Bikes on Airplanes.

more information...

where are you going?
where are you starting from?

In the US - yes. $60-80 on most airlines. If you are a licensed USCF
Member you can get 2 vouchers for United.

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Andrew F Martin said:

more information...

where are you going?
where are you starting from?

In the US - yes. $60-80 on most airlines. If you are a licensed USCF
Member you can get 2 vouchers for United.

it's a ripoff...make sure your case doesn't say "bike" anywhere on it,
dress nice and tell the skycap it's a "display for work" and make sure
he see's the $10 bill you'll tip him.

this has worked for me dozens of times...even when checking in at the
counter.

Andrew F Martin said:

more information...

where are you going?
where are you starting from?

In the US - yes. $60-80 on most airlines. If you are a licensed USCF
Member you can get 2 vouchers for United.

Ah, United.
Proud recipients of US$7,500 from the New Zealand duathlon team in 2002 for
excess baggage charges. Missed approach go-around at LAX a mere courtesy
detail...

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Stu Fleming said:

Ah, United.
Proud recipients of US$7,500 from the New Zealand duathlon team in 2002
for excess baggage charges. Missed approach go-around at LAX a mere
courtesy detail...

You'd rather they'd insisted on landing the first time?

if flying international companies don't charge you so long as it is
within your baggage weight allowance

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DepartFictif said:

if flying international companies don't charge you so long as it is
within your baggage weight allowance

Aha, another argument for having the lightest bike you can get.

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Howard

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remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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if flying international companies don't charge you so long as it is
within your baggage weight allowance

Depends on the company and where you're flying from.

I've found that even in the States you may be able to avoid the fee if the
bike is your only piece of checked luggage. A lot depends on the agent you
check in with, and whether he/she is having a good day, how well you smile,
etc.

BTW, some airlines may refuse to take your bike on the same flight that
you're on if you don't inform them in advance that you've got a bike as
luggage.

crit pro said:

it's a ripoff...make sure your case doesn't say "bike" anywhere on it,
dress nice and tell the skycap it's a "display for work" and make sure
he see's the $10 bill you'll tip him.

this has worked for me dozens of times...even when checking in at the
counter.

So you [censored] and moan about Dave Fuentes stealing your prize money from
Superweek, but you believe it is acceptable to steal from and lie to
the airlines?

wow.. sounds like a lot of hard times traveling. I've never had that
much trouble. I've never paid for international flights, (or national
for that matter except within the US, but sponsor paid for that) and
I've flown a LOT with my bike... it might have gone missing a few
times, but I always got it back (eventually).

I'll stop reading this threat now, it's too depressing as I'll be
flying again soon... I'm like the ostrich way of life...

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Quoted message said:

wow.. sounds like a lot of hard times traveling. I've never had that
much trouble. I've never paid for international flights, (or national
for that matter except within the US, but sponsor paid for that) and
I've flown a LOT with my bike... it might have gone missing a few
times, but I always got it back (eventually).

I'll stop reading this threat now, it's too depressing as I'll be
flying again soon... I'm like the ostrich way of life...

I've had Air France (Copenhagen to Paris) tell me that they couldn't
guarantee that my bike would be on the same flight as the rest of my luggage
since I didn't let them know in advance I was bringing a bike and there
might not be space for it.

I've had SAS charge me about $30 for a bike (Paris to Stockholm).

The worst is when your flight includes several legs and they try to make you
pay for each leg.

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Carl Sundquist said:

crit pro said:

it's a ripoff...make sure your case doesn't say "bike" anywhere on it,
dress nice and tell the skycap it's a "display for work" and make sure
he see's the $10 bill you'll tip him.

this has worked for me dozens of times...even when checking in at the
counter.

So you [censored] and moan about Dave Fuentes stealing your prize money from
Superweek, but you believe it is acceptable to steal from and lie to
the airlines?

"That's different."

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

All what you say about airlines is too right! I have completely stopped
flying and will never fly again unless there is no other way to get
somewhere. Being treated like cattle would be a step up in most cases
today.

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Quoted message said:

I bought a bike case and am taking a trip. Do they charge extra to take the
bike?

If they know it is a bicycle, yes they will charge you quite a bit extra. Even
if you have no other luggage.
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Alex

hol99 said:

I bought a bike case and am taking a trip. Do they charge extra to take the
bike?

Dave

Research in detail the actual policy of the airline you will be using
(should be available on their website.) Note that international tariff
regulations mean that there will usually be differnt rules for domestic
vs. international flights.

Then, make a print-out of the actual policy of that airline, and take it
with you in hand when you actually check-in at the airport. Not
surprisingly, ill-informed counter staff may insist that bikes can't be
carried / accrue excess baggage costs / etc., when their actual policies
may be quite different. It helps to be able to show them a copy of
their own policy.

If you Google-around a bit, there are some web-sites out there precisely
about travel with bicycles on airlines - reports of people's
experiences, airline policies, all that stuff.

Rob.

I made 1K (100 flight miles) last year on UAL without any incidents of
lost anything. I flew with my bike a number of times - but I have a
big team and people are friendly enough to pass on un-used vouchers.
Once you hit 1K, they usually waive the fee, unless you run against a
rules nazi.

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Quoted message said:

hol99 said:

I bought a bike case and am taking a trip. Do they charge extra to take

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bike?

Dave

Research in detail the actual policy of the airline you will be using
(should be available on their website.) Note that international tariff
regulations mean that there will usually be differnt rules for domestic
vs. international flights.

Then, make a print-out of the actual policy of that airline, and take it
with you in hand when you actually check-in at the airport. Not
surprisingly, ill-informed counter staff may insist that bikes can't be
carried / accrue excess baggage costs / etc., when their actual policies
may be quite different. It helps to be able to show them a copy of
their own policy.

If you Google-around a bit, there are some web-sites out there precisely
about travel with bicycles on airlines - reports of people's
experiences, airline policies, all that stuff.

Rob.

Actually, even better is if you can find the FAA regs whicj are often more
favorable than the airlines policies.

A quick summary from four airlines web sites...

Southwest:
Non-motorized Bicycles, including Bike Friday and Co-Pilot, will be accepted
as checked baggage at no additional charge provided the limit of three
checked bags is not exceeded; the bicycle is properly packaged; and the box
containing the bicycle fits within the 62-inch sizing limit and weighs 50
lbs or under. The handlebars, kickstand, and pedals must be removed and
placed inside the box. A $50.00 each-way charge applies to bicycles that don't
meet the above criteria. Bicycles packaged in a cardboard box or soft-sided
case will be transported as a conditionally accepted item.

United
$80 within US/Canada limit 50 pounds 62 linear inches

American (I think this is domestic only)
$80
Exception: If bicycle and container are less than 62 dimensional inches and
under 50 lbs., the bike is free in place of one 62 inch bag in the free
allowance.

Delta
Any bicycle presented in a box with overall dimensions not exceeding 62" or
157.5cm (length + height + width) and checked in lieu of one bag is
accepted. Bicycles exceeding 62" are subject to charge. A $100 fee applies
for each checked bicycle [Note: this is somewhat ambiguous. I ASSUME the
$100 fee is the charge for exceeding 62"]

--
Carl

I must apologize for my earlier post, which might be read as suggesting that
many airlines will carry bicycles without charge. This is true, short of.
I did some web searching and was unable to find a bike shipping container
(for a conventional bike) within the 62" linear dimension constraint.
--
Carl

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Quoted message said:

hol99 said:

I bought a bike case and am taking a trip. Do they charge extra to
take

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bike?

Dave

Research in detail the actual policy of the airline you will be using
(should be available on their website.) Note that international
tariff
regulations mean that there will usually be differnt rules for
domestic
vs. international flights.

Then, make a print-out of the actual policy of that airline, and take
it
with you in hand when you actually check-in at the airport. Not
surprisingly, ill-informed counter staff may insist that bikes can't
be
carried / accrue excess baggage costs / etc., when their actual
policies
may be quite different. It helps to be able to show them a copy of
their own policy.

If you Google-around a bit, there are some web-sites out there
precisely
about travel with bicycles on airlines - reports of people's
experiences, airline policies, all that stuff.

Rob.

Actually, even better is if you can find the FAA regs whicj are often
more
favorable than the airlines policies.

Ah yes, here it is in the Federal Airworthy Regulations.....FAR 25.14
section c. Airlines must charge for carrying a bicycle on a commercial
airplane. After all, they are trying to run a business and the
additional handling requires extra airline personnel. Prospective
passengers are free to make their own travel arrangements of course, or
god forbid, they could even drive to their destination. For regulations
on bringing a stripped down frame on board in a garment bag see FAR
fetched 4Q2.

Phil H