Best Bike Trainer??

"Bicyle Racing" <"spenconk"@swbell.net> wrote in message
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I am looking for my first indoor bike trainer for my road bike. Anyone

care

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to give me a suggestion? I am a triathlete and the bike is my weakest

part

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so I want to train hard this winter and spring and get my average speed up

a

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notch or two.

The best trainer you can get is some warm clothes.

Oh yeah, and triathalons are gay.

Thanks, Hold My.

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"Bicyle Racing" <"spenconk"@swbell.net> wrote in message
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I am looking for my first indoor bike trainer for my road bike. Anyone

care

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to give me a suggestion? I am a triathlete and the bike is my weakest

part

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so I want to train hard this winter and spring and get my average speed up

a

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notch or two.

The best trainer you can get is some warm clothes.

Oh yeah, and triathalons are gay.

Thanks, Hold My.

But if you live in the extreme Northeast of the country, warm clothes are not going to cut it when
the air temp is -25 and the wind chill is -40 like it has been for almost 2 weeks there. And aside
from that, why are you such a [censored]? Did you get weened off of the teat too early or something
like that?

Thanks, Tom

Something you'll learn over time ...... Tri-geeks aren't held in much regard by road cyclists .........

But to answer your question.

Fluid trainers have more issues than their worth, stay away from them, not to mention they are more expensive. Get a Mag trainer, preferrably one that has an adjustment lever that can mount on the handlebars so you can vary resistance.

Rollers are really good for form and spinning, but are a lot trickier for any type of performance/speed work.

I live in Maryland, and it has been pretty damn cold here, I certainly don't want to go out in 5 degree weather ........ I try to get in around 1,000 miles indoor between January and the end of March, which is a PITA, but makes for a strong year.

"Tom Arsenault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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But if you live in the extreme Northeast of the country, warm clothes are not going to cut it when
the air temp is -25 and the wind chill is -40 like it has been for almost 2 weeks there. And aside
from that, why are you such a [censored]? Did you get weened off of the teat too early or something
like that?

Sucka please,

Dressing properly, you can ride outside for extended periods when its it in the single digits.
Unless you live somewhere like Northern Vermont, Minnesota, or the UP of Michigan, there aren't many
places in the continental US where you have to ride exclusively indoors for more than a week due to
temperature alone. Most people don't train outside in the winter because they're not motivated to or
they don't know how to dress (and I strongly suspect Mr. Bicycle Racing falls into the latter
category).

So stick it up your arsenault.

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"Tom Arsenault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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But if you live in the extreme Northeast of the country, warm clothes are not going to cut it
when the air temp is -25 and the wind chill is -40 like it has been for almost 2 weeks there.
And aside from that, why are you such a [censored]? Did you get weened off of the teat too early
or something like that?

Sucka please,

Dressing properly, you can ride outside for extended periods when its it in the single digits.
Unless you live somewhere like Northern Vermont, Minnesota, or the UP of Michigan, there aren't
many places in the continental US where you have to ride exclusively indoors for more than a week
due to temperature alone. Most people don't train outside in the winter because they're not
motivated to or they don't know how to dress (and I strongly suspect Mr. Bicycle Racing falls into
the latter category).

So stick it up your arsenault.

I completely understand dressing properly in cold weather climates. I did live in Maine for 28
years, and spent lots of time outside in the winter camping, hiking, ice climbing, ski racing and
actually riding the bike at some points in time. It is hard to ride on the roads when there is salt,
ice, slush, snowplows, and other maladies that await you in the NE portion of the country. The best
thing was to get bundled up and head out into the woods on the mountain bike. Also I was referring
to their recent cold snap as of late (last week or so) where it's been negative temps everyday. Just
not smart to ride outside in such weather. Fortuntely for me, I live in NC now, and don't have to
deal with the mess. We can ride outside almost all year, save for a few days here and there because
of [censored] weather. Trainer time is a minimum, which is a good thing.

I also understand that tri-geeks aren't well repsected around here because of the elitist attitude
some of us push forward because we're so much better than anyone else. Give them a chance. I know a
few tri-geeks that could more than likely easily drop you in a regular road race.

Tom

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Originally posted by Hold My Beer An
there aren't manyplaces in the continental US where you have to ride exclusively indoors for more than a week due to
temperature alone. Most people don't train outside in the winter because they're not motivated to or
they don't know how to dress (and I strongly suspect Mr. Bicycle Racing falls into the latter
category).

Or some people have real jobs, and don't get home until after 6:00, when last time I checked, it's pitch black outside .............

And if you have ever read any real info. by medical professional's on the subject, it is a real bad idea to do any extended periods of strenuous exercise when it is below 40 degrees. Doesn't matter how warmly you dress, the air going into your lungs is still cold enough to damage things ..................

"Daremo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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And if you have ever read any real info. by medical professional's on the subject, it is a real
bad idea to do any extended periods of strenuous exercise when it is below 40 degrees. Doesn't
matter how warmly you dress, the air going into your lungs is still cold enough to damage things
..................

This is an old wive's tale.

Andy Coggan

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Originally posted by Andy Coggan
This is an old wive's tale.

Prove it and I'll believe you over the coaches I've worked with for running and other sports ..............

Daremo said:

And if you have ever read any real info. by medical professional's on the subject, it is a real
bad idea to do any extended periods of strenuous exercise when it is below 40 degrees. Doesn't
matter how warmly you dress, the air going into your lungs is still cold enough to damage things
..................

Have you mentioned this to Bjorn Dahlie?

Robert Chung said:

Have you mentioned this to Bjorn Dahlie?

Of course, he and all the other Nordic skiers have exercise-induced asthma.

(uh-huh).

"Daremo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Andy Coggan said:

This is an old wive's tale.

Prove it and I'll believe you over the coaches I've worked with for running and other sports
..............

Friggin' newbie Aussies...

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Andy Coggan (still Chief Science Officer of R.B.R.)

"Daremo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Prove it and I'll believe you over the coaches I've worked with for running and other sports
..............

Okay [censored], I'll prove it:

Cross country skiing is a sport.

Thanks, Hold My.

For what is worth, the german magazine Tour (12/2002) concluded in a comparative evaluation of
several of the most popular systems available in Europe, that the best trainer and the best value
was the Elite Fluid Elastometer. If I remember correctly the price was quite competitive.

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Fluid trainers have more issues than their worth, stay away from them,

you've had bad experiences? I expect some have. I've had a Performance adjustable one for 4 years(i
did return the first one cause it got noisy, but the replacement has been fine.

Daremo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<fhXNb.45971

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And if you have ever read any real info. by medical professional's on the subject, it is a real
bad idea to do any extended periods of strenuous exercise when it is below 40 degrees. Doesn't
matter how warmly you dress, the air going into your lungs is still cold enough to damage things
..................

I don't believe this. Can you give us a citation online?

JT

I have a 1up trainer and it blows away all the other trainers out there IMHO. Tire wear is similar
to road use, silent, great resistance curve, road-like feel because of the huge flywheel. They
guarantee this thing will be the ultimate trainer or you get your $ back.

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n article <[email hidden]>, Bicyle Racing

spenconk'@swbell.net said:

I am looking for my first indoor bike trainer for my road bike. Anyone care to give me a
suggestion? I am a triathlete and the bike is my weakest part so I want to train hard this winter
and spring and get my average speed up a notch or two.

So far I have seen the Trek Cyclops Fluid and that looks pretty good and is in the right price
range of under $300.

Andy Coggan said:

Friggin' newbie Aussies...

To be fair, the "aussie" part may not apply.

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Andy Coggan said:

This is an old wive's tale.

Prove it and I'll believe you over the coaches I've worked with for running and other sports
..............

I thought you said there was medical literature about what you said and that peopel should read
that. Is there literature or are you just repeating what these running coaches said? And did they
claim there is literature on that or were you just making that part up?

JT

Tom Arsenault said:

Fortuntely for me, I live in NC now, and don't have to deal with the mess. We can ride outside
almost all year, save for a few days here and there because of [censored] weather. Trainer time is a
minimum, which is a good thing.

Lucky you. When I lived in NC, riding during July and August was usually out of the question. I can
handle 0-degree temperatures, but there's nothing I can do about 100F with 95% humidity. Nothing.

I live in Maryland now and August is still pretty horrific. I think I get more riding done in
January than I do in August.

--Noel