bike pron?

paul said:

I looked at some of the somelinks someone just posted about aussie made
bikes..

http://www.llewellynbikes.com/thegallery/album13/aac?full=1

Paul

Shouldn't that be "bike pr0n"?

Well, at least that how i spelled it when I emailed my old mum to
explain words like "filk", "pr0n", "fan-fic" (including "slash"😉,
"usenet-weirdo", "cos-play", and so on.

[censored]
p

ps: bring on more bicycle pr0n!

"paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I looked at some of the somelinks someone just posted about aussie made
bikes..

http://www.llewellynbikes.com/thegallery/album13/aac?full=1

Paul

But a cheap [censored] when compared to SuzyJ's delicate lugs!! Oh such
filth around the edges! Clearly this old lady wasn't washed around
the edges. Cheap tartlet lug was polished by machine.. , and that
bawdy overpollished nobby bit... Mutton dressed as lamb I say!!

Hmm guess once you've seen SuzyJ's wares nothing will be the same
again :[

Tom (who's still recovering from the shear beauty of the recently
crafted stem)

Tom Nicholson said:

But a cheap [censored] when compared to SuzyJ's delicate lugs!! Oh such
filth around the edges! Clearly this old lady wasn't washed around
the edges. Cheap tartlet lug was polished by machine.. , and that
bawdy overpollished nobby bit... Mutton dressed as lamb I say!!

Hey, don't be dissin' da man! Dazza the Queenslander's one of the very best in the business, and he'll even stoop as far as to give advice to a low-life like me. He's the one who goaded me into trying polished stainless.

Llewellyn frames are amongst the most beautiful on the planet.

Cheers,

Suzy

suzyj said:

Hey, don't be dissin' da man! Dazza the Queenslander's one of the very best in the business, and he'll even stoop as far as to give advice to a low-life like me. He's the one who goaded me into trying polished stainless.

Llewellyn frames are amongst the most beautiful on the planet.

Cheers,

Suzy

Rant Alert!

I fear I am about to say something slightly heretical, and may well be banished for it, but here goes anyway . . .

'Pornography' from the Latin/Greek hybrid: Porne= prostitutes, and Graphy = writing/describing. Prostitutes are just for playing around with, or so I'm told, and the real love of your life may not be as sophisticated, or as elegant or as well-finished, but it's the one you ride every day :o and know all the little ins and outs of, every scratch and creak, every sticky pivot and creased decal.

Why, apart from show, do we need multiple piercings in our lugs (as I once asked a rather alternative young person) and polish so fine you could tweeze your nostril hairs in it? Surely there's something better to be doing than getting a bike beyond well-designed, functional, fun to ride and corrosion-resistant? Such as riding it? I'm not advocating basic black with rod brakes, but once a nice coat of paint that won't come off easily is applied, all the extra labour in filing, buffing, lining, chasing, pinstriping, four-colour fading is just doomed in the face of the first serious prang, fall-over-when-clumsily-parked or clumsy baggage handler. Sure, make your exhibition piece, as all craftspeople are wont to do, but hang it on the wall with the Campagnolo Anniversario gruppo on it, and go onto getting people onto bikes that work and don't stress them out every time they ride them for fear of marking the laboriously applied and detailed finish. I think that I'm thinking about all the incredibly detailed and complex products of the various craftsmen to the nobility during the Enlightenment here - embellishment and ornament for the sake of showing how rich the subsequent purchaser was, and how much they could indulge their whims of decoration, by patronising certain privileged, but consequently oppressed, master craftsmen (No more purchases = labour force too specialised to making a living any other way = starvation). The nobility had made all their money off the products of slave labour anyway, so I think, in this convoluted way, this is why I have an inherent distrust for fetishising overly ornate construction. Also - all the boutique steel framebuilders - do they know how to weld Al? Ti? Lay up carbon? Are they just compensating for a fear that their craft is being swallowed up and made redundant by redoubling their efforts doing what they know? Extra-heretical bit - turn away now - isn't that what fanatics do, according to the maxim?

I like a well-made steel frame - but I don't fully subscribe to all the self-serving (and engineeringly rather moot) arguments about lugs that die-hard luggers put forward because they can't TIG or fillet-braze. Sure, lugs and polish and cutouts are nice to look at, but in reality, the difference between a TIGged and lugged frame, when all's said and done, for everyday use, is pretty small and subjective. If aesthetics are your thing, and you've got time to spare, then go crazy. I also like the aesthetics of a well-run weld bead, which requires as much skill, and a whole lot less ostentation than the curliest of lugs. (Even Henry James, I notice, doesn't make sockets in the back of his MTB B/B shell for brazing chainstays, throwing up his hands at all these different newfangled chainstay shapes that all these kids make nowadays 🙂. He says you should fillet braze or *gasp* TIG weld them on!)

M "devil's advocate" H

mfhor said:

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Why, apart from show, .....

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Sure, lugs and polish and cutouts are nice to look at, but in reality, the difference between a TIGged and lugged frame, when all's said and done, for everyday use, is pretty small and subjective. If aesthetics are your thing, and you've got time to spare, then go crazy.

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M "devil's advocate" H

The answer is within you Grasshopper 😉

Should not a finely handcrafted but yet functional object also be beautiful?

suzyj <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Hey, don't be dissin' da man! Dazza the Queenslander's one of the very
best in the business, and he'll even stoop as far as to give advice to a
low-life like me. He's the one who goaded me into trying polished
stainless.

Llewellyn frames are amongst the most beautiful on the planet.

Cheers,

Suzy

Hmm maybe I've just got a soft spot for the shiny bits you make. Not
dissin' Dazza - Love his work, just this one was a bit scruffy on the
edges after viewing your new stem..

I think the P0rn title is whats its about - the unattainable and over
the top from the expected. Just because you appreciate 'bike p0rn'
doesn't mean the real thing isn't good enough for the rest of the
time..

T (riding his daggy Tig'ed recumbent: definitely not p0rn!!)

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paul said:

I looked at some of the somelinks someone just posted about aussie made
bikes..

http://www.llewellynbikes.com/thegallery/album13/aac?full=1

Paul

Shouldn't that be "bike pr0n"?

Well, at least that how i spelled it when I emailed my old mum to
explain words like "filk", "pr0n", "fan-fic" (including "slash"😉,
"usenet-weirdo", "cos-play", and so on.

[censored]
p

ps: bring on more bicycle pr0n!

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