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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Vinokourov is part of T-Mobile and was supported by them.

Quoted message said:

Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

Dude,
At least two people have won the Tour without support from their team,

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

= Riis's 5th. In 93 he had NO support from Areostea, in fact his
teammate Conti rode against him in a mountain stage or two.

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Vinokourov is part of T-Mobile and was supported by them.

What, they gave him a wheel?

I'm going with Charly Gaul in the national-team years, though.

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Vinokourov is part of T-Mobile and was supported by them.

Nope. T-Mobile is a German team and they only support their German riders.
That is why Vino wore a turquoise jersey instead of pink -- to show he
wasn't part of the team.

NS

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Vinokourov is part of T-Mobile and was supported by them.

Getting chased down and then dropped by two of your teammates is being
"supported"?

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis said:

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Vinokourov is part of T-Mobile and was supported by them.

What, they gave him a wheel?

Yeah, that should make up for Ullrich and Kloden chasing him down in
stage 14.

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for
someone without any team support.

-ilan

Gotta love the guy. He found himself in a delicious (to me) tactical
situation for the last day of the race. One against 4, and he beats 'em.

What was the deal with that sprint, anyway? Was it as agonizingly slow
as it looked? I kept waiting for someone to sprint, but they never did.
Was it uphill?

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Vinokourov is 6th in the Tour and wins two stages, which is pretty good
for someone without any team support.

Dude,
At least two people have won the Tour without support from their team,

Which made them both better riders than Armstrong.