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  1. Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following
    question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I
    have recently started doing offroad riding on quite rugged
    terrain, and feel that putting front suspension on the bike
    would make riding a lot easier. But I have heard that it is
    not worth spending the money to upgrade an old bike in this
    way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear shifters, brakes,
    etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea to put front shocks
    on this bike?. And is it true that I may as well not bother
    as buy cheap shocks (i.e. anything less than around
    £200/$300). I would love a new rockhopper but they start at
    around £1000 in the UK which I can't afford at present! (and
    am pretty attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks, Claire.

  2. ch5 said:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I
    have recently started doing offroad riding on quite rugged
    terrain, and feel that putting front suspension on the
    bike would make riding a lot easier. But I have heard that
    it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old bike
    in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear
    shifters, brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea
    to put front shocks on this bike?. And is it true that I
    may as well not bother as buy cheap shocks (i.e. anything
    less than around £200/$300). I would love a new rockhopper
    but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't
    afford at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike
    anyway).

    The issue you face is whether a suspension fork will alter
    your bike's handling too much by changing the headtube
    angle. (Also, your bike may have a 1" steerer, whereas the
    standard is 1 1/8" nowadays. Some manufacturers still offer
    1" steertubes, though, so don't despair.)

    Your bike MAY already be "suspension corrected", however, as
    early '90s models were often outfitted with boingy forks
    along with rigid ones.

    Best bet? Get thee to an LBS (local bike shop) and let them
    advise you; OR contact Specialized directly and ask.

    Bill "Happy Rockhopping" S.

  3. "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following
    question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I
    have recently started doing offroad riding on quite rugged
    terrain, and feel that putting front suspension on the
    bike would make riding a lot easier. But I have heard that
    it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old bike
    in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear
    shifters, brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea
    to put front shocks on this bike?. And is it true that I
    may as well not bother as buy cheap shocks (i.e. anything
    less than around £200/$300). I would love a new rockhopper
    but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't
    afford at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike
    anyway).

    thanks, Claire.

    Well since no-one else has answered this I'll give it a go.
    Your rockhopper is a fine machine, and should still ride
    well I imagine in its present state. Unfortunately 10 years
    is a fairly long time in mountian bike development, a lot
    has happened since your bike was born. Around this time
    suspension forks were still being

  4. "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following
    question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I
    have recently started doing offroad riding on quite rugged
    terrain, and feel that putting front suspension on the
    bike would make riding a lot easier. But I have heard that
    it is not worth spending the money to upgrade an old bike
    in this way. I have upgraded many other bits (gear
    shifters, brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a bad idea
    to put front shocks on this bike?. And is it true that I
    may as well not bother as buy cheap shocks (i.e. anything
    less than around £200/$300). I would love a new rockhopper
    but they start at around £1000 in the UK which I can't
    afford at present! (and am pretty attached to the old bike
    anyway).

    thanks, Claire.

    Well since no-one else has answered this I'll give it a
    go.Your rockhopper is a fine machine, and should still ride
    well I imagine in its present state. Unfortunately 10 years
    is a fairly long time in mountain bike development, a lot
    has happened since your bike was born. Around this time
    suspension forks were just starting to be widely used, but
    travel was limited to around 2". Your bikes geometry may be
    corrected for these short travel forks, but maybe not :-(.
    If not, then adding a suspension fork will slacken the
    intended geometry of the bike to a point that you may not
    like. Ahead stems were also introduced around this time, if
    your frame uses an ahead-style stem (stem clamps to outside
    of steerer instead of using a quill to clamp the inside)
    then you will find your choice of forks is greater.
    Marzocchi and Pace still do threaded (non-ahead) forks iirc
    but have to be specially ordererd. Your frame should have a
    1.125" headset unless it a few years older than you
    remembered, worth checking though as again if it is 1" this
    will restrict the choice of available forks. Your next
    hurdle is with your brakes. If they are cantilever type
    brakes i.e. not 'V' brakes the you will have trouble fitting
    them to a suspension fork. Cantilever brakes require a cable
    hanger on the lower part of the fork, usually the leg brace,
    modern suspension forks do not have these :-(. This means
    you will either have to try and source an older fork to use,
    or 'upgrade' your front brakes to 'V' brakes which don't
    require a hanger. Or you could bodge your own cable hanger,
    which is perfectly feasible :-). If you plan on upgrading
    your brakes then unfortunately V brakes require levers with
    longer cable pull, so you'll need new levers too :-( If your
    shifters are attached to your brake levers then you'll be
    needing new shifters too. If your bike uses a seven speed
    cassette then you'll have to look hard to find 7 speed
    shifters. If you can't then you'll be needing a new 8/9
    speed rear wheel, cassette, and chain.

    So to summarise, check how many of thsese
    possibilities are going to be problems, and then
    decide whether it is feasible. It doesn't look too
    hopeful from where I'm sitting.

    As for how much money to spend on shocks, £180 will buy you
    some nice Marzocchi MX comps.

    Steve.

  5. "spademan o---[) *"
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    "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Ignore this one, it got away before I could finish...

    Steve.

  6. "spademan o---[) *"
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    Quoted message said:


    "ch5" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi fellow bikers,

    Do any of you have advice/experience on the following
    question:

    I have an old (about 10 years) specialised rockhopper. I
    have recently started doing offroad riding on quite
    rugged terrain, and feel that putting front suspension
    on the bike would make riding a lot easier. But I have
    heard that it is not worth spending the money to upgrade
    an old bike in this way. I have upgraded many other bits
    (gear shifters, brakes, etc.) over the years. Is it a
    bad idea to put front shocks on this bike?. And is it
    true that I may as well not bother as buy cheap shocks
    (i.e. anything less than around £200/$300). I would love
    a new rockhopper but they start at around £1000 in the
    UK which I can't afford at present! (and am pretty
    attached to the old bike anyway).

    thanks, Claire.


    I've just checked the FAQ and basically it summarises all
    I've said into about 3 lines...

    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    Steve.

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