they're thin and flat -
    bread them however you like - I usually use very, very
    fine cracker crumbs - deep fry - serve on a round bun.
    To die for.

    N.

    I grew up in western Illinois and they used to be an
    actually a piece of Pork Tenderloin that was pounded flat
    and cooked on a griddle they were NOT breaded and deep
    fried, that didn't start to happen until the late 1960's.

    Dill pickles and Mustard were the condiments used, if I ever
    saw ketchup on one I would have sent it back thinking it
    must still be bleeding and wasn't done!

    Later, BobSlo

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    Nancy Dooley said:


    No true tenderloin has cheese, not even as an option.

    Usual condiments are mustard, pickle & onion. Some
    renegades put ketchup on them.

    I think anywhere here in Iowa-Illinois-Nebraska-maybe
    Indiana could be called "tenderloin country." I don't
    know about our northern neighbors - Barb, are they easy
    to find in Minnesota?

    You just buy boneless pork loin cutlets - pound the
    bejiggers out of them until they're thin and flat -
    bread them however you like - I usually use very, very
    fine cracker crumbs - deep fry - serve on a round bun.
    To die for.

    N.

    I grew up in western Illinois and they used to be an
    actually a piece of Pork Tenderloin that was pounded flat
    and cooked on a griddle they were


    NOT

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    breaded and deep fried, that didn't start to happen until
    the late 1960's.

    Dill pickles and Mustard were the condiments used, if I
    ever saw ketchup


    on

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    one I would have sent it back thinking it must still be
    bleeding and wasn't done!

    Later, BobSlo

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    Dill pickles for sure, but I grew up with ketchup on them,
    not mustard.

    --
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    Road Bedford, MA 01730 Voice: (781) 271-8399 Cell: (978) 290-
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    So at that point, I figured that they owed me some
    entertainment, and I'd have fun: When the phone rang that
    second time, I'd pick it up and say, "Pine Valley House,
    can I help you?" I'd tell people, "Sure, bring your party
    of twelve, we'll be all set up for you." Or, "The
    refrigerator


    broke

    Quoted message said:

    down two days ago and we haven't got anything fresh, but
    if you don't mind that, we're still cooking." My all-time
    whopper was when I asked, "Excuse me, will this be a party
    of Filipinos and Hispanics? You don't sound white enough
    for me to take your reservation."

    Oh, the memories...

    Bob


    My parent's phone number is one digit away from a local taxi
    company. I do not remember how many cabs I dispatched at
    3:00am when I was a teen ager. Some of those people may
    still be waiting for a ride.

    --
    Tank

    This Space To Let. Corner of Walk & Don't Walk.

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