Bicyclists' Wiener

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(TheCycleKing) said:

Just kidding. Made you look!

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' --
'i' before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

cheers,
Tom

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

Quoted message said:

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' --
'i' before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

"Vee-enn-uh", "Wee-enn-err"?

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm pretty sure
"weiner" is german-derived, where I think E before I is common.

I'm probably wrong. I just did a little googling and now believe
that you are correct. I will, however, continue to be wrong. So
there!

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner -- two entirely different
foods, similar in appearance and construction, but dissimilar in
ingredients (AFAIK) and served differently.

"New York System Hot Weiners" apparently only exist in Rhode Island.
They are yummy, and most definitely not hot dogs. They are often
served loaded with toppings, although I don't know what they all
are, since I tend to get them plain, or with "meat sauce", a ground
meat product of unknown origin which is very different from one
weiner joint to the next.

If you can tolerate the awful fake typed approximation of a
stereotypical overblown accent, here's some RI-only foods:
http://www.pagesintime.com/ri/nys-recipes.html

Oscar Mayer weiners are hot dogs.

Coney Island weiners are icky.
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Rick Onanian

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Rick Onanian said:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

I guess one man's ruination is another's enhancement.
I was going to say "one man's meat is another man's poison",
but hey -- we're already talking about sausage meat anyways.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' --
'i' before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

"Vee-enn-uh", "Wee-enn-err"?

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm pretty sure
"weiner" is german-derived, where I think E before I is common.

I'm probably wrong. I just did a little googling and now believe
that you are correct. I will, however, continue to be wrong. So
there!

Here's another item for your pedant's toolbelt: Etymology Online:
http://www.etymonline.com/w2etym.htm

'wiener - 1904, shortening of wienerwurst
(1889), from Ger. Wiener "of Vienna" (from Wien
"Vienna"😉 + Wurst "sausage." Clipped form
wienie is attested from 1911. Extensive
pejorative senses developed from its penis-like
shape.'

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

Quoted message said:

-- two entirely different
foods, similar in appearance and construction, but dissimilar in
ingredients (AFAIK) and served differently.

"New York System Hot Weiners" apparently only exist in Rhode Island.
They are yummy, and most definitely not hot dogs. They are often
served loaded with toppings, although I don't know what they all
are, since I tend to get them plain, or with "meat sauce", a ground
meat product of unknown origin which is very different from one
weiner joint to the next.

If you can tolerate the awful fake typed approximation of a
stereotypical overblown accent, here's some RI-only foods:
http://www.pagesintime.com/ri/nys-recipes.html

Oscar Mayer weiners are hot dogs.

Coney Island weiners are icky.

Thanx for the info. I'll use it wisely.

cheers,
Tom

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Benjamin Lewis said:

Why would you eat something with the flavour of hot dogs to begin with, if
real sausages were available?

What business do I have with sausages? I like hot dogs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that you are correct. I will, however, continue to be wrong. So
there!

What do you hope to acheive with this mischeif?

My spell checker say it's "mischief".
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Rick Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

Quoted message said:

What do you hope to acheive with this mischeif?

My spell checker say it's "mischief".

Good, but if it doesn't also say "achieve", then you need a new spell
checker. Now stop giving me greif, you fraeky wierdo.

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Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) I said:

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

I must amend, or even withdraw that last statement.
Benjamin Weiner is an alright guy, with good & astute
things to say about cycling.

I dunno how he feels about whiners. Or a nice,
apropos glass of wein. I like a lightly cooled
(but not /too/ chilled) Riesling with shellfish --
especially aw-baloney.

cheers,
Tom

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Benjamin Lewis said:

Why would you eat something with the flavour of hot dogs to begin with, if
real sausages were available?

I wish. My brother has a place near to him, but it's an
abattoir. You've gotta give them the beef on the hoof,
and then tell them what to do with it. The main guy there
makes lovely kubasa (especially when handed some of the
hand-grown garlic I've so well taken care of); I bet he
could do knackwurst, too.

Supermarket shrink-wrapped, pre-sliced, nitrate-laden
'sausage' just doesn't make the cut. I know. I ate a
bunch of Safeway hunter's sausage the other night
(washed down with some Stella Artois) and had to leave
my own bedroom before the sun came up. Real food and
potables oughtn't have such horrendous, sulphurous
effects. Good thing I'm single. So now I'm on a
sauerkraut jag, just to purge and detoxify my digestive
system. Sauerkraut is to me what a pull-through is to
a dirty rifle barrel.

cheers,
Tom

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Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Quoted message said:

I before E [except after C, etc] is an english rule; I'm pretty sure
"weiner" is german-derived, where I think E before I is common.

Both ie and ei are used in German. The one pronounced as an English long
e is ie, ei is pronounced like an English long i. There is an old joke
making this clear, involving the two verbs schiessen and scheissen.

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Tom Keats) I said:

Quoted message said:

I ought to go eat a hot dog. Or, a weiner

I recommend the former. Nobody can stand a weiner.

I must amend, or even withdraw that last statement.
Benjamin Weiner is an alright guy, with good & astute
things to say about cycling.

I dunno how he feels about whiners. Or a nice,
apropos glass of wein. I like a lightly cooled
(but not /too/ chilled) Riesling with shellfish --
especially aw-baloney.

cheers,
Tom

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson.
Bernie

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Bernie said:

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson.
Bernie

Sometimes you can be even worse than me :-)

cheers,
Tom

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bernie said:

Well, one man's fish is another mans' poisson.
Bernie

Sometimes you can be even worse than me :-)

cheers,
Tom

Geez, thanks! 🙂

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:19:55 -0700, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(TheCycleKing) said:

Just kidding. Made you look!

I just had a couple of hot dogs for lunch, with hot
mustard & cold sauerkraut.

My compliments for correctly spelling 'wiener' --
'i' before 'e', as in 'Vienna'.

cheers,
Tom

When in Vienna don't ask for a Wiener. Ask for a Frankfurter.
In Germany you call them Wieners.

David L. Johnson said:

Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor? We're not talking about something
healthy here.
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Rick Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

David L. Johnson said:

Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor?

Because you're barricaded in a convenience store surrounded by zombies, and
it's your only source of protein, of course.

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Benjamin Lewis

I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:19 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor? We're not talking about something
healthy here.
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For the record, onioins and mustard enhance the flavor of wieners, not
hide it. If you are asking why anyone would go beyond that, I have to
agree with your sentiment.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

"TheCycleKing" wrote: Just kidding. Made you look!
^^^^^^^^^^
I *didn't* look. What makes you think I looked?

Rick Onanian said:

David L. Johnson said:

Rick Onanian said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor? We're not talking about something
healthy here.

I have no idea why people would do that. But, then, I don't eat the
things.

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_`\(,_ | That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
(_)/ (_) | attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism
and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any
<country. -- Hermann Goering

Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:20:19 -0400,
<[email hidden]>, Rick Onanian

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Why would you ruin the flavor of hot dogs by putting all sorts of
garbage on them?

To disguise the flavor, of course.

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor? We're not talking about something
healthy here.

Lots of pickle relish. You need to eat your greens.
--
zk

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Benjamin Lewis said:

Quoted message said:

Why would you eat something that you dislike the flavor of so much
that you must disguise the flavor?

Because you're barricaded in a convenience store surrounded by zombies, and
it's your only source of protein, of course.

Sometimes the urge for a li'l tube steak boogie is overwhelming,
despite the offals with which the damnable things are made.

Hot dogs are reputed to be the world's favourite sandwich.
But then, I've heard it said: 'popular taste is poor taste.'
Still, it's rather freeing to be a lowbrow.

I've gotta try one of those 'slaw dogs. Where is it they make 'em?
ISTR a docu on PBS about dawgs, a couple of years ago, wherein
they mentioned slaw dogs. It might have been St Louis.

cheers,
Tom

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