Birthday dilemma

LC cheesecake.

Pork Rind Cake.

Neither of those will result in water weight gain, but you can eat too much.

Mark McArthey said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've
always made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course
has varied depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black
forest cherry cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one
time a year. The problem is that I'm having a hard time with the
decision this year. Back in January I had decided that if I was
about 220 I would allow myself my birthday meal. My birthday is
April 3 (will be 35) and I will probably make my goal. I'm excited
about that, obviously, but now that I'm presented with the reality of
going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out of ketosis, and
probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit, water), I'm
not so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point.
I know about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I
haven't cheated at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly,
it will affect me. I suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll
have to start back in induction again? Not an entertaining prospect.
Unless someone has a good LC Black Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just
looking for some constructive comments and what everyone else has
done in similar situations. I've been to a number of parties and
haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit different. Anyone with
some personal experience similar to this?
Thanks for any ideas,
Mark

Modern research has determined that "Birthday Cake", ie: A highly
decorated sweet flour/fat/sugar based dessert, generally festooned with
YOUR name, has NO CALORIES, NO CARBS, AND NO FAT.

Shocking? Sure.

But it appears, the joy felt once a year when we eat a piece of this
comestible surrounded by our loved ones immediately dissipates all
CALORIES, CARBS AND FAT!

There are a few important caveats:

1. It must be YOUR birthday.

2. You must only have ONE birthday a year.

3. Cake must be consumed AFTER appropriate musical accompaniment ("Happy
Birthday" or "For He/She's a Jolly Good Fellow/Person" or the like).

4. Candles, while low carb, low calorie and low fat must NOT be
consumed... especially when lit.

5. BEWARE! Foods consumed before and after cake maintain their original
carb, fat and calorie count.

This has been brought to you as a public service announcement.

Jennifer

Yes, the "Ice Cream AND Cake" variable was addressed in the study.

Should "Ice Cream AND Cake" be consumed, as separate items, each will
release HALF of it's calories, carbs and fats. So an option would be to
only eat the HALF that is now CCF-FREE. Determining which half is now
CCF-FREE is easy... it's the half closest to you.

As for an "Ice Cream Cake" ie: Baskin Robbins/Haggan Daz/Carvel... normal
sized slices fall under the original CCF-FREE study and can be consumed
with pleasure.

Hope that clears it up.

Mark McArthey said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've always
made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has varied
depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black forest cherry
cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a year. The
problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this year. Back in
January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow myself my
birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will probably make
my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm presented with
the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out of ketosis,
and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit, water), I'm not
so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point. I know
about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I haven't cheated
at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will affect me. I
suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start back in induction
again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good LC Black
Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some constructive comments and
what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to a number of
parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit different. Anyone
with some personal experience similar to this?
Thanks for any ideas,
Mark

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

LC cheesecake.

Pork Rind Cake.

Neither of those will result in water weight gain, but you can eat too
much.

Thanks for the ideas. I think I'll see if I can find a decent chocolate
cake recipe and just make up some sort of equivalent. LC whipped cream is
easy, and I can get frozen cherries that are unsweetened. The only other
major ingredient is the kirschwasser and the nutrition information is here:
http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc564.html
If I don't have any other carbs that day, given that I can have about 50g of
carbs, I should be perfectly fine if I just have a piece.
Once I figure out the recipe and the carb counts, I'll be sure to post a
recipe here.
I think I had already decided I wasn't going off the diet, but I just needed
to think out loud about it. 🙂 I'm too invested in this weight loss thing
to let my birthday screw it up. I want to feel good about turning another
year older. LOL

Thanks!
Mark

"Jennifer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Modern research has determined that "Birthday Cake", ie: A highly
decorated sweet flour/fat/sugar based dessert, generally festooned with
YOUR name, has NO CALORIES, NO CARBS, AND NO FAT.

LOL! Thanks for the laugh! I think the trick is the fact that it has my
name on it. 🙂

Mark

Your way of eating should enhance your life, not interfere with it.
Birthdays are special days. If you want a special treat for your
special day, go for it. Just don't use it as an excuse to go off your
diet for more than that day! Enjoy your birthday, go back on the diet
the next day.

FYI most diets fail because people can't stick to them. Nowadays,
people designing diet plans are adding "planned cheats" or "free
meals" to give people the psychological break they need to stick to
the diet all the other time. Knowing that you can occasionally "let
yourself go" makes it a lot easier to stick with the plan the rest of
the time. Also, the occasional shock to your system might actually
*help* you lose weight!

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

LC cheesecake.

Pork Rind Cake.

Neither of those will result in water weight gain, but you can eat too
much.

I thought I had solved my problem with some powdered Erythritol, but it's
not available from the manufacturer for some reason. It's the only sugar
alcohol that hasn't bothered me. It's listed that way at the couple of
sites I found it. *sigh* I'll keep looking.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/carbsmart/poweryth.html

Mark

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark McArthey said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've always
made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has varied
depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black forest cherry
cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a year. The
problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this year. Back in
January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow myself my
birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will probably make
my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm presented with
the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out of ketosis,
and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit, water), I'm not
so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point. I know
about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I haven't cheated
at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will affect me. I
suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start back in induction
again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good LC Black
Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some constructive comments and
what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to a number of
parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit different. Anyone
with some personal experience similar to this?
Thanks for any ideas,
Mark

Hey! I just posted about an article I read about a trend in restaurants
serving mini-desserts. Maybe you could do mini cakes! 2 or 3 bite
portions, one little cake for each guest.

Here's a link to the front page with a picture of these cute little
desserts: http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/index.html

To read the whole article you'd have to register. Personally, I think
mini-cakes would be the perfect solution to your dilemma. You'd get the
flavor you want, but the portion is so small it most likely won't
interfere at all with your dieting efforts, plus they're so darn cute
they're perfect for a party.

Mark McArthey said:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

LC cheesecake.

Pork Rind Cake.

Neither of those will result in water weight gain, but you can eat
too much.

I thought I had solved my problem with some powdered Erythritol, but
it's not available from the manufacturer for some reason. It's the
only sugar alcohol that hasn't bothered me. It's listed that way at
the couple of sites I found it. *sigh* I'll keep looking.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/carbsmart/poweryth.html

Mark

You cannot use splenda or one of the liquid syrup bases?

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've always
made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has varied
depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black forest cherry
cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a year. The
problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this year.

The chances are (and I know from experience) that the build up to
_______________ (insert whatever "treat" here) will leave you with a feeling
of, "Why?", or at least, "What was the big fuss over? It wasn't anything
like I remembered." Then you are disappointed, plus knocked out of ketosis,
and for what?

Most treats I hankered for never lived up to my built up expectations of
them...with the exception of a well cooked meal of prime rib.

Lisa

you are smart to get started now.....................between all the
great cooks in here you will have a birthday dinner AND cake that
will "knock your socks off"

--
rosie

http://www.commonsensemom.com/

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but
we've always
: made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has
varied
: depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black forest
cherry
: cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a
year. The
: problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this
year. Back in
: January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow myself
my
: birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will
probably make
: my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm
presented with
: the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out
of ketosis,
: and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit,
water), I'm not
: so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point.
I know
: about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I
haven't cheated
: at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will affect
me. I
: suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start back in
induction
: again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good
LC Black
: Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some constructive
comments and
: what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to a
number of
: parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit
different. Anyone
: with some personal experience similar to this?
: Thanks for any ideas,
: Mark
: --
: 260/228/200 since: 18/01/2005 month-start: 235 monthly-goal: 12
: http://www.delorie.com/health/asdlc/
:
:

WAY TO GO JENNIFER!
🙂

--
rosie

http://www.commonsensemom.com/

"Jennifer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
: Modern research has determined that "Birthday Cake", ie: A highly
: decorated sweet flour/fat/sugar based dessert, generally festooned
with
: YOUR name, has NO CALORIES, NO CARBS, AND NO FAT.
:
: Shocking? Sure.
:
: But it appears, the joy felt once a year when we eat a piece of
this
: comestible surrounded by our loved ones immediately dissipates all
: CALORIES, CARBS AND FAT!
:
: There are a few important caveats:
:
: 1. It must be YOUR birthday.
:
: 2. You must only have ONE birthday a year.
:
: 3. Cake must be consumed AFTER appropriate musical accompaniment
("Happy
: Birthday" or "For He/She's a Jolly Good Fellow/Person" or the
like).
:
: 4. Candles, while low carb, low calorie and low fat must NOT be
: consumed... especially when lit.
:
: 5. BEWARE! Foods consumed before and after cake maintain their
original
: carb, fat and calorie count.
:
: This has been brought to you as a public service announcement.
:
: Jennifer
:
: Yes, the "Ice Cream AND Cake" variable was addressed in the study.
:
: Should "Ice Cream AND Cake" be consumed, as separate items, each
will
: release HALF of it's calories, carbs and fats. So an option
would be to
: only eat the HALF that is now CCF-FREE. Determining which half
is now
: CCF-FREE is easy... it's the half closest to you.
:
: As for an "Ice Cream Cake" ie: Baskin Robbins/Haggan
Daz/Carvel... normal
: sized slices fall under the original CCF-FREE study and can be
consumed
: with pleasure.
:
: Hope that clears it up.
:
: Mark McArthey wrote:
:
: > So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but
we've always
: > made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has
varied
: > depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black
forest cherry
: > cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a
year. The
: > problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this
year. Back in
: > January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow
myself my
: > birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will
probably make
: > my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm
presented with
: > the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out
of ketosis,
: > and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit,
water), I'm not
: > so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point.
I know
: > about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I
haven't cheated
: > at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will
affect me. I
: > suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start back
in induction
: > again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good
LC Black
: > Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some constructive
comments and
: > what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to
a number of
: > parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit
different. Anyone
: > with some personal experience similar to this?
: > Thanks for any ideas,
: > Mark
:

start with this:
http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/Cookbook/0069.html

whip up your own whipped cream, from FRESH HEAVY CREAM.

use your unsweetened cherries that you sweeten with SPLENDA.

--
rosie

http://www.commonsensemom.com/

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
: news:[email hidden]...
: > LC cheesecake.
: >
: > Pork Rind Cake.
: >
: > Neither of those will result in water weight gain, but you can
eat too
: > much.
: >
: Thanks for the ideas. I think I'll see if I can find a decent
chocolate
: cake recipe and just make up some sort of equivalent. LC whipped
cream is
: easy, and I can get frozen cherries that are unsweetened. The
only other
: major ingredient is the kirschwasser and the nutrition information
is here:
: http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc564.html
: If I don't have any other carbs that day, given that I can have
about 50g of
: carbs, I should be perfectly fine if I just have a piece.
: Once I figure out the recipe and the carb counts, I'll be sure to
post a
: recipe here.
: I think I had already decided I wasn't going off the diet, but I
just needed
: to think out loud about it. 🙂 I'm too invested in this weight
loss thing
: to let my birthday screw it up. I want to feel good about turning
another
: year older. LOL
:
: Thanks!
: Mark
:
:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

You cannot use splenda or one of the liquid syrup bases?

In the situation that I'm using it, I'd like to use a "powdered" form of a
sweetener since it adds bulk along with the sweetness. I've seen references
to guar gum but I've never used it (or seen it, for that matter), so I'm
wondering if I could use some of that along with a liquid?

Mark

Netrition has it.
http://www.netrition.com/now_erythritol_page.html

In news:[email hidden],
Mark McArthey <[email hidden]> stated
|
| I thought I had solved my problem with some powdered Erythritol, but
| it's not available from the manufacturer for some reason. It's the
| only sugar alcohol that hasn't bothered me. It's listed that way at
| the couple of sites I found it. *sigh* I'll keep looking.
| http://shop.store.yahoo.com/carbsmart/poweryth.html
|
| Mark

Mark McArthey said:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

You cannot use splenda or one of the liquid syrup bases?

In the situation that I'm using it, I'd like to use a "powdered" form
of a sweetener since it adds bulk along with the sweetness. I've
seen references to guar gum but I've never used it (or seen it, for
that matter), so I'm wondering if I could use some of that along with
a liquid?

I'm not really that much of a cook, but I think that gum serves as a
thickener rather than just simply adding bulk (someone please straighten me
out if I'm wrong). But you can get granular splenda (it has some carbs)
that is used one-for-one like sugar.

You are doing so well, I would hate to see you crash.

Cheating begets cheating.

My birthday is next week. I will have no cake. I'm a bit concerned,
because this will result in nobody else having cake, but I dare not risk the
return of thoughts-of-carbs.

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've always
made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course has varied
depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a black forest cherry
cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it this one time a year. The
problem is that I'm having a hard time with the decision this year. Back

in

Quoted message said:

January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow myself my
birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will probably

make

Quoted message said:

my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm presented

with

Quoted message said:

the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out of

ketosis,

Quoted message said:

and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit, water), I'm

not

Quoted message said:

so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point. I know
about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I haven't

cheated

Quoted message said:

at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will affect me. I
suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start back in

induction

Quoted message said:

again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good LC Black
Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some constructive comments

and

Quoted message said:

what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to a number

of

Quoted message said:

parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit different.

Anyone

Quoted message said:

with some personal experience similar to this?
Thanks for any ideas,
Mark
--
260/228/200 since: 18/01/2005 month-start: 235 monthly-goal: 12
http://www.delorie.com/health/asdlc/

Cubit said:

You are doing so well, I would hate to see you crash.

Cheating begets cheating.

My birthday is next week. I will have no cake. I'm a bit concerned,
because this will result in nobody else having cake, but I dare not
risk the return of thoughts-of-carbs.

So, you never plan to eat a carb again? This causes me to have concern for
you.

Quoted message said:

"Mark McArthey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

So, a typical birthday for me has never been extravagant, but we've
always made a special "your request" birthday meal. My main course
has varied depending upon my mood, but it always ends up with a
black forest cherry cake. One of my favorites, and I only get it
this one time a year. The problem is that I'm having a hard time
with the decision this year. Back

in

Quoted message said:

January I had decided that if I was about 220 I would allow myself my
birthday meal. My birthday is April 3 (will be 35) and I will
probably

make

Quoted message said:

my goal. I'm excited about that, obviously, but now that I'm
presented

with

Quoted message said:

the reality of going off the diet, halting my losing, coming out of

ketosis,

Quoted message said:

and probably quickly gaining back a bunch of weight (albeit, water),
I'm

not

Quoted message said:

so excited with the prospect. I have worked hard to this point. I
know about structured refeeds and such, but am just not sure. I
haven't

cheated

Quoted message said:

at all in this period and am not sure how, exactly, it will affect
me. I suppose if I do have the birthday meal, I'll have to start
back in

induction

Quoted message said:

again? Not an entertaining prospect. Unless someone has a good LC
Black Forest Cake recipe? 😉 I'm just looking for some
constructive comments

and

Quoted message said:

what everyone else has done in similar situations. I've been to a
number

of

Quoted message said:

parties and haven't had a problem, but this is just a bit different.

Anyone

Quoted message said:

with some personal experience similar to this?
Thanks for any ideas,
Mark
--
260/228/200 since: 18/01/2005 month-start: 235 monthly-goal: 12
http://www.delorie.com/health/asdlc/

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

You are doing so well, I would hate to see you crash.

Cheating begets cheating.

My birthday is next week. I will have no cake. I'm a bit concerned,
because this will result in nobody else having cake, but I dare not
risk the return of thoughts-of-carbs.

So, you never plan to eat a carb again? This causes me to have concern
for
you.

Why?

There is no such thing as an essential carb.

JC Der Koenig said:

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

You are doing so well, I would hate to see you crash.

Cheating begets cheating.

My birthday is next week. I will have no cake. I'm a bit
concerned, because this will result in nobody else having cake, but
I dare not risk the return of thoughts-of-carbs.

So, you never plan to eat a carb again? This causes me to have
concern for
you.

Why?

There is no such thing as an essential carb.

Certain carb foods have important vitamins. Also, it is not proven that
there is no essential carb. It simply may not be discovered yet. Finally,
I doubt anyone is this society will never eat a carb. Cubit will have to
deal with eating carby foods sooner or later. He may as well learn to deal
with it.