bike commuter post

In article <[email hidden]>,

alan' .@. said:

i am beginning to feel victimized on my commutes and there's been a lot of
holiday catharsis out there on the streets lately. today some guy whizzed by
me in his car. i was going 22 in a 25 one lane residential. he passed me and
the immediately braked to park (i get that a lot). i had to swerve right
when he passed and then swerve left around him when he jammed on his brakes.
i almost ran into his rear bumper but was able to swerve around. i just gave
him the evil eye and then immedately came upon a little traffic delay.
somebody was having a hard time parallel parking and another person was
honking loudly without going around. i went around the other guy who was
paying so much attention to punishing the parker he didnt realize he was
doing the same thing! when i passed him saw that his face was very red and
the veins in his neck were sticking out. i'm getting a lot better at not
getting too mad and this time i just felt bad for him because he just seemed
so stuck in his car. he looked like such an asshat fuming in his car like
that.

anyway just want to post it here for moral support - keep you eyes and ears
open and stay safe out there!

We'll all feel and fare much better, come January 2nd. Even tho'
we'll be into those 2 months of oppressing climatic gloom.
I still think January and February should be rolled up into one
month called Bleakember. Anyhow, I, too have noticed a lot of
manifested impatience on the streets lately. But it'll pass.
As a Canadian, I think there's a lot of NHL withdrawal affecting
traffic, too.

cheers,
Tom

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alan .@. said:

i am beginning to feel victimized on my commutes and there's been a lot
of
holiday catharsis out there on the streets lately. today some guy
whizzed by
me in his car. i was going 22 in a 25 one lane residential. he passed me
and
the immediately braked to park (i get that a lot). i had to swerve right
when he passed and then swerve left around him when he jammed on his
brakes.
i almost ran into his rear bumper but was able to swerve around. i just
gave
him the evil eye and then immedately came upon a little traffic delay.
somebody was having a hard time parallel parking and another person was
honking loudly without going around. i went around the other guy who was
paying so much attention to punishing the parker he didnt realize he was
doing the same thing! when i passed him saw that his face was very red
and
the veins in his neck were sticking out. i'm getting a lot better at not
getting too mad and this time i just felt bad for him because he just
seemed
so stuck in his car. he looked like such an asshat fuming in his car like
that.

anyway just want to post it here for moral support - keep you eyes and
ears
open and stay safe out there!
-ag

I hear you and I don't even ride in the city that much for the very
reasons you just mentioned. On a bad day I may have stuck my middle
finger up the guys nose, barring a 6 foot 300 pounder, of course.
Some people just shouldn't be let out of their cages, the zoo type,
not the car. I see a lot of drugged out types in my area that
don't have a clue, but then again I am living in California in
a low rent town. By choice since I hate the big city these days.
Born in Chicago, raised in and around it, moved to Silicon Valley
and had too much of people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down. Idiots with money and
not much more. I have my bikes and my freedom and work when needed.
Rich is a state of mind, and Bill Gates should be so lucky.
I picture him dropping dead while bragging about how great
Windows 2014 will be when it is released in 2018.
A few bugs to work out.
Bike over bucks for me.

--
Bill (?) Ba__ka

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Bill Baka said:

I hear you and I don't even ride in the city that much for the very
reasons you just mentioned.

There are Chinese artisans who carve jade bowls. They carve
and carve and carve, and the bowl gets thinner and thinner
and thinner. If they're lucky, the bowl doesn't break. But
it often does. City riding might be a similar test of patience
and perserverence. It's just another kind of challenge -- of
something to master. And it has its rewards.

cheers,
Tom

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill Baka said:

I hear you and I don't even ride in the city that much for the very
reasons you just mentioned.

There are Chinese artisans who carve jade bowls. They carve
and carve and carve, and the bowl gets thinner and thinner
and thinner. If they're lucky, the bowl doesn't break. But
it often does. City riding might be a similar test of patience
and perserverence. It's just another kind of challenge -- of
something to master. And it has its rewards.

cheers,
Tom

Try City shopping mall with a car and a bike, you will feel the
difference. I was in the city mall with my bike today, I couldn't
believe the mall streets are bumper to bumper. I was saying" wow look
at these crazy drivers brought a car, why not try bike?." Look at me,
I was going fast than these jamming traffic cars. I could pass anywhere
any time. Specially in holiday, it's going to get a lots worst for
a driver.

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Could not agree more. Shopping on the bike is such a pleasure. Stop where you want, pop in , get your bits and pieces and move on. The car guys just do not know what a nice life is like.
As for drivers, plently of lights, plenty of bright colours for next 2 months. Bought a pair of glo gloves lately. These are a good safey addition.

Brian

In article said:

I see a lot of drugged out types in my area that
don't have a clue, but then again I am living in California in
a low rent town. By choice since I hate the big city these days.
Born in Chicago, raised in and around it, moved to Silicon Valley
and had too much of people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Excuse me Bill but lowrent and Silicon Valley is an oxymoron. Where is this
lowrent town? I had a friend work up there and paid something over $100 a week
to sleep under someone's dining room table. Of course this was the booming 90's
so things may have changed by now.

whinds said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bill Baka <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I see a lot of drugged out types in my area that
don't have a clue, but then again I am living in California in
a low rent town. By choice since I hate the big city these days.
Born in Chicago, raised in and around it, moved to Silicon Valley
and had too much of people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Excuse me Bill but lowrent and Silicon Valley is an oxymoron. Where is
this
lowrent town? I had a friend work up there and paid something over $100
a week
to sleep under someone's dining room table. Of course this was the
booming 90's
so things may have changed by now.

I moved out of Silicon Valley in 1978 and up to the Yuba City/Marysville
area.
It WAS a nice small town but now is becoming a bedroom community for
Sacramento. I still go down to Silicon Valley for work when I can't do it
by telecommute and to see friends but no way in hell would I want to live
there anymore. I went to high school at Campbell when Campbell avenue was
still a dirt road in 1963. When I was down there in 1998 I went into a
Taco Bell for a burrito and was floored by the fact they were offering
$12.75/Hr for counter help. Up here it is still a minimum wage job.
Right now my wife is working and I am waiting for January to start
poking around for work again. I do a lot of consulting so there are
busy times and biking times. Motels in Silicon Valley have gotten to the
point of ridiculous, with even a Motel 6 being close to $100/night.
Real estate is insane down there. My parents bought a house in 1963
for $13,000 and a 4-plex rental for $42,000 then split up in 1966 and sold
both properties (bad move). I could have bought a house in Campbell in 1973
for $31,000 or North San Jose (good area then) in 1978 for $64,000 but
moved up here instead. If I had bought one of those houses I could have
bought more and retired about ten years ago, but hey, who knew? Now there
are houses being built in Alviso, which smelled like a big sewer last time
I was there, so they must be getting real desperate for land to build
way overpriced houses on.
As far as biking down there, I would consider it suicidal with all the
people trying to commute through that mess. Getting out of Sunnyvale on
a Friday night to come home is a no go until about 7:30 PM. I worked at
Quicklogic in 1998 and the just put some ice chests full of beer in
front of the building for those of us that had to wait. 237 was a
parking lot so nobody even bothered to try until after at least 7:00.
I still keep in contact with some guys who own a company in Los Gatos,
but worked last in Healdsburg, where I had a mountain to ride around
before work, at lunchtime, and after work. Plenty of good roads to
ride up that way but 9/11 and Bush dusted that job, and nearly the
whole company. That one I do miss what with all the wine country
roads and all to explore. Almost 3 years and I was still finding
new places to ride, on my 'Huffy'. They had a bike rack inside the
building and a shower for the 4 of us that rode in. I stayed at a
motel in Healdsburg for cheap since I helped the owner with his
computer and was a long term overnighter.
I think I may have over responded here, but my coffee is kicking in.
Time to ride as soon as the fog lifts.

--
Bill (?) Ba__ka

whinds said:

In article said:

I see a lot of drugged out types in my area that
don't have a clue, but then again I am living in California in
a low rent town. By choice since I hate the big city these days.
Born in Chicago, raised in and around it, moved to Silicon Valley
and had too much of people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Excuse me Bill but lowrent and Silicon Valley is an oxymoron. Where is this
lowrent town? I had a friend work up there and paid something over $100 a week
to sleep under someone's dining room table. Of course this was the booming 90's
so things may have changed by now.

You misunderstand, he left Silicon Valley. And the booming 90's are
over, we now have a Republican president. Rents are low, and palm trees
grow (at least at In 'N Out).

Whenever someone at work brags about the paper profit on his or her
property, I ask them to show me the money. I tell people that I live in
a $60,000 house in Silicon Valley, and they are shocked until I explain
that that's what it should be worth, not what I paid for it or what I
could sell it for.

One guy at work, a good guy (hard core bicyclist, chromolly frame),
actually did figure a way to get his megabuck equity out of his house in
Palo Alto. He commutes from Eugene Oregon and rents his Palo Alto house
out, and rents a small apartment in Sunnyvale (where rents have plunged
even as prices have skyrocketed). He's selling his house in Palo Alto
for $1.2 million and buying five or six properties in Oregon on a 1031
exchange.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

alan' .@. said:

i am beginning to feel victimized on my commutes and there's been a lot of
holiday catharsis out there on the streets lately.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

anyway just want to post it here for moral support - keep you eyes and ears
open and stay safe out there!

We'll all feel and fare much better, come January 2nd. Even tho'
we'll be into those 2 months of oppressing climatic gloom.
I still think January and February should be rolled up into one
month called Bleakember. Anyhow, I, too have noticed a lot of
manifested impatience on the streets lately. But it'll pass.
As a Canadian, I think there's a lot of NHL withdrawal affecting
traffic, too.

I found a great way to feel better: I went to Ottawa for a week. Nice
town, but a week of its weather has convinced me that Vancouver is
really, really warm in the winter.

BTW, the -10 C typical daytime temperatures did not deter some hardcore
cyclists in our nation's capital.

Also, I am on vacation now, but didn't bring my bike to Ottawa, and am
raring for a ride, but now my shoulder is acting up (you know it's bad
when Tylenol-3 with Codeine doesn't do anything for the pain). So that
sucks.

Oh well, time to cut a tree.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

Steven M. Scharf said:

whinds said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bill Baka <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I see a lot of drugged out types in my area that
don't have a clue, but then again I am living in California in
a low rent town. By choice since I hate the big city these days.
Born in Chicago, raised in and around it, moved to Silicon Valley
and had too much of people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Excuse me Bill but lowrent and Silicon Valley is an oxymoron. Where is
this
lowrent town? I had a friend work up there and paid something over $100
a week
to sleep under someone's dining room table. Of course this was the
booming 90's
so things may have changed by now.

You misunderstand, he left Silicon Valley. And the booming 90's are
over, we now have a Republican president. Rents are low, and palm trees
grow (at least at In 'N Out).

That is one to figure out. Bush brags about the economy but the last time
it was good we had Clinton. The Reagan/Bush#1 years were kind of slow too.

Quoted message said:

Whenever someone at work brags about the paper profit on his or her
property, I ask them to show me the money. I tell people that I live in
a $60,000 house in Silicon Valley, and they are shocked until I explain
that that's what it should be worth, not what I paid for it or what I
could sell it for.

Sounds about right. The thing that drove me up the wall is that all the
braggers were Chinese. That was most of the engineering dept.
The manager was white, like me, and all the other engineers were Chinese.
When we had meetings, the Chinese guys would start arguing in Chinese, and
the manager and I would just look at each other and shake our heads. After
a few minutes he would start glaring at them and then they would all sit
down again and go back to English. They always made up some lame excuse
for why they all stood up and shouted at each other in Chinese. Part of
the weird work world in the Valley.

Quoted message said:

One guy at work, a good guy (hard core bicyclist, chromolly frame),
actually did figure a way to get his megabuck equity out of his house in
Palo Alto. He commutes from Eugene Oregon and rents his Palo Alto house
out, and rents a small apartment in Sunnyvale (where rents have plunged
even as prices have skyrocketed). He's selling his house in Palo Alto
for $1.2 million and buying five or six properties in Oregon on a 1031
exchange.

Something I should have thought of but I never thought the real estate
would go nuts like it has. My 1963, $13,000 house is now at about $600K,
the 4 plex rental is over $1 million, and the other two I could have had
are both at about $800,000. I saw a garden variety 3 bedroom, 2 bath, in
Sunnyvale advertised for $1.2 million. What's up with that? Insanity.
I may not have made a killing in the real estate market but at least I
don't have to spend 45 minutes of my lunch hour waiting in line or
traffic to go to a fast food place. I think that area has more restaurants
per person than anywhere else I have ever been. If I had stayed there I
may have keeled over from the stress and lack of riding, so here I am.
More or less broke but happier than being down there. Healthier too.

--
Bill (?) Ba__ka

Bill Baka first said:

moved to Silicon Valley and had too much of
people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Then later:

Quoted message said:

My parents bought a house in 1963 for $13,000
and a 4-plex rental for $42,000 then split up
in 1966 and sold both properties (bad move).
I could have bought a house in Campbell in 1973
for $31,000 or North San Jose (good area then)
in 1978 for $64,000 but moved up here instead.
If I had bought one of those houses I could
have bought more and retired about ten years
ago, but hey, who knew? Now there are houses
being built in Alviso, which smelled like a
big sewer last time I was there, so they must
be getting real desperate for land to build
way overpriced houses on.

So... talking about insane real estate values is
only OK if you didn't get in on it?

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

"Diablo Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bill Baka first said:

moved to Silicon Valley and had too much of
people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Then later:

Quoted message said:

My parents bought a house in 1963 for $13,000
and a 4-plex rental for $42,000 then split up
in 1966 and sold both properties (bad move).
I could have bought a house in Campbell in 1973
for $31,000 or North San Jose (good area then)
in 1978 for $64,000 but moved up here instead.
If I had bought one of those houses I could
have bought more and retired about ten years
ago, but hey, who knew? Now there are houses
being built in Alviso, which smelled like a
big sewer last time I was there, so they must
be getting real desperate for land to build
way overpriced houses on.

So... talking about insane real estate values is
only OK if you didn't get in on it?

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

it's all the Chinese' fault

alan said:

i am beginning to feel victimized on my commutes and there's been a
lot of holiday catharsis out there on the streets lately. today some
guy whizzed by me in his car. i was going 22 in a 25 one lane
residential. he passed me and the immediately braked to park (i get
that a lot). i had to swerve right when he passed and then swerve
left around him when he jammed on his brakes. i almost ran into his
rear bumper but was able to swerve around. i just gave him the evil
eye and then immedately came upon a little traffic delay. somebody
was having a hard time parallel parking and another person was
honking loudly without going around. i went around the other guy who
was paying so much attention to punishing the parker he didnt realize
he was doing the same thing! when i passed him saw that his face was
very red and the veins in his neck were sticking out. i'm getting a
lot better at not getting too mad and this time i just felt bad for
him because he just seemed so stuck in his car. he looked like such
an asshat fuming in his car like that.

anyway just want to post it here for moral support - keep you eyes
and ears open and stay safe out there!

Traffic is the worst, and drivers the most aggravated this time of year, with
everyone trying to get their holiday shopping done. Be careful out there,
whether you're riding or driving.

Matt O.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Matt O'Toole said:

Traffic is the worst, and drivers the most aggravated this time of year, with
everyone trying to get their holiday shopping done. Be careful out there,
whether you're riding or driving.

Just a few minutes ago there was a massive collision
right outside the house where I live. 6 vehicles
involved, one of them is upside down in our front yard
as I write this. 3 others are up on the sidewalk
in front of the duplex next door, one of them with
injured occupants trapped inside (I think they're
the only injuries; they're conscious and lucid.)
It looks like a flatbed truck lost control and took
out 3 parked cars, and 2 cars that were moving.
A big 'yard sale' of car contents is scattered all
across Main St. The Emergency Response people are
taking care of it. But what a mess!

regards,
Tom

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Cousineau said:

I found a great way to feel better: I went to Ottawa for a week. Nice
town, but a week of its weather has convinced me that Vancouver is
really, really warm in the winter.

Yeah, but it's a wet heat.

Quoted message said:

BTW, the -10 C typical daytime temperatures did not deter some hardcore
cyclists in our nation's capital.

Have you done any outdoor ice skating there? If so, please
tell us about it. Every now & then I'm getting a twinge of
an urge to strap on a pair of blades, myself.

Quoted message said:

Also, I am on vacation now, but didn't bring my bike to Ottawa, and am
raring for a ride, but now my shoulder is acting up (you know it's bad
when Tylenol-3 with Codeine doesn't do anything for the pain). So that
sucks.

Wet heat, and Absorbine Jr. I've been getting some sort of
shoulder palsy thing, too. I guess from excessive shoveling.
As soon as it starts to ease up, I end up having to do more
shoveling. I hope that isn't an harbinger of snow in the
near future.

Quoted message said:

Oh well, time to cut a tree.

Is a potted, live one out of the question?

cheers,
Tom

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alan .@. said:

"Diablo Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bill Baka first said:

moved to Silicon Valley and had too much of
people in the lunch room bragging about how
much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Then later:

Quoted message said:

My parents bought a house in 1963 for $13,000
and a 4-plex rental for $42,000 then split up
in 1966 and sold both properties (bad move).
I could have bought a house in Campbell in 1973
for $31,000 or North San Jose (good area then)
in 1978 for $64,000 but moved up here instead.
If I had bought one of those houses I could
have bought more and retired about ten years
ago, but hey, who knew? Now there are houses
being built in Alviso, which smelled like a
big sewer last time I was there, so they must
be getting real desperate for land to build
way overpriced houses on.

So... talking about insane real estate values is
only OK if you didn't get in on it?

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

it's all the Chinese' fault

Not really. I moved out before all the Chinese engineers appeared.
That lunch room bragging was in 1998. Besides, as I said, money
is nice, but does no good if you can't enjoy it. Ever seen the
traffic on Friday night with almost everyone trying to get out
of the valley for the weekend? It is a giant parking lot until
9:00 PM sometimes. Want to live there? Not me. I used to think
that he who dies with the most toys/money wins the game, but then
I got smart and gave it up. I was working 2 full time jobs at one
point, before I got married, and had more money than I really
knew what to do with, but slept through the weekend recharging
for the next week. I would work graveyard as a technician/lead, then
go across the street, chug some coffee and do my daytime project
engineer job. With luck I might have gotten 4 hours of sleep a night
but I had an idiot roommate who liked to party as I tried to sleep.
Got rid of the roommate, then got rid of the night job after burnout.
That was 1976, my high roller year. It's all irrelevant in 100 years
anyway, so I chose to move up here and enjoy less crowding. The money
is there for me to make when I want to so I am not that put out about
building my equity (or not).
I do miss riding and hiking Big Basin and Santa Cruz beach with the
eye candy, but biking into the back woods and finding remnants of
ghost towns is more fun these days.
Back to cleaning, fogged in today.
There is nothing quite as bad as a winter fog in Californias central
valley to take out the urge to ride. No sun, 42 degrees, and you can
maybe see across the street. Not riding is more sane than being a car
target for some shopper.

--
Bill (?) Ba__ka

"Bill Baka" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

alan .@. said:

"Diablo Scott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Bill Baka first wrote:
>moved to Silicon Valley and had too much of
>people in the lunch room bragging about how
> much their homes' equity has gone up/down.

Then later:
>My parents bought a house in 1963 for $13,000
>and a 4-plex rental for $42,000 then split up
>in 1966 and sold both properties (bad move).
>I could have bought a house in Campbell in 1973
>for $31,000 or North San Jose (good area then)
>in 1978 for $64,000 but moved up here instead.
>If I had bought one of those houses I could
>have bought more and retired about ten years
>ago, but hey, who knew? Now there are houses
>being built in Alviso, which smelled like a
>big sewer last time I was there, so they must
>be getting real desperate for land to build
>way overpriced houses on.

So... talking about insane real estate values is
only OK if you didn't get in on it?

--
My bike blog:
http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

it's all the Chinese' fault

Not really. I moved out before all the Chinese engineers appeared.
That lunch room bragging was in 1998. Besides, as I said, money
is nice, but does no good if you can't enjoy it. Ever seen the
traffic on Friday night with almost everyone trying to get out
of the valley for the weekend? It is a giant parking lot until
9:00 PM sometimes. Want to live there? Not me. I used to think
that he who dies with the most toys/money wins the game, but then
I got smart and gave it up. I was working 2 full time jobs at one
point, before I got married, and had more money than I really
knew what to do with, but slept through the weekend recharging
for the next week. I would work graveyard as a technician/lead, then
go across the street, chug some coffee and do my daytime project
engineer job. With luck I might have gotten 4 hours of sleep a night
but I had an idiot roommate who liked to party as I tried to sleep.
Got rid of the roommate, then got rid of the night job after burnout.
That was 1976, my high roller year. It's all irrelevant in 100 years
anyway, so I chose to move up here and enjoy less crowding. The money
is there for me to make when I want to so I am not that put out about
building my equity (or not).
I do miss riding and hiking Big Basin and Santa Cruz beach with the
eye candy, but biking into the back woods and finding remnants of
ghost towns is more fun these days.
Back to cleaning, fogged in today.
There is nothing quite as bad as a winter fog in Californias central
valley to take out the urge to ride. No sun, 42 degrees, and you can
maybe see across the street. Not riding is more sane than being a car
target for some shopper.

--
Bill (?) Ba__ka

sorry, i was just kidding about the chinese thing. i have worked alongside
immigrants my whole life and know enough tagalog to get along.
when i start to get annoyed i just think to myself "well, if i moved to a
non-english speaking country i would probably enjoy speaking english with my
co workers when i could.
i'm totally with you on the money thing. my wife and i decided a few years
ago to try to work 30 hours per week or so. it makes a huge difference! why
should we be so stressed out so that we can have whatever mad. ave says we
should have? i have a much better time shopping for improbable t shirts at
thriftko or v.v. than i would at nordstrom (and
they're only a buck!).
on equity (and bragging about) well, hey houses are for living in. that's
the value. i remember sj in the early 80's damn has it changed! it used to
be more like oxnard.
-alan

alan said:

i am beginning to feel victimized on my commutes and there's been a lot of
holiday catharsis out there on the streets lately. today some guy whizzed by
me in his car. i was going 22 in a 25 one lane residential. he passed me and
the immediately braked to park (i get that a lot). i had to swerve right
when he passed and then swerve left around him when he jammed on his brakes.
i almost ran into his rear bumper but was able to swerve around. i just gave
him the evil eye and then immedately came upon a little traffic delay.
somebody was having a hard time parallel parking and another person was
honking loudly without going around. i went around the other guy who was
paying so much attention to punishing the parker he didnt realize he was
doing the same thing! when i passed him saw that his face was very red and
the veins in his neck were sticking out. i'm getting a lot better at not
getting too mad and this time i just felt bad for him because he just seemed
so stuck in his car. he looked like such an asshat fuming in his car like
that.

anyway just want to post it here for moral support - keep you eyes and ears
open and stay safe out there!
-ag

Don't forget that they will die sooner from high blood pressure than you
will.

Bill Baka said:

Steven M. Scharf said:

You misunderstand, he left Silicon Valley. And the booming 90's are
over, we now have a Republican president. Rents are low, and palm
trees grow (at least at In 'N Out).

That is one to figure out. Bush brags about the economy but the last time
it was good we had Clinton. The Reagan/Bush#1 years were kind of slow too.

You must have missed the Reagan economy then.

It started out rather poor during '81 and '82 but ended
up among the best. It petered out during the Bush
Presidency, then began to pick up during the waning days
of that administration.

The great Clinton economy petered out during the final
months of that administration.

SMH