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  1. Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a motorcycle?

    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety Foundation
    training class. I had a motorcycle a couple of different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no
    interest in having one again until fairly recently when it became clear I would soon be working away
    from home much more than I have in the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract training
    position and will be commuting to a number of different locations, for most if not all of which
    bicycle commuting would not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn

  2. I've been riding motorcycles for the past 37 years. I enjoy taking mine out for a spin. Don't ride
    it near as much as I used to because I commute rear round by bicycle.

    What type of commute are you looking at?

    If you are on the open road a cruiser is nice and comfy. I ride a Yamaha Virago 1100. Nice on the
    open road but I wouldn't want to hang out in town and traffic. I have taken it out 300-400 mile
    trips in a day and felt pretty comfortable when I was done.

    If you are in a situation where you are in a mixed commute (some open road and some in town) I would
    probably look at some sort of inline 4 cylinder in the 650-750 cc range. A lighter bike for
    maneuvering in heavy traffic but has enough oomph to get you out of (or into) harms way. My last
    bike a Suzuki GS750L was capable of hitting 120mph with little effort. A bike of this size will also
    be able to do longer trips in some comfort. I used to ride it 400 miles at a pop. (I looked and felt
    like Quasimoto when I was done.)

    If you are commuting strictly in town you may look at something in the 350cc range. Lighter and more
    maneuverable in town, capable of good speeds for short trips on the freeway, and better mileage.

    I would look at used bikes. I bought my Virago (a 1995 model) in 1998. It had 2500 miles on it and
    came with saddlebags, windscreen, road pegs, throttle lock, an after market exhaust system, and the
    original exhaust system. I picked this up at a dealer for about a grand under blue book and it had
    about a $1000 worth of accessories. I just happened to walk in as they were marking it down.

    I would also suggest that you try as many bikes on for size as you can. One of the bikes I was
    looking at made me feel like I had been folded, spindled, and mutilated. All of that from sitting on
    if for a few minutes. Other folks that ride them love them.

    The advice is much the same as if you are buying a recumbent. Figure out what your needs are, try
    some bikes that fit your needs, and be prepared to move quickly if you are buying used. Good deals
    go away very quickly. Another item to keep in mind is the time of year. In the Gray North West most
    prices on motorcycles drop in the fall and winter. They pick up again in the spring and summer.

    Good Luck.

    William Higley, Sr. Vision R-50 & Yamaha Virago 1100 "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:LYkVa.2704$Ho3.545@sccrnsc03...

    Quoted message said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a motorcycle?

    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety Foundation
    training class. I had a motorcycle a couple


    of

    Quoted message said:

    different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no interest in having one again until fairly
    recently when it became clear I would soon be working away from home much more than I have in the
    past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract training position and will be commuting to a number
    of different locations, for most if not all of which bicycle commuting would not be practical.)
    But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn

  3. I have an old on/off road Yamaha 500 that's fun to take out now and then. A back pack is used for
    commuting which can be a pain in the back sometimes. Honda and Suzuki have 600 cc scooters that do
    120 mph with ample luggage space. Also on my wish list is the Gurney Alligator.
    www.allamericanracers.com Speedy

    Greg Dunn said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a motorcycle?

    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety Foundation
    training class. I had a motorcycle a couple of different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no
    interest in having one again until fairly recently when it became clear I would soon be working
    away from home much more than I have in the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract
    training position and will be commuting to a number of different locations, for most if not all of
    which bicycle commuting would not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn

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  4. "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<LYkVa.2704$Ho3.545@sccrnsc03>...

    Quoted message said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a motorcycle?


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    And here I thought you were asking about recumbent motorcycles:
    eurosoft-ind.demon.co.ukffbikes.htm

    Jeff

  5. I'm looking in the 600-750cc range for a mixed commute. Definitely looking at used, since it's my
    first bike in ages, and to see how I take to it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    In the Gray North West most prices on motorcycles drop in the fall and winter. They pick up again in
    the spring and summer. <<

    I don't know when they fall around here (east SF Bay area). Probably most in the "winter" - there
    are a couple of months where it rains a lot. But right now it's hot as blazes, so that oughta be
    second best as a discouraging factor.

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "William Higley, Sr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been riding motorcycles for the past 37 years. I enjoy taking mine


    out

    Quoted message said:

    for a spin. Don't ride it near as much as I used to because I commute rear round by bicycle.

    What type of commute are you looking at?

    If you are on the open road a cruiser is nice and comfy. I ride a Yamaha Virago 1100. Nice on the
    open road but I wouldn't want to hang out in town and traffic. I have taken it out 300-400 mile
    trips in a day and felt


    pretty

    Quoted message said:

    comfortable when I was done.

    If you are in a situation where you are in a mixed commute (some open road and some in town) I
    would probably look at some sort of inline 4 cylinder


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the 650-750 cc range. A lighter bike for maneuvering in heavy traffic but has enough oomph to get
    you out of (or into) harms way. My last bike a Suzuki GS750L was capable of hitting 120mph with
    little effort. A bike of this size will also be able to do longer trips in some comfort. I used to
    ride it 400 miles at a pop. (I looked and felt like Quasimoto when I was done.)

    If you are commuting strictly in town you may look at something in the


    350cc

    Quoted message said:

    range. Lighter and more maneuverable in town, capable of good speeds for short trips on the
    freeway, and better mileage.

    I would look at used bikes. I bought my Virago (a 1995 model) in 1998. It had 2500 miles on it and
    came with saddlebags, windscreen, road pegs, throttle lock, an after market exhaust system, and
    the original exhaust system. I picked this up at a dealer for about a grand under blue book and it
    had about a $1000 worth of accessories. I just happened to walk in as they were marking it down.

    I would also suggest that you try as many bikes on for size as you can.


    One

    Quoted message said:

    of the bikes I was looking at made me feel like I had been folded,


    spindled,

    Quoted message said:

    and mutilated. All of that from sitting on if for a few minutes. Other


    folks

    Quoted message said:

    that ride them love them.

    The advice is much the same as if you are buying a recumbent. Figure out what your needs are, try
    some bikes that fit your needs, and be prepared


    to

    Quoted message said:

    move quickly if you are buying used. Good deals go away very quickly. Another item to keep in mind
    is the time of year. In the Gray North West most prices on motorcycles drop in the fall and
    winter. They pick up again in the spring and summer.

    Good Luck.

    William Higley, Sr. Vision R-50 & Yamaha Virago 1100 "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:LYkVa.2704$Ho3.545@sccrnsc03...

    Quoted message said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a


    motorcycle?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety
    Foundation training class. I had a motorcycle a


    couple

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no interest in having one again until fairly
    recently when it became clear I would soon be working away from home much more than I have in
    the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract training position and will be commuting to a
    number


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    different locations, for most if not all of which bicycle commuting


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn


  6. Quoted message said:

    Also on my wish list is the Gurney Alligator. www.allamericanracers.com

    Damn, how do you see out of that thing? Periscope?

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "S. Delaire "Rotatorrecumbent"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have an old on/off road Yamaha 500 that's fun to take out now and then. A back pack is used for
    commuting which can be a pain in the back


    sometimes.

    Quoted message said:

    Honda and Suzuki have 600 cc scooters that do 120 mph with ample luggage


    space.

    Quoted message said:

    Also on my wish list is the Gurney Alligator. www.allamericanracers.com Speedy

    Greg Dunn said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a


    motorcycle?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety
    Foundation training class. I had a motorcycle a


    couple of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no interest in having one again until fairly
    recently when it became clear I would soon be working away from home much more than I have in
    the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract training position and will be commuting to a
    number


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    different locations, for most if not all of which bicycle commuting


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn

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  7. Makes sense, but one brand of premium-price vehicle is enough for me at this point.

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<LYkVa.2704$Ho3.545@sccrnsc03>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a


    motorcycle?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    And here I thought you were asking about recumbent motorcycles:
    eurosoft-ind.demon.co.ukffbikes.htm

    Jeff

  8. Don't forget BMW makes motorcycles. Some of the older models are super reliable and I've seen them
    go an amazing number of miles. BMW riders are to milage as bent riders are to average speed.

    skip

  9. I have two vehicles. My RANS Vivo and my 85 Honda Goldwing Aspencade. Though, presently, I am
    utterly internal-combustion free, as my 'Wing stripped a fairly new timing belt and now needs a
    valve job.

    Incidentally, you can see a pic of one being transported by the other at
    community.webshots.comdavid luecke , in the bicycling folder.

    --
    David Luecke Ridin' a RANS Vivo (wahoo!) Merritt Island, Florida USA

  10. Another item to look at is the availability of parts and qualified repair shops. A friend of mine
    rode a BMW and loved it. But, every time he took it to a qualified BMW mechanic he wound up paying
    nearly twice as much for parts and labor as I did, and usually had to wait a long time for any
    repair work. He finally got so worked up about it he sold the bike. He hasn't ridden in the past six
    years. "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget BMW makes motorcycles. Some of the older models are super reliable and I've seen them
    go an amazing number of miles. BMW riders are to milage as bent riders are to average speed.

    skip

  11. "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bdCVa.13858$YN5.10278@sccrnsc01:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm looking in the 600-750cc range for a mixed commute. Definitely looking at used, since it's my
    first bike in ages, and to see how I take to it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    In the Gray North West most prices on motorcycles drop in the fall and winter. They pick up again
    in the spring and summer. <<

    I don't know when they fall around here (east SF Bay area). Probably most in the "winter" - there
    are a couple of months where it rains a lot. But right now it's hot as blazes, so that oughta be
    second best as a discouraging factor.

    Honda NT650 GT, more commonly known as the Hawk GT. Twin cyl funbike. Fabulous all around machine.
    Only made them from 88-92?, they go for around $3,000 in great shape, low miles. Newer?: Suzuki
    SV650 twin, a modern copy of the Hawk with more horsepower and better suspension. More money since
    they are newer, about 1999 to present. Don't buy any commuter bike without checking one of these
    bikes out. Great fun.

  12. Bike week had a feature on the Alligator last night. the 0 to 60 time is 3.1 seconds With the
    eyeballs glued to the back of your head from acceleration it would be hard, indeed, to see out of
    that thing. Speedy

    Greg Dunn said:
    Quoted message said:

    Also on my wish list is the Gurney Alligator. www.allamericanracers.com

    Damn, how do you see out of that thing? Periscope?

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "S. Delaire "Rotatorrecumbent"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have an old on/off road Yamaha 500 that's fun to take out now and then. A back pack is used
    for commuting which can be a pain in the back


    sometimes.

    Quoted message said:

    Honda and Suzuki have 600 cc scooters that do 120 mph with ample luggage


    space.

    Quoted message said:

    Also on my wish list is the Gurney Alligator. www.allamericanracers.com Speedy

    Greg Dunn said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a


    motorcycle?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety
    Foundation training class. I had a motorcycle a


    couple of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no interest in having one again until fairly
    recently when it became clear I would soon be working away from home much more than I have in
    the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract training position and will be commuting to
    a number


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    different locations, for most if not all of which bicycle commuting


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    --
    Greg Dunn

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  13. [email hidden] (Duncan Cooper) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I recently went through the same issue; the urge to motorcycle after years of benting. I've ridden
    bents for 8 years now, and currently own 4. Twenty five years ago I rode motorcycles, and the bug
    has returned. Soooooooooo

    After a "negotiating session" with my wife, I bought a beater 77 Yamaha 400 for a song. Made it my
    winter project and completely restored it. Complete dissassembly, sandblasting, painting, the
    whole shebang. Now, $600 later (total cost) I've got a superb vintage machine which looks and runs
    great. Less than the cost of a good used bent. Did the full-face helmet/ armored jacket and trou
    thing too. Got the "road rash" check in the box and don't want to do it again (on my Vision no
    less...).

    Now I ride both regularly. Here's the odd part.... I actually get more satisfaction from a 50 mi
    ride on my Vision than from the Yamaha. Must be the Human-Power thing. Don't misunderstand, I'm
    not an enviro-fanatic. Nobody enjoys converting petrochemicals to kinetic energy more than me.
    Still, I get a bigger high from the leg-burn associated with a hard ride. Hmmmmm....

    I heartily recommend getting a motorcycle if it interests you. Plenty of info and advice around.
    Just go for it !

    Coop

    Ride safe, but RIDE.

    Bingo, I can't let myself get a motorcycle again. I KNOW I'd be out on it some of those Sat
    afternoons instead of sweating my way back into shape.

  14. I have read that the Suzuki Hayabusa does 0-60 in 2.8.

    --
    David Luecke Ridin' a RANS Vivo (wahoo!) Merritt Island, Florida USA

  15. Vision R44 and BMW R1100R. Both offer superior comfort/value/mechanics ratio. Cool factor, if
    counted, is on the esoteric side, price is high end. BUT, riding either is a blast for speed,
    agility, control. After riding a half dozen other (motor)bikes, larger and smaller, from wherever, I
    think this BMW gives me the most options (small, underpowered bikes scare me). The Vision offers
    comfort with ergo efficency and sufficient WOW factor. What more is there?

  16. I recently went through the same issue; the urge to motorcycle after years of benting. I've ridden
    bents for 8 years now, and currently own 4. Twenty five years ago I rode motorcycles, and the bug
    has returned. Soooooooooo

    After a "negotiating session" with my wife, I bought a beater 77 Yamaha 400 for a song. Made it my
    winter project and completely restored it. Complete dissassembly, sandblasting, painting, the whole
    shebang. Now, $600 later (total cost) I've got a superb vintage machine which looks and runs great.
    Less than the cost of a good used bent. Did the full-face helmet/ armored jacket and trou thing too.
    Got the "road rash" check in the box and don't want to do it again (on my Vision no less...).

    Now I ride both regularly. Here's the odd part.... I actually get more satisfaction from a 50 mi
    ride on my Vision than from the Yamaha. Must be the Human-Power thing. Don't misunderstand, I'm not
    an enviro-fanatic. Nobody enjoys converting petrochemicals to kinetic energy more than me. Still, I
    get a bigger high from the leg-burn associated with a hard ride. Hmmmmm....

    I heartily recommend getting a motorcycle if it interests you. Plenty of info and advice around.
    Just go for it !

    Coop

    Ride safe, but RIDE.

  17. I was thinking of the R series with the twin boxer engine. It's been a long time since I read Zen
    and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, but the R series would seem to be much easier to maintain
    than the newer, much more complicated K series.

    skip

    "William Higley, Sr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Another item to look at is the availability of parts and qualified repair shops. A friend of mine
    rode a BMW and loved it. But, every time he took


    it

    Quoted message said:

    to a qualified BMW mechanic he wound up paying nearly twice as much for parts and labor as I did,
    and usually had to wait a long time for any


    repair

    Quoted message said:

    work. He finally got so worked up about it he sold the bike. He hasn't ridden in the past six
    years. "skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget BMW makes motorcycles. Some of the older models are super reliable and I've seen
    them go an amazing number of miles. BMW riders


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to milage as bent riders are to average speed.

    skip


  18. "Greg Dunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<LYkVa.2704$Ho3.545@sccrnsc03>...

    Quoted message said:

    Just curious: how many of you who ride recumbents also ride a motorcycle?

    I've been looking at them (seriously) lately, and just completed the Motorcycle Safety Foundation
    training class. I had a motorcycle a couple of different times (both 20+ years ago), and had no
    interest in having one again until fairly recently when it became clear I would soon be working
    away from home much more than I have in the past couple of years. (I'm starting a contract
    training position and will be commuting to a number of different locations, for most if not all of
    which bicycle commuting would not be practical.) But I really do not enjoy driving a car, so...

    Hi Greg, I've got 2 motorcycles. One is a 1981 Yamaha SR 500. 4 stroke single cylinder street bike.
    Still get 60+ mpg.Bought it used 18 yrs ago. My second is a 1981 BMW R100. A great hiway bike. I got
    it 3 weeks ago. Love 'em both. No car though, but I could use a truck. Almost! Paul Milner

  19. Rode motorcycles for many years, got out of it for about 15 years, went into recumbent business, got
    out of recumbent business, went back to motorcycles. For those who are financially challenged old
    motorcycles are a good deal. I've had a 1978 Gold Wing for 3 years now, got it and a sidecar for
    nothing (long story) bike only had 23000 miles on it, sold sidecar for $1000 and replaced old tires,
    timing belts etc. spent about $500. First time I've ever come out ahead on a vehicle. The old Gold
    Wings are really good bikes, super smooth, handle way better than one would think, 0-60 4.5 seconds,
    top end of about 120, run all day at any reasonable speed. Heard of people going 200,000 miles
    without problems. Also had a 1986 Kawasaki Concours that I rode from Eugene, Or. to Boston last
    summer. Another great bike, a real rocket ship, 108 HP 0-60 in about 3.5 seconds. Got 43.5 mpg while
    spending a lot of time at 80mph. Although I really liked the Kawasaki I sold it and will stick with
    the gold Wings because used parts are plentiful and inexpensive. I found another low mileage 79 GW
    with a sidecar for $700 that I'm redoing. Great hobby.

    [censored] Ryan

  20. Quoted message said:

    Now I ride both regularly. Here's the odd part.... I actually get more satisfaction from a 50 mi
    ride on my Vision than from the Yamaha. Must be the Human-Power thing. Don't misunderstand, I'm
    not an enviro-fanatic. Nobody enjoys converting petrochemicals to kinetic energy more than me.
    Still, I get a bigger high from the leg-burn associated with a hard ride. Hmmmmm....

    I know just what you're talking about. I had a Honda CB350 in the early 80's, which I got toward the
    end of graduate school after years of riding a bicycle for my primary transportation. I remember
    being very disappointed that at the end of a long motorcycle ride I didn't have that feeling I was
    used to, in association with cycling, of being "recreated". All that throughput of oxygen, the
    working of the muscles, etc, makes the experience of bicycling quite different.

    But...there are places I need to go that are too far, or too far too often, or that I need to be
    able to get to in work clothes without having to go through a complicated cleanup and
    clothes-changing arrangement. So I think I'll enjoy those trips more on a motorcycle than in a car,
    and use a few less resources in the process.

    --
    Greg Dunn

    "Duncan Cooper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I recently went through the same issue; the urge to motorcycle after years of benting. I've ridden
    bents for 8 years now, and currently own 4. Twenty five years ago I rode motorcycles, and the bug
    has returned. Soooooooooo

    After a "negotiating session" with my wife, I bought a beater 77 Yamaha 400 for a song. Made it my
    winter project and completely restored it. Complete dissassembly, sandblasting, painting, the
    whole shebang. Now, $600 later (total cost) I've got a superb vintage machine which looks and runs
    great. Less than the cost of a good used bent. Did the full-face helmet/ armored jacket and trou
    thing too. Got the "road rash" check in the box and don't want to do it again (on my Vision no
    less...).

    Now I ride both regularly. Here's the odd part.... I actually get more satisfaction from a 50 mi
    ride on my Vision than from the Yamaha. Must be the Human-Power thing. Don't misunderstand, I'm
    not an enviro-fanatic. Nobody enjoys converting petrochemicals to kinetic energy more than me.
    Still, I get a bigger high from the leg-burn associated with a hard ride. Hmmmmm....

    I heartily recommend getting a motorcycle if it interests you. Plenty of info and advice around.
    Just go for it !

    Coop

    Ride safe, but RIDE.

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