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  1. What blood glucose number is considered hypoglycemia?

    I am a type 2 using diet and exercise, no meds. My blood sugar went to 54 on one occasion about 4 or
    5 hours after lunch and just before dinner. I felt no effects from this low blood sugar.

    This morning my bg was 66.

    I am trying to lose weight and eat four meals a day of 300 calories each. I eat yogurt, beans,
    vegetables, fruit,fish, bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, olive oil. I weigh and measure
    everything.

    Should I be concerned?

    Dolores

  2. dolores wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    What blood glucose number is considered hypoglycemia?

    I am a type 2 using diet and exercise, no meds. My blood sugar went to 54 on one occasion about 4
    or 5 hours after lunch and just before dinner. I felt no effects from this low blood sugar.

    This morning my bg was 66.

    I am trying to lose weight and eat four meals a day of 300 calories each. I eat yogurt, beans,
    vegetables, fruit,fish, bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, olive oil. I weigh and measure
    everything.

    Should I be concerned?

    Dolores

    This morning my bG was 57.

    I have to be concerned with a bG that low because I augment my natural insulin supply. I
    inject insulin.

    In contrast, folks who do not augment their natural insulin supply don't have to be concerned about
    such blood sugars. Sounds like you.

    The insulin augmentation meds are:

    1. Insulin injections
    2. Sulfonylureas (Glyburide, Glucotrol, etc)
    3. Prandin and Starlix

    The best diabetologists recommend giving Type 2 diabetics the non-insulin augmentation meds
    metformin and Actos before trying insulin augmentation. Metformin and Actos are anti-heart attack,
    anti-beta cell destruction, and, btw, anti-high bG meds.

    You might have a bit of Reactive Hypoglycemia showing. The weapon against that is splitting larger
    meals into several smaller meals and avoiding rapidly digesting carbs.

    You might try and keep records to see what potatoes, bread and rice do in this area. The Reactive
    Hypoglycemia folks have to really ration and control fast carbs like those three.

    Regards
    Old Al

  3. Make sure you are getting a good meter reading, some give low numbers if there is not enough blood.
    If this is happening within the recent past, check to see that you are using the right number or key
    for the specific calibration for the batch of strips and likewise that a test with the control
    solution gives a good result.

    Quoted message said:

    What blood glucose number is considered hypoglycemia?

    I am a type 2 using diet and exercise, no meds. My blood sugar went to 54 on one occasion about 4
    or 5 hours after lunch and just before dinner. I felt no effects from this low blood sugar.

    This morning my bg was 66.

    I am trying to lose weight and eat four meals a day of 300 calories each. I eat yogurt, beans,
    vegetables, fruit,fish, bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, olive oil. I weigh and measure
    everything.

    Should I be concerned?

    Dolores

  4. Quoted message said:

    I am trying to lose weight and eat four meals a day of 300 calories each. I eat yogurt, beans,
    vegetables, fruit,fish, bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, olive oil. I weigh and measure
    everything.

    Should I be concerned?

    Dolores

    I have to second and third what Al said. It is possible for diabetes and reactive hypoglycemia to go
    hand in hand. My daughter had the latter only. She had been eating a diet much like yours but now
    realizes she needs much more protein in the form of chicken, and especially fish.

    In particular she feels a ton better on the Perricone diet--very anti-inflammatory. You can do a
    search. I don't think she ever even bought the book but after she carbs out too much and gets
    bloated and reactive hypoglycemia, she goes on the three day Perricone diet and feels fabulous.

    I know that vegetarians get really sensitive about all this, but all I can tell you is her
    experience. She still refuses to eat red meat (yes mom thinks she needs it).

    BL

    "As the waves pass the rock, their shape is changed. There is a hologram of the rock within the wave
    that comes forward and crashes on the beach, then there's a reflected wave back." Ralph Abraham

    "I'd like to learn to windsurf." BL

  5. "dolores" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What blood glucose number is considered hypoglycemia?

    That depends on the source of information you use. I've seen a hypo listed as <70. I've also seen it
    listed as <65.

    Quoted message said:


    I am a type 2 using diet and exercise, no meds. My blood sugar went to 54 on one occasion about 4
    or 5 hours after lunch and just before dinner. I felt no effects from this low blood sugar.

    54 is most certainly a hypo. While you might have been feeling no ill effects, you certainly
    shouldn't allow yourself to stay that low. Why? Because when you have a hypo, you don't necessarily
    think straight. You could do something stupid or dangerous and not even know it. There have been
    times when I've had hypos and didn't know. Yet my behavior was odd to those around me.

    Quoted message said:


    This morning my bg was 66.

    Again, not good.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to lose weight and eat four meals a day of 300 calories each. I eat yogurt, beans,
    vegetables, fruit,fish, bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, olive oil. I weigh and measure
    everything.

    Should I be concerned?

    Mention the hypos to your Dr. You might have a thyroid problem. My worst hypos came about during a
    period of time when I was overmedicated on thyroid meds. Or there could be some other medical
    problem. Or you might not be eating enough.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Make sure you are getting a good meter reading, some give low numbers if there is not enough
    blood. If this is happening within the recent past, check to see that you are using the right
    number or key for the specific calibration for the batch of strips and likewise that a test with
    the control solution gives a good result.

    Ah yes! I had forgotten about that. There was a period of time where my meter kept showing hypos,
    yet I was sure I wasn't having one. I had faulty strips. They were sucking up not quite enough blood
    and then the meter was beeping. For some reason, to get these strips to work, I had to use an
    abnormally large drop of blood. And still, about every third strip would show a hypo. I threw them
    out and got some new ones. No problem with those.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    oldal4865 said:

    This morning my bG was 57.

    I have to be concerned with a bG that low because I augment my natural insulin supply. I inject
    insulin.

    In contrast, folks who do not augment their natural insulin supply don't have to be concerned
    about such blood sugars. Sounds like you.

    I do not "augment [my] natural insulin" -- I do not take insulin, or any insulin-stimulating
    medicine. I have been relying strictly on diet and exercise to control my blood sugar levels. Yet
    it seems to be becoming alarmingly common for my blood sugar to go into hypoglycemic ranges.

    Here's a link to a graph of my blood sugar, from the time I began measuring it:

    members.impulse.netBloodSugar.gif

    The orange circles are my first-thing-in-the-morning fasting checks. The green triangles are all
    of my checks.

    From what I think I know, I should not be subject to hypoglycemic episodes, yet it appears that I
    sometimes am.

    Any ideas?

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    email address before you use it: [email hidden]

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  8. Bob Blaylock said:

    I do not "augment [my] natural insulin" -- I do not take insulin, or any insulin-stimulating
    medicine. I have been relying strictly on diet and exercise to control my blood sugar levels.
    Yet it seems to be becoming alarmingly common for my blood sugar to go into hypoglycemic ranges.

    *Hmm*. Were you diagnosed as diabetic, pre-diabetic, hypoglycemic, or what? What were the results of
    your glucose tolerance test, if you had one?

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a link to a graph of my blood sugar, from the time I began measuring it:

    members.impulse.netBloodSugar.gif

    The orange circles are my first-thing-in-the-morning fasting checks. The green triangles are all
    of my checks.

    From what I think I know, I should not be subject to hypoglycemic episodes, yet it appears that
    I sometimes am.

    Any ideas?

    What's your diet like? And can you correlate it with other factors like booze, work habits, amount
    of sleep, or combinations of the above (such as getting liquored up with your sweetie and spending
    an energetic night of working up a sweat massaging her entire body with smooth, circular motions
    and turning her into a molten puddle of hot lava for your touch) that might have lowered your
    blood sugar?

  9. "Bob Blaylock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    This morning my bG was 57.

    I have to be concerned with a bG that low because I augment my


    natural

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    insulin supply. I inject insulin.

    In contrast, folks who do not augment their natural insulin supply don't have to be concerned
    about such blood sugars. Sounds like you.

    I do not "augment [my] natural insulin" -- I do not take insulin, or any insulin-stimulating
    medicine. I have been relying strictly on diet and exercise to control my blood sugar levels.
    Yet it seems to be becoming alarmingly common for my blood sugar to go into hypoglycemic ranges.

    Here's a link to a graph of my blood sugar, from the time I began measuring it:

    members.impulse.netBloodSugar.gif

    The orange circles are my first-thing-in-the-morning fasting checks. The green triangles are all
    of my checks.

    From what I think I know, I should not be subject to hypoglycemic episodes, yet it appears that
    I sometimes am.

    Any ideas?

    How's your thyroid? When my thyroid was hyper due to too much thyroid medication, I was in hypo
    city! The food I was eating was rushing right through me because everything in my body was speeded
    up. Prior to diabetes, I had reactive hypoglycemia. If you did too, that could be a factor. It is
    not true that people who do not use meds or insulin do not get hypos. Statistically less likely, but
    it still happens.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  10. Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Blaylock said:

    I do not "augment [my] natural insulin" -- I do not take insulin, or any insulin-stimulating
    medicine. I have been relying strictly on diet and exercise to control my blood sugar levels.
    Yet it seems to be becoming alarmingly common for my blood sugar to go into hypoglycemic
    ranges.

    *Hmm*. Were you diagnosed as diabetic, pre-diabetic, hypoglycemic, or what? What were the results
    of your glucose tolerance test, if you had one?

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a link to a graph of my blood sugar, from the time I began measuring it:

    members.impulse.netBloodSugar.gif

    The orange circles are my first-thing-in-the-morning fasting checks. The green triangles are
    all of my checks.

    From what I think I know, I should not be subject to hypoglycemic episodes, yet it appears that
    I sometimes am.

    Any ideas?

    What's your diet like? And can you correlate it with other factors like booze, work habits, amount
    of sleep, or combinations of the above (such as getting liquored up with your sweetie and spending
    an energetic night of working up a sweat massaging her entire body with smooth, circular motions
    and turning her into a molten puddle of hot lava for your touch) that might have lowered your
    blood sugar?

    Hey Nico, us Old F*rts don't get to do that kind of stuff, stop rubbing it in.

    Bob:

    Reactive hypoglycemia is a symptom of early Type 2 diabetes. As I understand the process:

    a. You have lost much of your "early response" insulin capacity because of the steady progression
    of Type 2 damage.

    b. You eat some carbs, your bG spikes since the non-diabetic "early response" system is not
    available to you (as it isn't to just about every member of this group)

    c. Your beta cells, though damaged, are still in somewhat decent shape (must be, you don't need
    meds). Therefore, they start pumping out the insulin to knock down those high bG's

    d. They don't stop quick enough! Your bG goes up, then plummets because of all that self-
    generated insulin in your blood.

    We insulin augmenters can suffer hypoglycemia severe enough to put us in the emergency room. You
    Reactive Hypoglycemics **usually** don't get that bad. Your self-regulating system is still "sorta"
    working so your insulin supply will "sorta" automatically turn off when you go low. We insulin
    augmenters use an artificial technique which does not "automatically" shut off when we go low.

    I don't understand Reactive Hypoglycemia other than it really feels lousy. I don't know if the
    victims routinely end up in emergency rooms or cared for by EMS though I imagine you can get into
    real trouble if you are driving when one hits..

    More than you want to know.

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    fred.nethypotret.html

    Regards
    Old Al

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