bicycle camping

"Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies will be
my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

I'll take down a bear. No problem.

"Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

Or unless you have a very catholic palate, slugs... ;-)

<shudder>

Chris' two rules for food:
1) no fungus
2) no invertebrates

Both do bad things to me...

<yuck>

"C.J.Patten" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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"Alan Braggins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies
will be my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

I'll take down a bear. No problem.

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

Mike Latondresse said:

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

I encountered a bear in my brothers backyard in Pennsylvania. I
thought the bear was cute. But I was behind a glass patio door. ;-) He
was watching me like I was in the zoo.

No comments from the peanut gallery.

Maggie

"Mike Latondresse" <mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
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You have never encountered a bear obviously.

You assume too much.

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:46 GMT,
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Mike Latondresse mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca said:

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

I hope another grizzly never has to see the _inside_ of a zoo.

There was one killed near a switch on the CPR Mountain Subdivision and
for about two weeks the other one would be around there guarding the
carcass or something. Sitting in the siding meeting other trains gave
me a few opportunities to view one up close from the safety of a
locomotive cab. There were occasionally train orders warning of
grizzlies at other stations so I've seen a few where they belong.
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zk

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:54:29 -0400, <[email hidden]>,

C.J.Patten said:

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You have never encountered a bear obviously.

You assume too much.

Everybody who's dealt with bears before assumes too much when dealing
with the next bear.
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"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Everybody who's dealt with bears before assumes too much when dealing
with the next bear.

Touche. Let me clarify: given the choice between running away or quietly
putting an arrow between a bear's ribs, I will always choose the latter.
Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

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"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Everybody who's dealt with bears before assumes too much when dealing
with the next bear.

Touche. Let me clarify: given the choice between running away or quietly
putting an arrow between a bear's ribs, I will always choose the latter.
Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

Nah! Just have Bill Baka around. I'm sure he has a story about how he
dealt with the bears.

"gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nah! Just have Bill Baka around. I'm sure he has a story about how he
dealt with the bears.

You mean sicing his Amazon daughter on them?

(sorry Bill - couldn't help that... highest respect... 😉

Maggie said:

Mike Latondresse said:

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

I encountered a bear in my brothers backyard in Pennsylvania. I
thought the bear was cute. But I was behind a glass patio door. ;-) He
was watching me like I was in the zoo.

No comments from the peanut gallery.

Maggie

I think I have you all beat and this is a no bull, real story. I went to
Yosemite about 1973 with about 20 friends to camp out and visit a friend
who was a ranger there. We all partied at the farthest part of the
camping area we could find so we wouldn't bother anyone else. The beer,
and us, ran out at about 1:30 but some people stayed up (tilted, but up)
talking and I took my sleeping bag up the hill and crashed. I woke up at
daybreak thinking a big dog was licking my face and saw a baby bear.
Thought number one was "How cute.". Then I looked about 20 feet up the
hill and saw mama bear and my second thought was "Oh, [censored]." Looking
down at the campsite, my room mate was making the morning coffee fire
and laughing his ass off at me, waking everyone else to the sight. The
baby was about 60? pounds and the mama was just plain big, but black.
I think the little guy would have liked to play wrestle but I have also
been told that a mother bear will jump in and ruin your whole day if you
do. Kind of like my pet bull, fun when little but dangerous when big, no
bull.
Bill Baka

gds said:

C.J.Patten said:

"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Everybody who's dealt with bears before assumes too much when dealing
with the next bear.

Touche. Let me clarify: given the choice between running away or quietly
putting an arrow between a bear's ribs, I will always choose the latter.
Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

Nah! Just have Bill Baka around. I'm sure he has a story about how he
dealt with the bears.

I just told it a few posts back. I have been setting up a computer for
most of the afternoon so I am behind the flow.
Bill Baka
(I'd rather make friends with it than shoot it). I have tamed many a dog
on my rides and now have to stop and pet rather than pedal like crazy.

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:54:18 -0400, <[email hidden]>,

C.J.Patten said:

Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

The black bears on Haida Gwaii don't run from food. They've been at
the top of the food chain since the last ice age left them stranded.
They're accustomed to their position. The ones away from population
areas seldom, if ever, encounter humans. To the best of their
knowledge, you're there to be eaten.

They're also typically huge compared to black bears from the interior
regions of BC which I have encountered numerous times.
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zk

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I think I have you all beat and this is a no bull, real story. I went to
Yosemite about 1973 with about 20 friends to camp out and visit a friend
who was a ranger there. We all partied at the farthest part of the camping
area we could find so we wouldn't bother anyone else. The beer, and us,
ran out at about 1:30 but some people stayed up (tilted, but up) talking
and I took my sleeping bag up the hill and crashed. I woke up at daybreak
thinking a big dog was licking my face and saw a baby bear. Thought number
one was "How cute.". Then I looked about 20 feet up the hill and saw mama
bear and my second thought was "Oh, [censored]." Looking down at the campsite,
my room mate was making the morning coffee fire and laughing his ass off
at me, waking everyone else to the sight. The baby was about 60? pounds
and the mama was just plain big, but black.
I think the little guy would have liked to play wrestle but I have also
been told that a mother bear will jump in and ruin your whole day if you
do. Kind of like my pet bull, fun when little but dangerous when big, no
bull.
Bill Baka

LMAO! 😄

"Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:54:18 -0400, <[email hidden]>,

C.J.Patten said:

Around here we only have blackies - I won't go in the bush without a rifle
if there are brownies or griz around. Most black bears will choose to run
away from you but if they don't, I'd rather know it's going to be dead
soon
than attempt to run away from it - I'm not as fast as they are.

The black bears on Haida Gwaii don't run from food. They've been at
the top of the food chain since the last ice age left them stranded.
They're accustomed to their position. The ones away from population
areas seldom, if ever, encounter humans. To the best of their
knowledge, you're there to be eaten.

They're also typically huge compared to black bears from the interior
regions of BC which I have encountered numerous times.

AH! Yes... Western Coastal bears should be treated like Great White Sharks -
beautiful but deadly. In Ontario and New Jersey (my two hunting states...)
and I'd imagine the rest of the East, black bears are more like big ol'
coyotes - scavengers, generally avoiding people. If you do see one before it
sees you, shoot it. (camera, bow - whatever 😉

If it sees you, it's gonna head for the hills.

"Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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As for dogs, I think a lot of 'em just wanna be listened to.
I think they sometimes get fed up with pettin' and coochy-coo
baby talk as if they were unresponsive idiots. A lot of times
in the public city parks I've had happy-flappy dogs come
bounding up to recount some story to me, or just to tell me
what a great day they're having. Then their masters apologize
to me and yank their doggies away before the poor puppies can
get a word in edgewise.

You're... the... dog....whisperer. :o

😉

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Bill Baka said:

(I'd rather make friends with it than shoot it). I have tamed many a dog
on my rides and now have to stop and pet rather than pedal like crazy.

Better to leave wild animals to their own devices; best is
to leave them wary of humans. Once they lose their fear of
people, that's the beginning of ruination for them. Bears
aren't very familiar with the social graces, and will quickly
become insufferable, aggressive mooches who won't go away if
you feed them. And then they end up having to be shot for
being nuisances. They want easy pickin's more than they
want "friends".

As for dogs, I think a lot of 'em just wanna be listened to.
I think they sometimes get fed up with pettin' and coochy-coo
baby talk as if they were unresponsive idiots. A lot of times
in the public city parks I've had happy-flappy dogs come
bounding up to recount some story to me, or just to tell me
what a great day they're having. Then their masters apologize
to me and yank their doggies away before the poor puppies can
get a word in edgewise.

cheers,
Tom

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C.J.Patten said:

"gds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nah! Just have Bill Baka around. I'm sure he has a story about how he
dealt with the bears.

You mean sicing his Amazon daughter on them?

(sorry Bill - couldn't help that... highest respect... 😉

You know who Disney based "Pecos Bill" on, don't you?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0168118/

"Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nah, it just that a lot of critters appreciate some
acknowledgment, and two-way communication. Of course,
sometimes they just wanna hump your leg.

Oh, doesn't that describe all of us?

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C.J.Patten said:

"Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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As for dogs, I think a lot of 'em just wanna be listened to.
I think they sometimes get fed up with pettin' and coochy-coo
baby talk as if they were unresponsive idiots. A lot of times
in the public city parks I've had happy-flappy dogs come
bounding up to recount some story to me, or just to tell me
what a great day they're having. Then their masters apologize
to me and yank their doggies away before the poor puppies can
get a word in edgewise.

You're... the... dog....whisperer. :o

😉

Nah, it just that a lot of critters appreciate some
acknowledgment, and two-way communication. Of course,
sometimes they just wanna hump your leg.

cheers,
Tom

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