Bicyclists' Wiener

In article <[email hidden]>,

(TheCycleKing) said:

Just kidding. Made you look!

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot mustard
& cold sauerkraut.

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' -- 'i' before
'e', as in 'Vienna'.

cheers, Tom

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot mustard
& cold sauerkraut.

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

Quoted message said:

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' -- 'i'
before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

"Vee-enn-uh", "Wee-enn-err"?

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm
pretty sure "weiner" is german-derived, where I think E
before I is common.

I'm probably wrong. I just did a little googling and now
believe that you are correct. I will, however, continue to
be wrong. So there!

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner -- two entirely
different foods, similar in appearance and construction, but
dissimilar in ingredients (AFAIK) and served differently.

"New York System Hot Weiners" apparently only exist in Rhode
Island. They are yummy, and most definitely not hot dogs.
They are often served loaded with toppings, although I don't
know what they all are, since I tend to get them plain, or
with "meat sauce", a ground meat product of unknown origin
which is very different from one weiner joint to the next.

If you can tolerate the awful fake typed approximation of a
stereotypical overblown accent, here's some RI-only foods:
pagesintime.comnys recipes.htmlOpen ↗

Oscar Mayer weiners are hot dogs.

Coney Island weiners are icky.
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Rick Onanian said:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden]

(Tom Keats) said:

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

I guess one man's ruination is another's enhancement. I was
going to say "one man's meat is another man's poison", but
hey -- we're already talking about sausage meat anyways.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' -- 'i'
before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

"Vee-enn-uh", "Wee-enn-err"?

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm
pretty sure "weiner" is german-derived, where I think E
before I is common.

I'm probably wrong. I just did a little googling and now
believe that you are correct. I will, however, continue to
be wrong. So there!

Here's another item for your pedant's toolbelt: Etymology
Online: etymonline.comw2etym.htmOpen ↗

'wiener - 1904, shortening of wienerwurst (1889), from Ger.
Wiener "of Vienna" (from Wien "Vienna"😉 + Wurst "sausage."
Clipped form wienie is attested from 1911. Extensive
pejorative senses developed from its penis-like shape.'

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

Quoted message said:

-- two entirely different foods, similar in appearance and
construction, but dissimilar in ingredients (AFAIK) and
served differently.

"New York System Hot Weiners" apparently only exist in
Rhode Island. They are yummy, and most definitely not hot
dogs. They are often served loaded with toppings, although
I don't know what they all are, since I tend to get them
plain, or with "meat sauce", a ground meat product of
unknown origin which is very different from one weiner
joint to the next.

If you can tolerate the awful fake typed approximation of
a stereotypical overblown accent, here's some RI-only
foods: pagesintime.comnys recipes.htmlOpen ↗

Oscar Mayer weiners are hot dogs.

Coney Island weiners are icky.

Thanx for the info. I'll use it wisely.

cheers, Tom

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Rick Onanian said:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden]

(Tom Keats) said:

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

Why would you eat something with the flavour of hot dogs to
begin with, if real sausages were available?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' -- 'i'
before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

"Vee-enn-uh", "Wee-enn-err"?

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm
pretty sure "weiner" is german-derived, where I think E
before I is common.

It's derived from ... Vienna!

"Weiner" in German would be pronounced something like
"viner". Generally when you see two adjacent vowels in
German, you pronounce the second vowel. Perhaps in English,
"weiner" should be pronounced "whiner".

Wienerwurst = Vienna sausage.

Quoted message said:

I'm probably wrong. I just did a little googling and now
believe that you are correct. I will, however, continue to
be wrong. So there!

What do you hope to acheive with this mischeif?

--
Benjamin Lewis

Hey! I'm only fourteen, sickly 'n' thin Tried all of my life
just to grow me a chin It popped out once, but my dad pushed
it in. -- FZ

Benjamin Lewis said:

Why would you eat something with the flavour of hot dogs to
begin with, if real sausages were available?

What business do I have with sausages? I like hot dogs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that you are correct. I will, however, continue to be
wrong. So there!

What do you hope to acheive with this mischeif?

My spell checker say it's "mischief".
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Rick Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

Quoted message said:

What do you hope to acheive with this mischeif?

My spell checker say it's "mischief".

Good, but if it doesn't also say "achieve", then you
need a new spell checker. Now stop giving me greif, you
fraeky wierdo.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is
farther away.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) I said:

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

I must amend, or even withdraw that last statement. Benjamin
Weiner is an alright guy, with good & astute things to say
about cycling.

I dunno how he feels about whiners. Or a nice, apropos glass
of wein. I like a lightly cooled (but not /too/ chilled)
Riesling with shellfish -- especially aw-baloney.

cheers, Tom

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Benjamin Lewis said:

Why would you eat something with the flavour of hot dogs
to begin with, if real sausages were available?

I wish. My brother has a place near to him, but it's an
abattoir. You've gotta give them the beef on the hoof, and
then tell them what to do with it. The main guy there makes
lovely kubasa (especially when handed some of the hand-grown
garlic I've so well taken care of); I bet he could do
knackwurst, too.

Supermarket shrink-wrapped, pre-sliced, nitrate-laden
'sausage' just doesn't make the cut. I know. I ate a bunch
of Safeway hunter's sausage the other night (washed down
with some Stella Artois) and had to leave my own bedroom
before the sun came up. Real food and potables oughtn't have
such horrendous, sulphurous effects. Good thing I'm single.
So now I'm on a sauerkraut jag, just to purge and detoxify
my digestive system. Sauerkraut is to me what a pull-through
is to a dirty rifle barrel.

cheers, Tom

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Bernie said:

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson. Bernie

Sometimes you can be even worse than me :-)

cheers, Tom

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) I said:

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

I must amend, or even withdraw that last statement.
Benjamin Weiner is an alright guy, with good & astute
things to say about cycling.

I dunno how he feels about whiners. Or a nice, apropos
glass of wein. I like a lightly cooled (but not /too/
chilled) Riesling with shellfish -- especially aw-baloney.

cheers, Tom

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson. Bernie

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bernie <bmcilvan@mouse-

potato.com said:

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson. Bernie

Sometimes you can be even worse than me :-)

cheers, Tom

Geez, thanks! 🙂

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(TheCycleKing) said:

Just kidding. Made you look!

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot mustard
& cold sauerkraut.

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' -- 'i'
before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

cheers, Tom

When in Vienna don't ask for a Wiener. Ask for a
Frankfurter. In Germany you call them Wieners.

David L. Johnson said:

Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of
so much that you must disguise the flavor? We're not talking
about something healthy here.
--
Rick Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

David L. Johnson said:

Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of
so much that you must disguise the flavor?

Because you're barricaded in a convenience store surrounded
by zombies, and it's your only source of protein, of course.

--
Benjamin Lewis

I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in
cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way
obstructed interstate commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:19 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of
so much that you must disguise the flavor? We're not
talking about something healthy here.
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For the record, onioins and mustard enhance the flavor of
wieners, not hide it. If you are asking why anyone would go
beyond that, I have to agree with your sentiment.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
two wheels...

"TheCycleKing" wrote: Just kidding. Made you look!
^^^^^^^^^^ I *didn't* look. What makes you think I looked?

Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:19 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Rick Onanian

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all
sorts of garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of
so much that you must disguise the flavor? We're not
talking about something healthy here.

Lots of pickle relish. You need to eat your greens.
--
zk

In article <[email hidden]>,

Benjamin Lewis said:

Quoted message said:

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor
of so much that you must disguise the flavor?

Because you're barricaded in a convenience store
surrounded by zombies, and it's your only source of
protein, of course.

Sometimes the urge for a li'l tube steak boogie is
overwhelming, despite the offals with which the damnable
things are made.

Hot dogs are reputed to be the world's favourite sandwich.
But then, I've heard it said: 'popular taste is poor taste.'
Still, it's rather freeing to be a lowbrow.

I've gotta try one of those 'slaw dogs. Where is it they
make 'em? ISTR a docu on PBS about dawgs, a couple of
years ago, wherein they mentioned slaw dogs. It might have
been St Louis.

cheers, Tom

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Zoot Katz said:

Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:19 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Rick Onanian

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting
> all sorts of garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of
so much that you must disguise the flavor? We're not
talking about something healthy here.

Lots of pickle relish. You need to eat your greens.

Rhubarb chutney! Damn, that sounds good.

cheers, Tom

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