Terry Collins said:
Tamyka Bell said:Isn't that nice? If you let yourself go, and end up fat and unhealthy,
we'll help cover the costs...
<warning - longish rant>
Blink!
1) You are female?
Yes
Quoted message said:2) Are you absolutely sure that none of your ancestors suffered from
diabetes?
No. I am absolutely sure that my paternal grandfather has diabetes.
Quoted message said:3) Come back amd make that statement after you've done a bit of breeding
and your sons have bred (should put them into the target age range for
T2 diabetes nicely).
I have no intention of breeding.
Quoted message said:FYI; some diabetes is given to sons by mothers who are carriers of the
gene (another cause). In which case you would be a pretty good candidate
for getting it yourself (age onset= another cause).
That, and my sugar intolerance, and the strange insulin readings I get
during testing. Yep the Ex Phys staff around here reckon I would be by
now, if I wasn't so fit.
Quoted message said:Oh, and you might start asking some of your breeding female friends if
they went/are pre-/diabetic during pregnancy (fourth cause).
My friends don't breed. They may reproduce.
Quoted message said:<cynical>
Yes, I know the current medically driven mantra is that it is all caused
by the lazy, obese[1] individuals. Obviously they have seen all the
funds that "Cancer Research" can attract and are now trying for "obesity
institutes". Nice little career that, working for a research charity.
</cynical>
My comment above, as you have quoted, referred to fat, lazy, unhealthy
people. The media releases have stated that GPs can refer obese people
to Ex Phys. I am perfectly happy for diabetics to see an Ex Phys. I was
referring to the non-diabetic obese people without a medical condition
causing it.
Quoted message said:[1] Some diabetics are less than or at the bottom end of normal weight.
Quite a few people who have diabetes are not actually "obese". A lot
become fat/obese after they get diabetes because they are suppossed to
follow a pattern of 6x(inject, eat, exerise) each day.
I'm aware of this fact. Dogs can be diabetic too, how about that?
Quoted message said:As far as diabetes goes, they (medical profession) only have a
rudimentary clue. We seem to have two theories for Type 1 & Type 2, but
the area really is scientific knowledge that is still greatly evolving.
Best explanation is that the title "diabetes" is like "cancer"; not all
cancers have the same cause and we know what it is, but not how to fix it.
It is interesting to hear older doctors talk about 5 types.
You just need to read some of the usenet groups and web forums and hear
some of the problems that diabetics have with the standard mantras of
what they should do (tablets, exercise, diet, exercise).
So you can end up with high blood pressure just trying to work out what
is going on with your diabetes and why the good advice you are given
just isn't working.
It's like that with most diseases, isn't it. Sucks. And the more we
know, the more we're aware that we don't know much at all.
Quoted message said:Bicycling is actually a very good activity for diabetics because they
can often have difficulty getting sufficent exercise walking (or any
foot based activity). The nerves in your feet seem to be the first to go
and as you are always asked "are they on fire?". Then there is the cramps.
Nasty.
Quoted message said:Finally, if obesity was the sole cause, then you would expect that all
those diabetics who somehow[2] loose weight and keep up the exercise to
be cured. Unfortunately not
Never said it was the sole cause... like I said, I was referring to the
fact that obese people, not diabetics. And I later went on to explain
that I understand obesity can have medical causes and if that's the
cause, then they should be entitled to claim under medicare. But people
who are just fat and lazy really should just get over it and ride a
bike.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:... too bad if you've taken care of yourself from the start!
I too thought like you when I was young. Until I started to realise that
a heck of a lot of people had problems from no fault of their own doing.
And a lot of people have problems that are their fault. Like smokers
with lung cancer and paraplegics who drove when drunk and wrapped their
car around a light pole.
Quoted message said:Remember that your genes are only selected to get you to breed and raise
children. Anything else is a bonus and really random selection.
That's a nice evolutionary viewpoint. Let's work with that and cease to
provide any healthcare, so that only the fittest, healthiest genes
survive.
Quoted message said:So, if you want to indulge in wine, women/men, alcohol, funny
stimulants, tobaccos/weed, etc, feel free because at least then you will
have something to blame instead of feeling "huh", but I didn't use any
of those.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Anyone know a decent exercise physiologist? I think I need a program
that involves a new bike...
It will probably only be for part of a K Mart clunker to minimum street
legal. No lights, no rear view mirror, no streamers {:-).
Quoted message said:I have a department full of them, right here...
Do they have a provider number? {:-).
All AAESS members are eligible service providers.
Tam
