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  1. Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
    I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    plan a route.
    GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    won't string them together to form a route.
    GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    Cheers
    Ric

  2. ric said:

    Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
    I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    plan a route.
    GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    won't string them together to form a route.
    GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    Memory Map makes a good job of importing Bikely GPXs

    Cheers

    Neil

  3. ric wrote:
    :: Hi All,
    :: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's
    :: great for car navigation.
    :: I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.

    Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a
    car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some
    moble charger for your bike for long rides.
    Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for
    car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see
    why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...

    :: I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    :: Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    :: tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    :: plan a route.
    :: GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    :: download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    :: won't string them together to form a route.
    :: GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
    ::
    :: Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    :: points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
    ::
    :: Cheers
    :: Ric

  4. Hi ric,

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    I usually use Pathaway for these things, and it indeed does import
    those routes in gpx format. I tested it with bikely, it works fine.
    --

    Ciao,
    Holger (GUS-KOTAL, GUS#1100)

    90-92 Honda CB400 10 Mm | 93-95 Yamaha TDM 850 26 Mm
    95-97 KTM 620 LC4 13 Mm | seit 97 BMW R1100GS 50 Mm (Die Renndrecksau!)

    cu @ http://www.issle.de

  5. I don't know what the capabilities are of your mobile phone pretending to be
    a GPS receiver -- I stick my cell (mobile) phone in the pocket of my jersey
    for emergency communications and use a Garmin Etrex Legend GPS for
    navigation. I have the accessory mounting device to attach it directly to
    the handlebars, next to the speedometer.

    When I can get a route map or cue sheet in advance of a ride I use Garmin's
    Mapsource MetroGuide to North America (I'm on the other side of the "pond"
    from you) to program the route into the GPS. When I ride semi-aimlessly
    just for the fun of it, I can record my track and then upload to my computer
    using the same software.

    "ric" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
    I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    plan a route.
    GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    won't string them together to form a route.
    GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    Cheers
    Ric

  6. ric said:

    Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
    I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    plan a route.
    GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    won't string them together to form a route.
    GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    Cheers
    Ric


    You could try some software I've written, see
    http://home.versatel.nl/pwelten/mapweltmain.html To be honest, it is
    still alpha, and not very well tested. It does run on my windows mobile
    phone although I cannot combine it with other programs like the camera
    because of the available RAM. It will read gpx files, although it will
    not show the comments in bikely gpx files (it will read the routes).
    Also, the functionality on smartphones is somewhat reduced, since there
    is no mouse or stylus. Editing of maps and waypoints is impossible on
    the smartphone, you will have to do this on a regular pc.

    Peter

  7. Roger Zoul said:

    ric wrote:
    :: Hi All,
    :: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's
    :: great for car navigation.
    :: I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.

    Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a
    car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some
    moble charger for your bike for long rides.
    Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for
    car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see
    why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...


    yup though most sat nav's get confused once you start heading into the
    lanes, battery life should be doable i can get a good few hours on my
    N70 copilot combo i don't charge the phone and it will last the day.

    roger

  8. I'm thinking that the 'ultimate' solution for bikes is the
    Garmin zumo 550: http://gpsinformation.org/zumo/zumo.html
    It supports route planning and all...

    ric said:


    Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
    I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS
    Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX
    tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to
    plan a route.
    GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX
    download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and
    won't string them together to form a route.
    GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.

    Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus
    points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!

    Cheers
    Ric

    --
    Jack

    Get general GPS information at:
    http://www.gpsinformation.net/

  9. Jack Yeazel said:

    I'm thinking that the 'ultimate' solution for bikes is the
    Garmin zumo 550: http://gpsinformation.org/zumo/zumo.html
    It supports route planning and all...

    That appears to be designed for motorbikes, rather than the kind of
    proper bikes that we talk about in half the ng's this is x-posted to.
    The battery life of "up to 4 hours" stated in the specs wouldn't be much
    use for long rides, and it seems silly to lug around a 300g box when you
    can get something more appropriate to cycling that's half the weight
    (e.g. the Garmin Venture Cx that I've just bought).

    Suggesting hardware doesn't seem to help the OP with his request for
    software to run on his Windows phone, anyway.

    --
    Danny Colyer <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down.
    Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2

  10. Danny Colyer said:
    Jack Yeazel said:

    I'm thinking that the 'ultimate' solution for bikes is the
    Garmin zumo 550: http://gpsinformation.org/zumo/zumo.html
    It supports route planning and all...


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:


    Suggesting hardware doesn't seem to help the OP with his
    request for software to run on his Windows phone, anyway.

    True indeed. Someone needs to point out that a bike GPS has to stand
    a lot more vibration and a lot more rain than most phones can take.
    The software will become moot when the hardware dies. Ric, is your
    phone a rugged one?
    --
    Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com

  11. Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote:
    with editing...
    : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a
    : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some
    : moble charger for your bike for long rides.
    : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for
    : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see
    : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...

    Not that simple.
    Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure
    are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and
    its limits will be apparent.
    Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be
    more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands
    and the data is much larger and more complex.

    Regards. RAF

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote:
    with editing...
    : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a
    : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some
    : moble charger for your bike for long rides.
    : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for
    : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see
    : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...

    Not that simple.
    Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure
    are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and
    its limits will be apparent.
    Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be
    more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands
    and the data is much larger and more complex.

    Regards. RAF

    The TomTom site claims some of their mapping is walking and bicycling
    specific.

  13. Roy A. Fletcher said:

    Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote:
    with editing...
    : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a
    : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some
    : moble charger for your bike for long rides.
    : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for
    : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see
    : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...

    Not that simple.
    Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure
    are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and
    its limits will be apparent.
    Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be
    more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands
    and the data is much larger and more complex.

    But surely you don't need route finding stuff. A straight projection
    onto a zoomable bitmap of an OS map should be enough. I mean you *know*
    you're on the path and not in the lake!

  14. On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]>
    dropped the following oil-slick:

    Quoted message said:

    Hi All,
    I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great
    for car navigation.
    I now want to use it on my bike

    My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof
    solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA /
    Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a combination
    I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer not a
    fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉
    --
    gomez
    Honda TransAlp,KTM 640LC Enduro (For Sale)
    (not is not to reply)
    "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

  15. gomez wrote:
    :: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]>
    :: dropped the following oil-slick:
    ::
    ::: Hi All,
    ::: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's
    ::: great for car navigation.
    ::: I now want to use it on my bike
    ::
    :: My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof
    :: solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA /
    :: Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a
    :: combination I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer
    :: not a fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉

    What's a bike cafe?

  16. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    gomez wrote:
    :: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]>
    :: dropped the following oil-slick:
    ::
    ::: Hi All,
    ::: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's
    ::: great for car navigation.
    ::: I now want to use it on my bike
    ::
    :: My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof
    :: solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA /
    :: Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a
    :: combination I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer
    :: not a fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉

    What's a bike cafe?

    Around here it is a cafe that is frequented by cyclists often in great
    numbers.

    Dave

  17. Dave said:

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What's a bike cafe?

    Around here it is a cafe that is frequented by cyclists often in great
    numbers.

    Thus showing the quality of it's CAKE.

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    Some people have one of those days. I have one of those lives.

  18. On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:20:35 +0100, Don Whybrow
    <[email hidden]> dropped the following oil-slick:

    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What's a bike cafe?

    Around here it is a cafe that is frequented by cyclists often in great
    numbers.

    Thus showing the quality of it's CAKE.

    Or more like of its FEB. 🙂
    --
    gomez
    Honda TransAlp,KTM 640LC Enduro (For Sale)
    (not is not to reply)
    "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"

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