Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides. I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to plan a route. GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and won't string them together to form a route. GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides. I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to plan a route. GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and won't string them together to form a route. GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
Memory Map makes a good job of importing Bikely GPXs
ric wrote: :: Hi All, :: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's :: great for car navigation. :: I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some moble charger for your bike for long rides. Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...
:: I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS :: Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX :: tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to :: plan a route. :: GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX :: download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and :: won't string them together to form a route. :: GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have. :: :: Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus :: points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files! :: :: Cheers :: Ric
I don't know what the capabilities are of your mobile phone pretending to be a GPS receiver -- I stick my cell (mobile) phone in the pocket of my jersey for emergency communications and use a Garmin Etrex Legend GPS for navigation. I have the accessory mounting device to attach it directly to the handlebars, next to the speedometer.
When I can get a route map or cue sheet in advance of a ride I use Garmin's Mapsource MetroGuide to North America (I'm on the other side of the "pond" from you) to program the route into the GPS. When I ride semi-aimlessly just for the fun of it, I can record my track and then upload to my computer using the same software.
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Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides. I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to plan a route. GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and won't string them together to form a route. GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides. I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to plan a route. GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and won't string them together to form a route. GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
Cheers Ric
You could try some software I've written, see http://home.versatel.nl/pwelten/mapweltmain.html To be honest, it is still alpha, and not very well tested. It does run on my windows mobile phone although I cannot combine it with other programs like the camera because of the available RAM. It will read gpx files, although it will not show the comments in bikely gpx files (it will read the routes). Also, the functionality on smartphones is somewhat reduced, since there is no mouse or stylus. Editing of maps and waypoints is impossible on the smartphone, you will have to do this on a regular pc.
ric wrote: :: Hi All, :: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's :: great for car navigation. :: I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides.
Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some moble charger for your bike for long rides. Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...
yup though most sat nav's get confused once you start heading into the lanes, battery life should be doable i can get a good few hours on my N70 copilot combo i don't charge the phone and it will last the day.
Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike for when I go on long rides. I've seen a couple of different apps that are aimed at this - GPS Tuner, GPSdash etc. What I want is something that can read in .GPX tracks downloaded from www.bikely.com and similar, and use them to plan a route. GPSdash doesn't seem able to do this - I can mess about with the GPX download with GPSbabel and similar but it only reads waypoints and won't string them together to form a route. GPStuner just seems to want more available RAM than I have.
Does anyone have a tried-and-tested solution for this? Extra bonus points for confirmed working from bikely GPX files or KML files!
That appears to be designed for motorbikes, rather than the kind of proper bikes that we talk about in half the ng's this is x-posted to. The battery life of "up to 4 hours" stated in the specs wouldn't be much use for long rides, and it seems silly to lug around a 300g box when you can get something more appropriate to cycling that's half the weight (e.g. the Garmin Venture Cx that I've just bought).
Suggesting hardware doesn't seem to help the OP with his request for software to run on his Windows phone, anyway.
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Suggesting hardware doesn't seem to help the OP with his request for software to run on his Windows phone, anyway.
True indeed. Someone needs to point out that a bike GPS has to stand a lot more vibration and a lot more rain than most phones can take. The software will become moot when the hardware dies. Ric, is your phone a rugged one? -- Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote: with editing... : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some : moble charger for your bike for long rides. : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...
Not that simple. Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and its limits will be apparent. Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands and the data is much larger and more complex.
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Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote: with editing... : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some : moble charger for your bike for long rides. : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...
Not that simple. Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and its limits will be apparent. Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands and the data is much larger and more complex.
Regards. RAF
The TomTom site claims some of their mapping is walking and bicycling specific.
Roger Zoul ([email hidden]) wrote: with editing... : Your plan will gobble up battery life on the mobile phone. It's okay in a : car since you can pull into a charger, so you might want to consider some : moble charger for your bike for long rides. : Garmin sells their software for use on mobile phones....I know it's good for : car, but cannot comment on how good it is for a bike ride, but I can't see : why it won't plan a route....that's what you do in car...
Not that simple. Cars can only travel on roads. And the map software and data structure are designed for that use. Take your average GPS off-roading and its limits will be apparent. Bikes can travel off-road. For that purpose, the receiver must be more accurate, must be able to obtain position in dense woodlands and the data is much larger and more complex.
But surely you don't need route finding stuff. A straight projection onto a zoomable bitmap of an OS map should be enough. I mean you *know* you're on the path and not in the lake!
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]> dropped the following oil-slick:
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Hi All, I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's great for car navigation. I now want to use it on my bike
My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA / Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a combination I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer not a fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉 -- gomez Honda TransAlp,KTM 640LC Enduro (For Sale) (not is not to reply) "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"
gomez wrote: :: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]> :: dropped the following oil-slick: :: ::: Hi All, ::: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's ::: great for car navigation. ::: I now want to use it on my bike :: :: My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof :: solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA / :: Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a :: combination I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer :: not a fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉
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gomez wrote: :: On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:08:04 -0700, ric <[email hidden]> :: dropped the following oil-slick: :: ::: Hi All, ::: I've a Windows Mobile phone with a bluetooth GPS receiver that's ::: great for car navigation. ::: I now want to use it on my bike :: :: My own feeling for on-bike use is to go for a rugged waterproof :: solution such as the Garmin 26xx/27xx Streetpilot series. PDA / :: Smart-phones on a vibrating bike in bad weather is *not* a :: combination I would be happy with. But then I am a hardened tourer :: not a fair-weather local bike cafe frequenter. 😉
What's a bike cafe?
Around here it is a cafe that is frequented by cyclists often in great numbers.
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:20:35 +0100, Don Whybrow <[email hidden]> dropped the following oil-slick:
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Dave said:
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What's a bike cafe?
Around here it is a cafe that is frequented by cyclists often in great numbers.
Thus showing the quality of it's CAKE.
Or more like of its FEB. 🙂 -- gomez Honda TransAlp,KTM 640LC Enduro (For Sale) (not is not to reply) "The best tool for the job is the hammer thats nearest to hand"