BICYCLE MAGAZINE?????????????

"Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Since I decided to ride a bike, join a club and sign up for a few
rides...I also thought I would buy a subscription to Bicycling
Magazine. The mag came in the mail today and it's called the sex
issue. Did I subscribe to the wrong mag or is this just a special
issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists have
more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.
My husband had a field day with the magazine since he thinks people
who ride bicycles are dorks. (Actually he used another word)
Hopefully the next mag will have actual articles instead of polls on
how many cyclists make pit stops to have sex and what is the most
erotic bike part. Is this usual for this magazine? Is there another
one that actually has articles about Cycling? This is supposed to be
the worlds leading bicycle mag...so it says.

was that your husband that tried to run me over today?
-dork

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On 27 Nov 2004 19:38:11 -0800, [email hidden] (Maggie) from

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Since I decided to ride a bike, join a club and sign up for a few
rides...I also thought I would buy a subscription to Bicycling
Magazine. The mag came in the mail today and it's called the sex
issue. Did I subscribe to the wrong mag or is this just a special
issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists have
more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.
My husband had a field day with the magazine since he thinks people
who ride bicycles are dorks. (Actually he used another word)
Hopefully the next mag will have actual articles instead of polls on
how many cyclists make pit stops to have sex and what is the most
erotic bike part. Is this usual for this magazine? Is there another
one that actually has articles about Cycling? This is supposed to be
the worlds leading bicycle mag...so it says.

You bought Buy Cycling For Whitey. It's a horrible magazine. There are

plenty

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of better magazines out there, and I'll let you discover the,

Buy Cycling For Whitey as opposed to what? The only minority-centered
bicycling magazine is Lowrider Bicycle, and I don't think Maggie is
interested in twisted chrome frames and 128 spoke wheels. Bicycle centered
magazines are going to lean toward the hobbyist or racer, and all magazines
are dependent on advertisers to survive. But you're just being Kevan, so I
guess we shouldn't take you seriously.

27 Nov 2004 19:38:11 -0800,
<[email hidden]>,

(Maggie) said:

Did I subscribe to the wrong mag

Yes, sorta. There's often interesting articles for neophytes but
realise that most of them are more accurately infomercials.

We usually don't need the gewgaws they're touting as the latest "must
have" items. It's more for consumers than cyclists.

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or is this just a special
issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists have
more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.

I wouldn't think it a special issue as it's a fact that's apparently
been well known among cyclists far longer than I've been riding.

Cycling is full of surprises.
--
zk

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Did I subscribe to the wrong mag

The subscription is pretty cheap and if you expect to get a strictly
advertising based magazine, you won't be disappointed. If they say a
product is merely good this means it is terrible. Years ago they had actual
reviews on new products. Now they have 5 words and some pictures. Others
say there are better magazines, but I don't know what they are for a
beginner. The idea of a semi objective review of new products would be a
good magazine, but it would cost more than a buck an issue by subscription.

"Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Since I decided to ride a bike, join a club and sign up for a few
rides...I also thought I would buy a subscription to Bicycling
Magazine. The mag came in the mail today and it's called the sex
issue. Did I subscribe to the wrong mag or is this just a special
issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists have
more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.
My husband had a field day with the magazine since he thinks people
who ride bicycles are dorks. (Actually he used another word)
Hopefully the next mag will have actual articles instead of polls on
how many cyclists make pit stops to have sex and what is the most
erotic bike part. Is this usual for this magazine? Is there another
one that actually has articles about Cycling? This is supposed to be
the worlds leading bicycle mag...so it says.

$30 per year and worth it:
http://www.adventurecycling.org

: > You bought Buy Cycling For Whitey. It's a horrible magazine. There are
: plenty
: > of better magazines out there, and I'll let you discover the,

: Buy Cycling For Whitey as opposed to what? The only minority-centered
: bicycling magazine is Lowrider Bicycle, and I don't think Maggie is
: interested in twisted chrome frames and 128 spoke wheels. Bicycle centered
: magazines are going to lean toward the hobbyist or racer, and all
magazines
: are dependent on advertisers to survive. But you're just being Kevan, so I
: guess we shouldn't take you seriously.

Yeah, somehow, Kevan always brings race into every discussion, doesn't he?
It's not yet February, but I'm already looking forward to his complaints
about cycling magazines not having enough black riders on the cover....

Pat in TX
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"Maggie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Since I decided to ride a bike, join a club and sign up for a few
rides...I also thought I would buy a subscription to Bicycling
Magazine. The mag came in the mail today and it's called the sex
issue. Did I subscribe to the wrong mag

Yes, you did actually. It's a shame, because I'm old enough to
remember when it was a good magazine. I used to keep track of how
popular cycling was in the USA by watching Bicycling's circulation.

Somebody has already mentioned "Adventure Cyclist", which is a far
better magazine. In addition, by subscribing you become a memeber of
the Adventure Cycling Association, which nowadays is, perhaps, more
of a US national organization for cyclists than is the LAB -
something very strange has happened to the LAB.

Adventure Cyclist is rather heavy on articles about people taking
vacations in far off places, and becoming better people by chatting
to the locals. To balance that it has a monthly article by John
Schubert, one of the best bike journalists in the USA, or indeed the
world.

There are two magazines here in England which you might consider.
There's Cycling Plus, one of the last magazines around for people not
especially interested in mountain bikes. It has a sister magazine
for mountain bikes. Find out more at www.cyclingplus.co.uk There's
also the Cyclists' Touring Club, perhaps worth it for the magazine
alone, but which is also a good source of advice, and has a mail
order store. The CTC's magazine comes out every two months, but is
as good as any commercial magazine, and I think has a circulation, in
Britain, rivalling the commercial magazines. The magazine's editor
used to be the editor of Cycling Plus. For more about the CTC see
www.ctc.org.uk

Actually, the London Cycling Campaign's magazine is pretty good. The
LCC is the largest one city bike organization in the world, and so
can support a proper magazine, out every two months. That magazine
is about as opposite from Bicycling as you can get, having probably
the widest range of readers of any bike magazine. As well as the
kind of peeople who might read Bicycling, it has people like little
old ladies with wicker baskets on their handlebars, hard core bike
messengers, and people who believe the correct way to get a new bike
is to find it in a skip, the British equivalent of a dumpster. And
it has the people who belong to the CTC, and subscribe to Cycling
Plus as well. it has people who never go outside the city limits,
and people who go on marathon tours. For the LCC see www.lcc.org.uk

Jeremy Parker
London UK

Buycycling Magazine cashiered all their intelligent editors years ago. Now the rag is written for adolescents with short attention spans. Don't expect it to get any better.

They come out with an article like that every couple of yrs.
I stopped subscribing to that yrs ago as I found it to be a bunch of fluff with not a lot of useful content
Unfortunately, good cycling magazines are hard to find.

Doug

Apologies, Maggie...

Most of the wanna-be crit and century riders that lurk here are 'down' on
Rodale's Bicycling Magazine. None are actual subscribers, so it would seem.
All of them forget that a)there's no advertising revenue in how to cycle on
a budget and b) you don't subscribe to a popular publication for the intense
level of technical knowledge contained therein. If you want details,
ffolkes, get ahold of a trade publication. Bicycling is for enthusiasts,
period...

Personally, I enjoyed the December issue article by Steve Friedman on the
rise and fall of Marco Pantani...

Are they running that AGAIN??? They caught a lot of flak back in the
80's with that.

Guess it's time to renew my subscription to the "14% club"... LOL

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"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

Chris'Z Corner
http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

[email hidden] (Gooserider) wrote

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Buy Cycling For Whitey as opposed to
what? The only minority-centered
bicycling magazine is Lowrider Bicycle,
and I don't think Maggie is interested in
twisted chrome frames and 128 spoke
wheels. Bicycle centered magazines are
going to lean toward the hobbyist or
racer, and all magazines are dependent
on advertisers to survive.

Actually, the is one that is not competition centered; Adventure
Cyclist. It comes free with a subscription to Adventure Cycling
(BikeCentennial). Our own Sheldon "moonlighting in the rec.groups" Brown
is a regular writer.

This is the ONLY bicycling magazine _I_ deem worthy of subscribing to.

- -

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

Chris'Z Corner
http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

Chris Zacho 'The Wheelman said:

Are they running that AGAIN??? They caught a lot of flak back in the
80's with that.

Guess it's time to renew my subscription to the "14% club"... LOL

Are they running WHAT again? Caught flak in '80s for what?!? 14%
of...what???
--
BS (no, really)

Zoot Katz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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27 Nov 2004 19:38:11 -0800,
<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Maggie) wrote:

or is this just a special

Quoted message said:

issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists have
more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.

I wouldn't think it a special issue as it's a fact that's apparently
been well known among cyclists far longer than I've been riding.Cycling is full of surprises.

If everything that they write in this months sex issue of Bicycling
mag is true.....then cyclists have amazing sex lives and do it
everywhere. The article FIT AND FRISKY on page 53 is a little much.
Two naked old people on a tandem bike. I can't figure out if its a
bike mag or a sex mag. The article speaks more about what alot of sex
does for you than what alot of cycling does for you. I hope the next
issue actually has some biking articles. Not that sex in
uninteresting....but I did buy the mag to learn something about BIKES.

Maggie wrote:
|| Zoot Katz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:<[email hidden]>...
||| 27 Nov 2004 19:38:11 -0800,
||| <[email hidden]>,
||| [email hidden] (Maggie) wrote:
|||
||| or is this just a special
|||| issue on why cycling makes you a better lover, and why cyclists
|||| have
|||| more sex. I certainly was not expecting that.
|||
||| I wouldn't think it a special issue as it's a fact that's apparently
||| been well known among cyclists far longer than I've been
||| riding.Cycling is full of surprises.
||
|| If everything that they write in this months sex issue of Bicycling
|| mag is true.....then cyclists have amazing sex lives and do it
|| everywhere. The article FIT AND FRISKY on page 53 is a little much.
|| Two naked old people on a tandem bike. I can't figure out if its a
|| bike mag or a sex mag. The article speaks more about what alot of sex
|| does for you than what alot of cycling does for you. I hope the next
|| issue actually has some biking articles. Not that sex in
|| uninteresting....but I did buy the mag to learn something about
|| BIKES.

I suggest you quit while you're ahead as far as this mag goes.

Chris Zacho The Wheelman said:

Actually, the is one that is not competition centered; Adventure
Cyclist. It comes free with a subscription to Adventure Cycling
(BikeCentennial). Our own Sheldon "moonlighting in the rec.groups" Brown
is a regular writer.

This is the ONLY bicycling magazine _I_ deem worthy of subscribing to.

Here in the USA, it really is tough to find a good bicycling magazine.
I agree, Adventure Cyclist is good, as long as you're mostly interested
in touring. You won't find _much_ on equipment (one short column per
issue, by the very knowledgeable John Schubert and/or the even more
knowledgeable Sheldon Brown). You won't find much on any other type of
riding. There's a monthly column on nutrition. Aside from that, it's
all about touring.

There are two obscure American magazines that I find interesting:

The Rivendell Reader. A quirky, often fascinating look at cycling (and
the world) by Grant Peterson of Rivendell Bicycles. If you don't like
Buycycling's "THIS IS WHAT TO BUY _THIS_ MONTH!!!!" approach, you might
really like RR. It's more along the lines of "How to use beeswax to
protect the leather in your toe straps." Plus an occasional article on
how to make horseshoes. Seriously!

Vintage Bicycle Quarterly. It concentrates on touring bike technology
(mostly French) from the 1930s to the 1960s - and the technology was
impressive, believe it or not! Some beautiful Daniel Rebour artwork
pops up regularly.

But I think it's safe to say that the Web is now the best place to go
for cycling info. It beats the heck out of Buycycling.

You might want to try www.bicyclinglife.com

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Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com,
replace with cc.ysu dot edu]

Brian said:

Apologies, Maggie...

Most of the wanna-be crit and century riders that lurk here are 'down' on
Rodale's Bicycling Magazine. None are actual subscribers, so it would seem.

FWIW, I'm not a wanna-be crit rider. I do ride centuries, but I also
tour, commute, ride for utility, and just ride for fun. And I am a
subscriber to Buycycling - somewhat unwillingly. It came free with a
membership to the now-disappointing League of American Bicyclists.

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All of them forget that a)there's no advertising revenue in how to cycle on
a budget and b) you don't subscribe to a popular publication for the intense
level of technical knowledge contained therein. If you want details,
ffolkes, get ahold of a trade publication. Bicycling is for enthusiasts,
period...

In Great Britain, they have Cycling Plus magazine. It seems able to be
much more interesting, while being grounded in reality rather than in
telling you how to pretend to be Lance. It's too bad it costs so much
to ship it across the Atlantic - and I wonder why we can't support a
similar magazine.

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Personally, I enjoyed the December issue article by Steve Friedman on the
rise and fall of Marco Pantani...

In the past few months, Buycycling has had a few good articles. The one
on Pantani _was_ good. But most of it is still drek.

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Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com,
replace with cc.ysu dot edu]

"Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Pat' from said:

Yeah, somehow, Kevan always brings race into every discussion, doesn't

he?

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I was, for some odd reason, looking at the demographics for Kearney, NE,

and

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the surrounding area last night. Census data claims there are only about

750

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blacks living within that area. That's incredible to me. Here in my town,
blacks are a majority, and, in the South, they make up quite a large

portion

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of the population. Soemtimes I fail to understand how the rest of the

nation

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is vastly different, and, when I pick up a national magazine and don't see

in

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the pages what I see everyday in real life, I have to remind myself.

I also live in the South, in Florida. The county in which I live has a
population of 100000+, and less than 2% of the population is black. We have
an excellent Rails to Trails, and I've never seen anyone on it except white
cyclists, joggers, and bladers.

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[email hidden] (Gooserider) wrote

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Buy Cycling For Whitey as opposed to
what? The only minority-centered
bicycling magazine is Lowrider Bicycle,
and I don't think Maggie is interested in
twisted chrome frames and 128 spoke
wheels. Bicycle centered magazines are
going to lean toward the hobbyist or
racer, and all magazines are dependent
on advertisers to survive.

Actually, the is one that is not competition centered; Adventure
Cyclist. It comes free with a subscription to Adventure Cycling
(BikeCentennial). Our own Sheldon "moonlighting in the rec.groups" Brown
is a regular writer.

This is the ONLY bicycling magazine _I_ deem worthy of subscribing to.

I'm quite sure it doesn't have enough diversity to suit Kevan, though.