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  1. Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken by a
    bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had three seats
    and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being ridden by a single
    rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through the stationary trafffic.
    So, is there a name such a three-up type of bike?

    Thanks

    Paul

  2. It was a Trandem as made popular by the goodies in the 70's.

    Robin.
    "Paul Mitchelmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken by


    a

    Quoted message said:

    bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had three


    seats

    Quoted message said:

    and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being ridden by a single
    rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through the stationary trafffic.
    So, is there a name such a three-up type of bike?

    Thanks

    Paul

  3. Paul Mitchelmore popped their head over the parapet saw what was going
    on and said

    Quoted message said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was
    overtaken by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but
    actually had three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add,
    was being ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her
    way through the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a
    three-up type of bike?

    Thanks

    Paul

    Well Guy what's your's called ?

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

  4. "Paul Mitchelmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken
    by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had
    three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being
    ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through
    the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a three-up type of
    bike?

    Thanks

    Paul

    Triplet? I like this one, but I'm going to have to have another kid if I
    want to buy one ;-)

    http://www.sjscycles.com/thorn/26tandembrochure/tandembrochurewebp26.htm

    --
    Chris Bardell
    [Remove favourite mode of transport from email address]

  5. Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was
    overtaken by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but
    actually had three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add,
    was being ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her
    way through the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a
    three-up type of bike?

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man bike, and
    all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and you got the pedals
    lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced bike, in the same way as a
    straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced. I hope someone knows what I mean
    😄.

  6. In message <[email hidden]>, Chris Bardell
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    "Paul Mitchelmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken
    by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had
    three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being
    ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through
    the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a three-up type of
    bike?

    Quoted message said:

    Triplet?

    Yep.

    Quoted message said:

    I like this one,

    I don't think there is much choice unless you go custom.

    Quoted message said:

    but I'm going to have to have another kid if I
    want to buy one ;-)

    http://www.sjscycles.com/thorn/26tandembrochure/tandembrochurewebp26.htm


    One is on the list......... second kid is already in the oven, so just
    need to wait 4 years :-)

    When will you be selling yours Guy? :-)
    --
    Chris French, Leeds

  7. Doki <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was
    overtaken by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but
    actually had three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add,
    was being ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her
    way through the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a
    three-up type of bike?

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man bike,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and you got the


    pedals

    Quoted message said:

    lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced bike, in the same way as a
    straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced. I hope someone knows what I mean

    Leg analogue is a two-stoke engine, not a four-stroke. Think again...

  8. Doki [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man bike, and
    all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and you got the pedals
    lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced bike, in the same way as a
    straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced. I hope someone knows what I mean
    😄.

    Not sure about that, but if you had riders who didn't mind, you could
    set the pedals up with a 180degree difference between them and keep the
    bike under continuous force. Was this what you were thinking?

    Jon

  9. in message <[email hidden]>, Jon Senior

    jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk ('') said:

    Doki [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man
    bike, and all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and
    you got the pedals lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced
    bike, in the same way as a straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced. I
    hope someone knows what I mean
    😄.

    Not sure about that, but if you had riders who didn't mind, you could
    set the pedals up with a 180degree difference between them and keep
    the bike under continuous force. Was this what you were thinking?

    90 degree difference, Jon. And I suspect he was thinking 60 degrees. I'm
    sure both these solutions have been tried. I expect they don't work
    very well on bicycle tandems, because each rider is all the time
    putting stress on the bike in different ways which will both put
    additional stress on the frame and make it more difficult for the
    riders to get in rhythm. I'm prepared to be wrong on this, however.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; making jokes about dyslexia isn't big, it isn't clever and
    ;; it isn't furry.

  10. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    90 degree difference, Jon. And I suspect he was thinking 60 degrees. I'm
    sure both these solutions have been tried. I expect they don't work
    very well on bicycle tandems, because each rider is all the time
    putting stress on the bike in different ways which will both put
    additional stress on the frame and make it more difficult for the
    riders to get in rhythm. I'm prepared to be wrong on this, however.

    Out of phase is generally kinder to the drive train.

    On a tandem, some people do 90 deg. out of sync for this reason. Others
    can't get used to it (as you surmise, it just feels wrong.). Quite a few (us
    included) have it set up a little bit out of phase (couple of teeth or so)
    as it feels better. I can't remember who goes first.

    With adults on triplets and longer, it's recommended to be at least a bit
    out of phase, if not completely, since otherwise you're in danger of
    breaking things (eg freewheels/hubs).

    I can't remember whether older wobbly tandems are more or less amenable to
    out of phase than modern stiff ones, if at all. (relevant to your stress
    idea).

    cheers,
    clive

  11. Doki said:

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man
    bike, and all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and
    you got the pedals lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced
    bike, in the same way as a straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced. I
    hope someone knows what I mean

    They used to use triplets for pacing in races sometimes.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

  12. Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was
    overtaken by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but
    actually had three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add,
    was being ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her
    way through the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a
    three-up type of bike?

    There is indeed. It was a triplet, and probably a horn Me'n'U2 which
    apperas to be the most popular triplet about. Whereabout were you in the
    world?

    Here is a picture or two of our triplet:
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/me-n-u2

    Was that what it looked like?

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

  13. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:47:04 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
    <[email hidden]> wrote (more or less):

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was
    overtaken by a bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but
    actually had three seats and three sets of pedals, and, I should add,
    was being ridden by a single rider who quite skillfully weaved her
    way through the stationary trafffic. So, is there a name such a
    three-up type of bike?

    There is indeed. It was a triplet, and probably a horn Me'n'U2 which
    apperas to be the most popular triplet about. Whereabout were you in the
    world?

    Here is a picture or two of our triplet:
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/web/public.nsf/Documents/me-n-u2

    Was that what it looked like?

    Just read the page... what's 'chain suck'?
    --
    Cheers,
    Euan
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  14. Gawnsoft popped their head over the parapet saw what was going on and
    said

    Quoted message said:

    Just read the page... what's 'chain suck'?

    AASHTA :-

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ca-m.html#chainsuck

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    90 degree difference, Jon.

    120 degree actually. Got there in the end. (Given my work with 3 phase
    electricity, it really shouldn't have taken that long!) :-)

    Quoted message said:

    And I suspect he was thinking 60 degrees. I'm
    sure both these solutions have been tried. I expect they don't work
    very well on bicycle tandems, because each rider is all the time
    putting stress on the bike in different ways which will both put
    additional stress on the frame and make it more difficult for the
    riders to get in rhythm. I'm prepared to be wrong on this, however.

    I would expect it to smooth out the stress on the frame and components
    as rather than two high peaks of energy per revolution, there would be
    six evenly spaced, lesser ones.

    I suspect that the riders might be the problem, but it shouldn't be
    outside the realm of practice.

    Jon

  16. Jon Senior said:

    Doki [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    I dunno, but the other day I was thinking that if you made a 3 man
    bike, and all three riders were of similar weight and strength, and
    you got the pedals lined up right, you'd have a perfectly balanced
    bike, in the same way as a straight 6 engine is perfectly balanced.
    I hope someone knows what I mean

    Quoted message said:

    D.

    Not sure about that, but if you had riders who didn't mind, you could
    set the pedals up with a 180degree difference between them and keep
    the bike under continuous force. Was this what you were thinking?

    Was thinking balanced as in vibration / oscillation free. With a straight 6,
    as one of your moving parts is travelling down, there's another moving up.
    The end result is spot on end to end balance. On a bike, it'd be side to
    side balance I suppose.

  17. Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken by a
    bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had three seats
    and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being ridden by a single
    rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through the stationary trafffic.
    So, is there a name such a three-up type of bike?

    It's a triplet. Not a "tridem", puh-lease.

  18. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Paul Mitchelmore said:

    Whilst sitting in my car in a traffic jam this morning I was overtaken by a
    bike with looked at first glance like a tandem but actually had three seats
    and three sets of pedals, and, I should add, was being ridden by a single
    rider who quite skillfully weaved her way through the stationary trafffic.
    So, is there a name such a three-up type of bike?

    It's a triplet. Not a "tridem", puh-lease.

    Trandem. Unless you're trying to imply that the Goodies weren't
    infallible, you cur.

    --
    Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
    "Adventure came not from the half-starved, but from those who were
    well fed enough to feel ambition"
    -- William Beveridge

  19. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    They used to use triplets for pacing in races sometimes.

    They certainly did, in the days before Derny pacing took off; tracks
    had teams of pacers on triplets (and even quads sometimes), which were
    considered worthy of publicity in their own right - at one time Dunlop
    Tyres provided comprehensive sponsorship to such teams.

    David E. Belcher

  20. Keith Willoughby said:

    Trandem. Unless you're trying to imply that the Goodies weren't
    infallible, you cur.

    <obligatory_plug> And isn't it about time the BBC repeated The Goodies?
    </obligatory_plug>

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
    University

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