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  1. Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I have recently
    started doing offroad riding on quite rugged terrain, and feel that
    putting front suspension on the bike would make riding a lot easier. But
    I have heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old
    bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear shifters,
    brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front shocks on
    this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother as buy cheap
    shocks (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would love a new
    rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't afford
    at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks,
    Claire.

  2. ch5 said:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I have recently
    started doing offroad riding on quite rugged terrain, and feel that
    putting front suspension on the bike would make riding a lot easier.
    But I have heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade
    an old bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear
    shifters, brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front
    shocks on this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother as
    buy cheap shocks (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would
    love a new rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the UK which
    I can't afford at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike
    anyway).

    The issue you face is whether a suspension fork will alter your bike's
    handling too much by changing the headtube angle. (Also, your bike may have
    a 1" steerer, whereas the standard is 1 1/8" nowadays. Some manufacturers
    still offer 1" steertubes, though, so don't despair.)

    Your bike MAY already be "suspension corrected", however, as early '90s
    models were often outfitted with boingy forks along with rigid ones.

    Best bet? Get thee to an LBS (local bike shop) and let them advise you; OR
    contact Specialized directly and ask.

    Bill "Happy Rockhopping" S.

  3. "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I have recently
    started doing offroad riding on quite rugged terrain, and feel that
    putting front suspension on the bike would make riding a lot easier. But
    I have heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old
    bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear shifters,
    brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front shocks on
    this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother as buy cheap
    shocks (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would love a new
    rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't afford
    at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks,
    Claire.

    Well since no-one else has answered this I'll give it a go.
    Your rockhopper is a fine machine, and should still ride well I imagine in
    its present state. Unfortunately 10 years is a fairly long time in mountian
    bike development, a lot has happened since your bike was born. Around this
    time suspension forks were still being

  4. "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I have recently
    started doing offroad riding on quite rugged terrain, and feel that
    putting front suspension on the bike would make riding a lot easier. But
    I have heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old
    bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear shifters,
    brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front shocks on
    this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother as buy cheap
    shocks (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would love a new
    rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't afford
    at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks,
    Claire.

    Well since no-one else has answered this I'll give it a go.Your rockhopper
    is a fine machine, and should still ride well I imagine in its present
    state. Unfortunately 10 years is a fairly long time in mountain bike
    development, a lot has happened since your bike was born. Around this time
    suspension forks were just starting to be widely used, but travel was
    limited to around 2". Your bikes geometry may be corrected for these short
    travel forks, but maybe not :-(. If not, then adding a suspension fork will
    slacken the intended geometry of the bike to a point that you may not like.
    Ahead stems were also introduced around this time, if your frame uses an
    ahead-style stem (stem clamps to outside of steerer instead of using a quill
    to clamp the inside) then you will find your choice of forks is greater.
    Marzocchi and Pace still do threaded (non-ahead) forks iirc but have to be
    specially ordererd. Your frame should have a 1.125" headset unless it a few
    years older than you remembered, worth checking though as again if it is 1"
    this will restrict the choice of available forks. Your next hurdle is with
    your brakes. If they are cantilever type brakes i.e. not 'V' brakes the you
    will have trouble fitting them to a suspension fork. Cantilever brakes
    require a cable hanger on the lower part of the fork, usually the leg brace,
    modern suspension forks do not have these :-(. This means you will either
    have to try and source an older fork to use, or 'upgrade' your front brakes
    to 'V' brakes which don't require a hanger. Or you could bodge your own
    cable hanger, which is perfectly feasible :-). If you plan on upgrading your
    brakes then unfortunately V brakes require levers with longer cable pull, so
    you'll need new levers too :-( If your shifters are attached to your brake
    levers then you'll be needing new shifters too. If your bike uses a seven
    speed cassette then you'll have to look hard to find 7 speed shifters. If
    you can't then you'll be needing a new 8/9 speed rear wheel, cassette, and
    chain.

    So to summarise, check how many of thsese possibilities are going to be
    problems, and then decide whether it is feasible. It doesn't look too
    hopeful from where I'm sitting.

    As for how much money to spend on shocks, £180 will buy you some nice
    Marzocchi MX comps.

    Steve.

  5. "spademan o---[) *"
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    "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Ignore this one, it got away before I could finish...

    Steve.

  6. "spademan o---[) *"
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    "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I have recently
    started doing offroad riding on quite rugged terrain, and feel that
    putting front suspension on the bike would make riding a lot easier. But
    I have heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old
    bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear shifters,
    brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front shocks on
    this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother as buy cheap
    shocks (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would love a new
    rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't afford
    at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks,
    Claire.


    I've just checked the FAQ and basically it summarises all I've said into
    about 3 lines...

    a.m-b FAQ: http://www.j-harris.net/bike/ambfaq.htm

    Steve.

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