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  1. I'm writing to get suggestions for a couple of ladies at work who were
    intrigued when I described a recumbent to them. Both ladies are
    probably (guessing a lady's age could be hazardous...) in their 40's,
    quite trim, and about 5'5" - 5'7". Neither of them presently ride a
    bike mainly because they both have back problems which make it too
    painful for them to ride a DF. They would both like to ride for
    recreational/health reasons and would have no interest in long
    distance riding, racing, or high speed club rides.

    My wife and I ride an upright tandem so I don't know much about the
    'bent world. And I know of only one dealer within a reasonable
    distance that they might be willing to drive to for test rides. That
    dealer sells some recumbents and from what I recall they stock some
    RANS and maybe Burleys.

    I have two reservations about the dealer: First, there is not a
    parking lot for test rides. The dealer is located in a quiet
    residential area, but all of the roads in the area are quite hilly. I
    would think that would present difficulties for a beginner trying to
    test ride a 'bent for the first time. Secondly, the recumbents are a
    side line for that dealer, so I don't know how much he might be
    pushing a particular bike he has in stock, rather than working to get
    the best possible bike for their individual needs.

    Would it be a good idea to suggest that the dealer set up a
    prospective bike on a trainer so that they can get an idea of how the
    bike feels without having to worry about trying to balance, shift and
    brake (because of the hills) and watch out for cars?

    Any recommendations of a specific bike would be most appreciated.

    Harry

  2. HarryB said:

    I'm writing to get suggestions for a couple of ladies at work who were
    intrigued when I described a recumbent to them. Both ladies are
    probably (guessing a lady's age could be hazardous...) in their 40's,
    quite trim, and about 5'5" - 5'7". Neither of them presently ride a
    bike mainly because they both have back problems which make it too
    painful for them to ride a DF. They would both like to ride for
    recreational/health reasons and would have no interest in long
    distance riding, racing, or high speed club rides.

    My wife and I ride an upright tandem so I don't know much about the
    'bent world. And I know of only one dealer within a reasonable
    distance that they might be willing to drive to for test rides. That
    dealer sells some recumbents and from what I recall they stock some
    RANS and maybe Burleys.

    I have two reservations about the dealer: First, there is not a
    parking lot for test rides. The dealer is located in a quiet
    residential area, but all of the roads in the area are quite hilly. I
    would think that would present difficulties for a beginner trying to
    test ride a 'bent for the first time. Secondly, the recumbents are a
    side line for that dealer, so I don't know how much he might be
    pushing a particular bike he has in stock, rather than working to get
    the best possible bike for their individual needs.

    Would it be a good idea to suggest that the dealer set up a
    prospective bike on a trainer so that they can get an idea of how the
    bike feels without having to worry about trying to balance, shift and
    brake (because of the hills) and watch out for cars?

    Any recommendations of a specific bike would be most appreciated.

    This may sound strange to the uninitiated, but short wheelbase (SWB)
    recumbents are generally better for taller riders and long wheelbase
    (LWB) are generally better for shorter riders. Compact long wheelbase
    (CLWB) bikes generally fit most riders.

    Most dealers have an account with J&B, so they can order the Sun line
    of recumbents. The CLWB EZ-1 SC [1] is fun and easy to ride, and would
    work well for the purposes described, but the weight would be a
    disadvantage in hilly areas. For about 50% more money, the "Lite"
    version [2] offers better components and significantly less weight. The
    LWB EZ Sport should provide better performance and ride comfort, but is
    a physically larger bike that presents more issue for storage and
    transport.

    The RANS Tailwind [4] is a surprising fast bike and an excellent value
    for the money, and fits riders in the mid 5-foot range very well. It
    will do fine for the stated purpose, but is also a capable long
    distance bike, so the rider will not necessarily outgrow it if she
    expands her range of riding types.

    Burley offers the Jett Creek [5] and Koosah which are similar to the
    RANS Tailwind in that they should suit both recreational and more
    ambitious riders well.

    The RANS and Burley bikes have high quality frames and decent to good
    components, and both companies have good reputations for supporting
    their products.

    [1] <http://www.easyracers.com/ez_1_sc.htm>.
    [2] <http://www.easyracers.com/ez_1_lite.htm>.
    [3] <http://www.easyracers.com/ez_sport.htm>.
    [4] <http://www.ransbikes.com/tailwind.htm>.
    [5]
    <http://www.burley.com/products/recumbents/default73ce.html?p=Jett+Creek&i=0>.
    [6]
    <http://www.burley.com/products/recumbents/default4269.html?p=Koosah&i=1>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley Pedant

  3. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    This may sound strange to the uninitiated, but short wheelbase (SWB)
    recumbents are generally better for taller riders and long wheelbase
    (LWB) are generally better for shorter riders. Compact long wheelbase
    (CLWB) bikes generally fit most riders.

    I recall coming across this thought too, but I am not sure why it is so. A
    LWB bike for a tall rider will have to be an extra large size which results
    in a rather long bike, but other than that I do not see why any other
    wheelbase would be better. Fit is everything. I will admit however that SWB
    will fit short and tall riders equally well. That is not the case with LWB,
    which is why you need so many different sizes.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  4. Edward Dolan wrote (on topic, no less):

    Quoted message said:

    "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    This may sound strange to the uninitiated, but short wheelbase (SWB)
    recumbents are generally better for taller riders and long wheelbase
    (LWB) are generally better for shorter riders. Compact long wheelbase
    (CLWB) bikes generally fit most riders.

    I recall coming across this thought too, but I am not sure why it is so....

    The cranks should not overlap the front wheel [1], as crank to tire
    contact will dump the rider in a hurry - this determines minimum boom
    length and height. Therefore, a short legged rider will end up sitting
    very close to the front wheel, which compromises proper weight
    distribution (and can make the use of OSS difficult). This is why there
    are no highracers for short to medium height riders, and SWB bicycles
    intended for shorter riders have front wheels ranging from ISO 305-mm
    to ISO 369-mm in size.

    In addition, to keep the seat low enough to the ground for shorter
    riders will require a curved main tube on a SWB, but is easily
    achievable with straight tubing on a LWB.

    [1] Unless one is riding a no-compromise bicycle intended for primarily
    racing use.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley Pedant

  5. Got any thing like this in USA?
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/spirit/details_e.html
    Makes a great first 'bent

    SW

    "HarryB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm writing to get suggestions for a couple of ladies at work who were
    intrigued when I described a recumbent to them. Both ladies are
    probably (guessing a lady's age could be hazardous...) in their 40's,
    quite trim, and about 5'5" - 5'7". Neither of them presently ride a
    bike mainly because they both have back problems which make it too
    painful for them to ride a DF. They would both like to ride for
    recreational/health reasons and would have no interest in long
    distance riding, racing, or high speed club rides.

    My wife and I ride an upright tandem so I don't know much about the
    'bent world. And I know of only one dealer within a reasonable
    distance that they might be willing to drive to for test rides. That
    dealer sells some recumbents and from what I recall they stock some
    RANS and maybe Burleys.

    I have two reservations about the dealer: First, there is not a
    parking lot for test rides. The dealer is located in a quiet
    residential area, but all of the roads in the area are quite hilly. I
    would think that would present difficulties for a beginner trying to
    test ride a 'bent for the first time. Secondly, the recumbents are a
    side line for that dealer, so I don't know how much he might be
    pushing a particular bike he has in stock, rather than working to get
    the best possible bike for their individual needs.

    Would it be a good idea to suggest that the dealer set up a
    prospective bike on a trainer so that they can get an idea of how the
    bike feels without having to worry about trying to balance, shift and
    brake (because of the hills) and watch out for cars?

    Any recommendations of a specific bike would be most appreciated.

    Harry

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, Steve W

    () said:

    Got any thing like this in USA?
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/spirit/details_e.html
    Makes a great first 'bent

    They have that Cannondale Thing. Don't know what the comparative prices
    are like Over There, but in the BRITONS' England the Cannondale is about
    half as much again as the Spirit.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    I am now returned from both the seventeenth century and the Post Office.

  7. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan wrote (on topic, no less):

    Quoted message said:

    "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    This may sound strange to the uninitiated, but short wheelbase (SWB)
    recumbents are generally better for taller riders and long wheelbase
    (LWB) are generally better for shorter riders. Compact long wheelbase
    (CLWB) bikes generally fit most riders.

    I recall coming across this thought too, but I am not sure why it is
    so....

    The cranks should not overlap the front wheel [1], as crank to tire
    contact will dump the rider in a hurry - this determines minimum boom
    length and height. Therefore, a short legged rider will end up sitting
    very close to the front wheel, which compromises proper weight
    distribution (and can make the use of OSS difficult). This is why there
    are no highracers for short to medium height riders, and SWB bicycles
    intended for shorter riders have front wheels ranging from ISO 305-mm
    to ISO 369-mm in size.

    In addition, to keep the seat low enough to the ground for shorter
    riders will require a curved main tube on a SWB, but is easily
    achievable with straight tubing on a LWB.

    [1] Unless one is riding a no-compromise bicycle intended for primarily
    racing use.

    Yes, all of the above makes sense. I am a bit long legged myself and I do
    not always appreciate the problems that shorter riders may have fitting
    themselves to a recumbent. I think many women get into trouble on this issue
    of sizing since most recumbents are designed with men in mind.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan (still on topic) - Minnesota

    PS. Why don't you choose for a user name Tommy Sunset? The Johnny makes no
    sense at all.

  8. Edward Dolan said:

    ....
    PS. Why don't you choose for a user name Tommy Sunset? The Johnny makes no
    sense at all.

    Johnny NoCom - Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny ReBike - Slowest Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny Sunset - Most Fun Bike in the Known Universe

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

  9. Dave Larrington said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Steve W

    () said:

    Got any thing like this in USA?
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/spirit/details_e.html
    Makes a great first 'bent

    They have that Cannondale Thing. Don't know what the comparative prices
    are like Over There, but in the BRITONS' England the Cannondale is about
    half as much again as the Spirit.

    The Cannondale Bent I [1] and Bent II [2] are in the same price range
    as the HP Velotechnik Spirit in the US, since the cost increases due to
    shipping, import duties and currency exchange rates work the other
    direction. Exact price comparisons are difficult due to different
    equipment levels (HP Velotechnik offers many optional extras and
    upgrades).

    [1] <http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/06/CUSA/model-6BMER.html>.
    [2] <http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/06/CUSA/model-6BMRR.html>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

  10. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ....
    PS. Why don't you choose for a user name Tommy Sunset? The Johnny makes
    no
    sense at all.

    Johnny NoCom - Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny ReBike - Slowest Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny Sunset - Most Fun Bike in the Known Universe

    All of the above is transitory at best. It will be soon gone and forgotten.
    Your name is Tommy, not Johnny.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

    Not happy in the Fox River Valley? I recommend that you move into the inner
    city of Chicago, maybe get an apartment near DePaul University. The suburbs
    are for married folks with children.

    Why not enjoy life and move into the city. That way you could attend the
    Chicago Symphony concerts and take in cultural events at the universities
    (Northwestern U. and U. of Chicago). That is my idea of the good life, not
    running around those confounded suburbs in motor vehicles.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan - Minnesota

  11. Edward Dolan said:

    "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Edward Dolan said:

    ....
    PS. Why don't you choose for a user name Tommy Sunset? The Johnny makes
    no
    sense at all.

    Johnny NoCom - Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny ReBike - Slowest Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny Sunset - Most Fun Bike in the Known Universe

    All of the above is transitory at best. It will be soon gone and forgotten.
    Your name is Tommy, not Johnny.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

    Not happy in the Fox River Valley? I recommend that you move into the inner
    city of Chicago, maybe get an apartment near DePaul University. The suburbs
    are for married folks with children.

    Why not enjoy life and move into the city. That way you could attend the
    Chicago Symphony concerts and take in cultural events at the universities
    (Northwestern U. and U. of Chicago). That is my idea of the good life, not
    running around those confounded suburbs in motor vehicles.

    Actually, I may end up living in KK's neighborhood. However, I would
    need to lose significant weight and improve my aerobic conditioning to
    ride with KK, even if he was on his dumpster salvage bike. 🙁

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

  12. "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Johnny NoCom - Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny ReBike - Slowest Bike in the Known Universe

    I'd like to see the results from a NoCom vs. ReBike bike
    race on level surface. Just the bikes, no riders.

    Perhaps someone in the great state of Illinois can set
    that competition up. For a reasonable fee, I am available
    to officiate.

    Quoted message said:

    Johnny Sunset - Most Fun Bike in the Known Universe

    More than a barrel of monkeys?

    Jon Meinecke

    "This breaking news just in, Generalísimo Francisco
    Franco is still dead!"

  13. Jon Meinecke said:

    "Johnny Sunset" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Johnny NoCom - Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe

    Johnny ReBike - Slowest Bike in the Known Universe

    I'd like to see the results from a NoCom vs. ReBike bike
    race on level surface. Just the bikes, no riders.

    Perhaps someone in the great state of Illinois can set
    that competition up. For a reasonable fee, I am available
    to officiate.

    I know one (1) ReBike and several Velokraft NoCom owners in
    Chicagoland.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Johnny Sunset - Most Fun Bike in the Known Universe

    More than a barrel of monkeys?

    Regular monkeys or Monkey Island monkeys?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley (For a bit?)

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