bicycle camping

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C.J.Patten said:

"Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nah, it just that a lot of critters appreciate some
acknowledgment, and two-way communication. Of course,
sometimes they just wanna hump your leg.

Oh, doesn't that describe all of us?

My maternal grandmother once told me: "Most of the best
people I've known are animals."

She also made the best rhubarb chutney in the world.
(I think so, anyways.)

cheers,
Tom

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[email hidden] (Tom Keats) wrote in
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Bears
aren't very familiar with the social graces, and will quickly
become insufferable, aggressive mooches who won't go away if
you feed them.

Are you sure you're thinking of bears? I've got in-laws that fit that
description.

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And then they end up having to be shot for
being nuisances.

Don't tempt me...

😉

Graeme

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Graeme said:

[email hidden] (Tom Keats) wrote in
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Bears
aren't very familiar with the social graces, and will quickly
become insufferable, aggressive mooches who won't go away if
you feed them.

Are you sure you're thinking of bears? I've got in-laws that fit that
description.

That's all right, when I subsequently talked about doggies needing
to communicate, I was also thinking of an ex girlfriend.

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And then they end up having to be shot for
being nuisances.

Don't tempt me...

😉

Ever read Pearl Buck's "The Good Earth"?

cheers,
Tom

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C.J.Patten said:

Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

Forget the rifle, take a friend with you and wear running shoes. You
only have to run faster than your friend then ;-)

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

On 06/16/2005 04:57:19 Bill Baka said:

I think I have you all beat and this is a no bull, real story. I went to
Yosemite about 1973 with about 20 friends to camp out and visit a friend
who was a ranger there. We all partied at the farthest part of the
camping area we could find so we wouldn't bother anyone else. The beer,
and us, ran out at about 1:30 but some people stayed up (tilted, but up)
talking and I took my sleeping bag up the hill and crashed. I woke up at
daybreak thinking a big dog was licking my face and saw a baby bear.
Thought number one was "How cute.". Then I looked about 20 feet up the
hill and saw mama bear and my second thought was "Oh, [censored]." Looking down
at the campsite, my room mate was making the morning coffee fire and
laughing his ass off at me, waking everyone else to the sight. The baby
was about 60? pounds and the mama was just plain big, but black. I think
the little guy would have liked to play wrestle but I have also been told
that a mother bear will jump in and ruin your whole day if you do. Kind
of like my pet bull, fun when little but dangerous when big, no bull. Bill
Baka

A few years ago I was cycle touring with friends and we camped at the
edge of Sherwood forest, it was nice weather so I slept just with a fly
sheet, in the morning I thought I was at home with the dog licking my
face to wake me up, but boy was his breath bad! I pushed him away about
2 or 3 times, before I remembered I was camping, I opened my eyes to
see the biggest, sharpest teeth I have ever seen (at least it looked
that way from 2 inches away), I screamed in fright and jumped up,
everyone else did the same, at which point the Badger just looked at me
as if to say "please yourself then" and ambled off into the forrest.

Took me a long time to live that one down.
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Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:40:58 +0100, Buck

ian@*remove*trikesandstuff.co.uk said:

A few years ago I was cycle touring with friends and we camped at the
edge of Sherwood forest, it was nice weather so I slept just with a fly
sheet, in the morning I thought I was at home with the dog licking my
face to wake me up, but boy was his breath bad! I pushed him away about
2 or 3 times, before I remembered I was camping, I opened my eyes to
see the biggest, sharpest teeth I have ever seen (at least it looked
that way from 2 inches away), I screamed in fright and jumped up,
everyone else did the same, at which point the Badger just looked at me
as if to say "please yourself then" and ambled off into the forrest.

He was probably licking off all the slugs and snails that had crawled
onto you in the night. You're lucky the little b*&^ard didn't bite you
or you would have spent a day of your holiday in casualty getting jabs.

I think Badgers are 'orrible, nasty beasts - even as a child I never
understood why they are commonly depicted as cute, wise, peaceful
countryside dwellers. But then there are townies who glamourise foxes,
too...

/rant, sorry.

--
jc

On 06/16/2005 10:58:12 'Jeremy Collins said:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:40:58 +0100, Buck
<ian@*remove*trikesandstuff.co.uk> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A few years ago I was cycle touring with friends and we camped at the
edge of Sherwood forest, it was nice weather so I slept just with a fly
sheet, in the morning I thought I was at home with the dog licking my
face to wake me up, but boy was his breath bad! I pushed him away about
2 or 3 times, before I remembered I was camping, I opened my eyes to see
the biggest, sharpest teeth I have ever seen (at least it looked that way
from 2 inches away), I screamed in fright and jumped up, everyone else
did the same, at which point the Badger just looked at me as if to say
"please yourself then" and ambled off into the forrest.

Quoted message said:

He was probably licking off all the slugs and snails that had crawled onto
you in the night. You're lucky the little b*&^ard didn't bite you or you
would have spent a day of your holiday in casualty getting jabs.

Judging by the teeth it could inflict serious damage, even to my ugly mug.

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Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

C.J.Patten said:

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Nah! Just have Bill Baka around. I'm sure he has a story about how he
dealt with the bears.

You mean sicing his Amazon daughter on them?

(sorry Bill - couldn't help that... highest respect... 😉

If I posted her picture you would see what a girl should look like but
she won't let me. Too many guys already making fools of themselves when
she is around. Think Sandra Bullock with a little more muscle and you
have it.
Bill (did something right) Baka

C.J.Patten said:

Quoted message said:

I think I have you all beat and this is a no bull, real story. I went to
Yosemite about 1973 with about 20 friends to camp out and visit a friend
who was a ranger there. We all partied at the farthest part of the camping
area we could find so we wouldn't bother anyone else. The beer, and us,
ran out at about 1:30 but some people stayed up (tilted, but up) talking
and I took my sleeping bag up the hill and crashed. I woke up at daybreak
thinking a big dog was licking my face and saw a baby bear. Thought number
one was "How cute.". Then I looked about 20 feet up the hill and saw mama
bear and my second thought was "Oh, [censored]." Looking down at the campsite,
my room mate was making the morning coffee fire and laughing his ass off
at me, waking everyone else to the sight. The baby was about 60? pounds
and the mama was just plain big, but black.
I think the little guy would have liked to play wrestle but I have also
been told that a mother bear will jump in and ruin your whole day if you
do. Kind of like my pet bull, fun when little but dangerous when big, no
bull.
Bill Baka

LMAO! 😄

Well, I did feel the urge to pet it but my friends made so much noise
laughing at the situation that baby and mama bear took off.
Little animals are cute, big ones I avoid.
Bill Baka

Jeremy Collins said:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:40:58 +0100, Buck

ian@*remove*trikesandstuff.co.uk said:

A few years ago I was cycle touring with friends and we camped at the
edge of Sherwood forest, it was nice weather so I slept just with a fly
sheet, in the morning I thought I was at home with the dog licking my
face to wake me up, but boy was his breath bad! I pushed him away about
2 or 3 times, before I remembered I was camping, I opened my eyes to
see the biggest, sharpest teeth I have ever seen (at least it looked
that way from 2 inches away), I screamed in fright and jumped up,
everyone else did the same, at which point the Badger just looked at me
as if to say "please yourself then" and ambled off into the forrest.

He was probably licking off all the slugs and snails that had crawled
onto you in the night. You're lucky the little b*&^ard didn't bite you
or you would have spent a day of your holiday in casualty getting jabs.

I think Badgers are 'orrible, nasty beasts - even as a child I never
understood why they are commonly depicted as cute, wise, peaceful
countryside dwellers. But then there are townies who glamourise foxes,
too...

/rant, sorry.

I had a pet fox and it wasn't that bad. Skunks that have been de-stunk
are like cats. Bears are just like giant dogs with pit bull attitudes.
Most animals will be your friend if they are familiar with you. I have
raised baby birds that have bonded with me and when I let them go free
they always would come back and land on my shoulder or the top of my
head. Sometimes I gave them a treat and other times they just wanted to
be with someone familiar. It was kind of weird having a just grown
sparrow following me and landing on me when I was trying to do yard work.
Bill Baka

On 06/16/2005 12:15:13 Bill Baka said:

Jeremy Collins wrote:

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:40:58 +0100, Buck
<ian@*remove*trikesandstuff.co.uk> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A few years ago I was cycle touring with friends and we camped at the
edge of Sherwood forest, it was nice weather so I slept just with a fly
sheet, in the morning I thought I was at home with the dog licking my
face to wake me up, but boy was his breath bad! I pushed him away about
2 or 3 times, before I remembered I was camping, I opened my eyes to see
the biggest, sharpest teeth I have ever seen (at least it looked that
way from 2 inches away), I screamed in fright and jumped up, everyone
else did the same, at which point the Badger just looked at me as if to
say "please yourself then" and ambled off into the forrest.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He was probably licking off all the slugs and snails that had crawled

Quoted message said:

Sometimes I gave them a treat and other times they just wanted to be with
someone familiar. It was kind of weird having a just grown sparrow
following me and landing on me when I was trying to do yard work. Bill
Baka

It was the attitude of the Badger that got me, it just looked disgusted
because I did not appreciate it licking my face.

--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Tony Raven said:

C.J.Patten said:

Most black bears will choose to run away from you but if they don't,
I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon than attempt to run away
from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

Forget the rifle, take a friend with you and wear running shoes. You
only have to run faster than your friend then ;-)

getting back (somewhat) on topic, captaining a tandem works well for me,
although we've only had dogs chase us so far.

James
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Tony Raven wrote:

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getting back (somewhat) on topic, captaining a tandem works well for me,
although we've only had dogs chase us so far.

Here's one for the group: I see people carrying pepper spray for dog
encounters... what about a pack of hotdog wieners?

C.J.Patten said:

"James Annan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tony Raven wrote:

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getting back (somewhat) on topic, captaining a tandem works well for me,
although we've only had dogs chase us so far.

Here's one for the group: I see people carrying pepper spray for dog
encounters... what about a pack of hotdog wieners?

I've never found myself in the position of being harassed by sausages,
but in that situation I guess a squirt of mustard might work.

James
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http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

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Here's one for the group: I see people carrying pepper spray for dog
encounters... what about a pack of hotdog wieners?

I've never found myself in the position of being harassed by sausages, but
in that situation I guess a squirt of mustard might work.

DOH! I walked right in to that one...

in message <op.ssgjexrs4al0tm@office>, Jeremy Collins

(') said:

I think Badgers are 'orrible, nasty beasts - even as a child I never
understood why they are commonly depicted as cute, wise, peaceful
countryside dwellers.

What's the basis for this opinion? (interested, not arguing)

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C.J.Patten said:

"James Annan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tony Raven wrote:

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getting back (somewhat) on topic, captaining a tandem works well for
me, although we've only had dogs chase us so far.

Here's one for the group: I see people carrying pepper spray for dog
encounters... what about a pack of hotdog wieners?

Condiments?

Now getting his buns outta here, BS

C.J.Patten said:

Here's one for the group: I see people carrying pepper spray for dog
encounters... what about a pack of hotdog wieners?

The wieners would likly get them to stop chasing you that one time, but
it seems to me they might encourage them to chase you the next time
around.

Pepper spray, on the other hand, might make them less likely to chase
you the 2nd time. Especially if every bike they chased pepper-sprayed
them.

This is all complete conjecture, of course, as I haven't had a dog
encounter in decades.

Rich

Zoot Katz said:

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:54:18 -0400, <[email hidden]>,

C.J.Patten said:

Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

The black bears on Haida Gwaii don't run from food. They've been at
the top of the food chain since the last ice age left them stranded.
They're accustomed to their position. The ones away from population
areas seldom, if ever, encounter humans. To the best of their
knowledge, you're there to be eaten.

They're also typically huge compared to black bears from the interior
regions of BC which I have encountered numerous times.

Word for Zoot.
Arrogance will get you killed. A gun or bow will do you no good if the
predator is sneakier/faster/more numerous than you. I used to catch
rattlesnakes by their tails, but only one at a time and I have never
tried to play with a bear of any sort.
When in the wild, you are just another food source, even to the
mosquitoes, which if the swarm was large enough, could in theory, suck
you dry and dead.
Be arrogant about bikes, not bears and such.
Bill Baka

C.J.Patten said:

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Everybody who's dealt with bears before assumes too much when
dealing with the next bear.

Touche. Let me clarify: given the choice between running away
or quietly putting an arrow between a bear's ribs, I will
always choose the latter. Around here we only have blackies -
I won't go in the bush without a rifle if there are brownies
or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run away from
you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead
soon than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as
they are.

You just need to be faster than the person beside you ;-)
--
Mark

1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.