Best Boots

Why must they be goretex?

Get a stone in your boot and the lining is punctured.

Never owned a pair of Gortex boots in all the years I have been
walking.

I have tried one or two different makes but always come back to Scarpa.
I just wish they wouldn't make slight changes to the boot each year
so that they can announce the 2006 or 2007 Scarpa.

On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:44:00 GMT, "Gary"

garyholt'remove'@blueyonder.co.uk said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

See the boot faq, but Brashers are often said to wear out very fast. I
have a pair of Meindl Burmas that are great for the likes of Kinder
Scout in the wet.
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Quoted message said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

Ah yes... well it depends on a variety of factors.... such as....
- The shape of your feet (shape of the width, shape of the arch - top n
bottom...etc etc): Most people & boot shops ignore this one...
- Do we care about hillwalking fashion ??
- how the shape & size of your feet change under load (yes, they do... )
- size of your wallet (e.g. Afghan Mountain peoples buy very cheap
boots, if any, and go amazing places...)
- how much you believe the salesman....
- If you are a devotee of insoles (I favour ...superfeet @
http://www.superfeet.com/content/index.html - they give me another hour a
day but take 2 weeks to get used to...)
- Size, thickness & number of socks you favour (me - one very thin
inside, one conventional walking sock between it & the boot)
- Are you look for winter & crampon usage ???

But, having said that IMHO Brasher are fairly good for wide British feet and
have taken me up over a hundred Munros without the dreaded falling-off
illness hitting me yet.... (shouldn't tempt fate...) .

Have a look at BMC article...
http://www.thebmc.co.uk/safety/advice/articles/issue21_boots.pdf

& http://www.cheaptents.com/Ad-walkboots.htm

& http://www.ryedale-rambler.co.uk/choosingboots.htm

Whatever you do I STRONGLY suggest when you buy a pair, wear them round the
house for several hours for a couple of days and then decide.. If the shop
won't play, go elsewhere..

Yours aye

Rab

"Gary" <garyholt"remove"@blueyonder.co.uk> said...

Quoted message said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales.

The best boots are the ones that fit your feet and serve the
purpose, regardless of manufacturer.

Quoted message said:

must be goretex.

Why?

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Quoted message said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

I can un-recommend Brasher (at least the FMB1s and FMB2s) since the sole
unit is amazingly slippery on many surfaces. Not sure if the Hillmaster
uses the same sole.

However you need to see what fits you best .. no two makers seem to have
the same idea of what width / length / height a size N foot is.

And as someone else said, why Goretex? If you wax them properly leather
works just dandy, and Goretex just increases sweat problems for many
people. Of course finding a non-Goretex (or equivalent) boot these days
is a bit of a challenge. 8<,

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Ok let me quantify a few things. They don't need to be Gore-Tex, but do need
to be waterproof. I have size 9 wide feet. (size 43 a little tight 44's slop
all over the place) I like the firm vibram soles

They need to be strong durable outers as I have just returned a pair of
berghaus that frayed on the mesh at the side sue to gaiter use.

All your advise has been great.... but are there any I should avoid?

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Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

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millt said:

On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:44:00 GMT, "Gary"

garyholt'remove'@blueyonder.co.uk said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

I have had a pair of Chris Brasher fellmaster boots for ages, very
impressed indeed with these boots.

I had some once, can't remember which. I found them very comfortable, but as
someone else has suggested, they did wear out rather rapidly.

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GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

However you need to see what fits you best .. no two makers seem to have
the same idea of what width / length / height a size N foot is.

That's because no two size N feet are the same.
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Gary said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

I have just bought a pair of Meindl Burma Pro boots. They fit /me/ very
well which is the most important thing! They are goretex, which i get on
well with; i find the goretex allows my feed to breathe enough. They
have excellent ankle support, the sole seems very sticky indeed and they
look as though they will last a long time, though time will tell on that
one i guess.

I bought them from 'Tiso Outdoor Experience' in Glasgow who have a
policy of allowing you to take them home and wear them /indoors/ to make
sure that you are comfortable in them after wearing for a few hours
every day etc. This is an excellent service IMO and one you should try
to get when you buy your boots; it made the decision of choosing less
stressful for me as i knew i could take them back if i had any issues
with the fit.

I may get stick for this... BUT... I like the look of them too, they are
unobtrusive enough to wear out to the pub with a pair of jeans etc. This
was one of my criteria when buying; fit etc came first obviously. The
reason is that i felt if i was spending that amount of money on footwear
that i would prefer if their use was not just limited to the hill. I
fully expect all of the 'i don't care what people think of my shoes'
comments etc now 🙂

Hope this helps a bit

Gerry

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I've been using Goretex fabric boots for years with no problems. They have
taken me from the Yorkshire Dales through the Lakes and Scotland to the
Himalayas.
Waxed leather boots will last longer, generally you will get about 2 years
waterproofness from a Goretex lining in a fabric boot, but the leather ones
are much heavier and more tiring except for the Brasher lightweight type
which, as you have heard here, last no longer than a fabric boot.
It has become the in thing recently to knock Goretex linings, though with
very little justification in my view.
I am currently wearing Scarpa fabric/Goretex boots, going strong after 2
years+. Some new ones out by berghaus also look very good with a grippy
sole.
Just make sure you get a stiff sole unit in whichever boot you get and not
one of the "soggy rhubarb" soles.
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Ok let me quantify a few things. They don't need to be Gore-Tex, but do
need to be waterproof. I have size 9 wide feet. (size 43 a little tight
44's slop all over the place) I like the firm vibram soles

They need to be strong durable outers as I have just returned a pair of
berghaus that frayed on the mesh at the side sue to gaiter use.

All your advise has been great.... but are there any I should avoid?

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Quoted message said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed
peak district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

Brasher & Berghaus look good anycomments welcome?

I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from
Cuprager contained the following:

Quoted message said:

I have just bought a pair of Meindl Burma Pro boots.

Nice but not cheap. I found this website
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Meindl-Burma-Pro-MFS-GTX-Walking-Boot.html

Check out the product code

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I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from
Cuprager contained the following:

Quoted message said:

I have just bought a pair of Meindl Burma Pro boots.

Nice but not cheap. I found this website
http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Meindl-Burma-Pro-MFS-GTX-Walking-Boot.html

Check out the product code

LOL! I bought my meinbum's for £135. Not cheap but not the most
expensive either. You can save around £5 - £10 buying from the net...
you dont get the try at home service though.

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I have had a pair of Chris Brasher fellmaster boots for ages, very
impressed indeed with these boots.

Same here Millt. My last pair of Brasher Hillmaster GTX boots walked
coast to coast across Scotland four times - not to mention lots of
Munro-bagging - and the goretex linings never once got punctured as Lindsay
suggested they might. They've always been superbly comfortable, and in
combination with Smartwool socks I never get blisters.
I've just broken in another pair of Hillmasters, with another coast to
coast walk (Great Outdoor Challenge), and experienced the same level of
comfort.
As regards 'wear' in boots, I'm inclined to think that heavier people
wear out boots more quickly. I'm only 10 st so there's not a lot of
pressure on my boots. My partner is only 7½ st and her boots seem to last
forever.

Cuprager said:

you dont get the try at home service though.

Wrong. I did. I wouldn't have bought online otherwise. After all, why
should the way the customer gets the goods affect a trial period ?

Daytona

Quoted message said:

Can someone please tell me for the best boots for moderate walking ed peak
district and yorkshire dales. must be goretex.

A good outdoor shop with expert boot fitters!

Everyone can have their preference, but all our feet are different. I have
been using Meindl for a few years now, and find them great. I also tried
Scarpa SLs .... and lots of people rave about Scapa .... but my feet ache
like hell on the soles after a couple of hours walking. I have tried
wearing them around the house, shopping trips to the supermarket, short
walks from home on the lanes, and always the same problem. I have confined
them to the cupboard ..... unless someone here is interested in purchasing
them! Certainly low mileage.

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Daytona said:

Cuprager said:

you dont get the try at home service though.

Wrong. I did. I wouldn't have bought online otherwise. After all, why
should the way the customer gets the goods affect a trial period ?

Daytona

Sorry, i missed out the word 'same'! It costs you p&p to send the boots
backwards and forwards!

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Gary' garyholt'remove'@blueyonder.co.uk said:

I like the firm vibram soles

Soles could be the subject of a whole new discussion <g> ! I've been
impressed with the Vibram soles on my Karrimor GSX 300s, having never
had them before. I was testing them and I was surprised to find that
they do not slip even on wet 45 degree hard earth/grass slopes.

These boots are on the heavy side though at 1.6Kg, but I was on a
budget at the time and they were a £50 sale bargain ! If I was
choosing again I'd look to buy lighter and would consider Scapa as
they are often recommended.

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All your advise has been great.... but are there any I should avoid?

That's a good question as I reckon that there are more good boots than
bad, as long as you buy from a recognised manufacturer. Try browsing
the archive as there was a large boot wear thread recently -
<URL:http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.walking?hl=en>

Daytona

Cuprager said:

Daytona said:

Cuprager said:

you dont get the try at home service though.

Wrong. I did. I wouldn't have bought online otherwise. After all, why
should the way the customer gets the goods affect a trial period ?

Daytona

Sorry, i missed out the word 'same'!

Then I simply wouldn't use those retailers; they're too stupid to
deserve my business.

Quoted message said:

It costs you p&p to send the boots
backwards and forwards!

It costs me far more in time and hassle to go to a retail store than
it would even if I had to send them back. A potentially small price to
pay for the convenience imo. LIke most people, I've got standard UK
size feet so it makes it easy for me :-)

Daytona

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Quoted message said:

I also tried
Scarpa SLs .... and lots of people rave about Scapa .... but my feet ache
like hell on the soles after a couple of hours walking. I have tried
wearing them around the house, shopping trips to the supermarket, short
walks from home on the lanes, and always the same problem. I have confined
them to the cupboard ..... unless someone here is interested in purchasing
them! Certainly low mileage.

Size?

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