bell helmet visors?

Your helmet is designed for "road" use. Off-road mountain bike helmets
have visors, though I don't know why this distinction exists. I use a
visor on my road rides anyway, for sun protection.
You can probably retrofit a scrapped MTB helmet visor to your road
helmet using adhesive velcro patches.

r.b.

Mike said:

Is there a manufacturer/seller of after market bell helmet
visors? My helmet did not come with a visor and I want
to put one on it?

Mike

You can put a visor on. Most have velco in front and a
pin on each side. I did the job last week after a helmet I got for
Christmas didn't come with one. I used the visor from my old old old
helmet which I [censored].

flatline said:

Your helmet is designed for "road" use. Off-road mountain bike helmets
have visors, though I don't know why this distinction exists.

IMO, it's because of ride position on a road bike. When you're in the
drops, especially, the visor blocks your view of the road ahead.

This can be a minor safety hazard ;-)
--
Live simply so that others may simply live

Neil Brooks said:

IMO, it's because of ride position on a road bike. When you're in the
drops, especially, the visor blocks your view of the road ahead.

This can be a minor safety hazard ;-)

I sure would not want one on my helmet for just the reason Neil says.
If the OP's gotta have one, though, he could post his general location
and maybe some kind hearted roadie would send him his unused visor.

catzz66 said:

Neil Brooks said:

IMO, it's because of ride position on a road bike. When you're in the
drops, especially, the visor blocks your view of the road ahead.

This can be a minor safety hazard ;-)

I sure would not want one on my helmet for just the reason Neil says.
If the OP's gotta have one, though, he could post his general location
and maybe some kind hearted roadie would send him his unused visor.

I'm trying to get into touring. In this more upright position I want
to keep the sun out of my eyes, etc. That's why I'm asking about visors.

Mike

Mike said:

catzz66 said:

Neil Brooks said:

IMO, it's because of ride position on a road bike. When you're in the
drops, especially, the visor blocks your view of the road ahead.

This can be a minor safety hazard ;-)

I sure would not want one on my helmet for just the reason Neil says.
If the OP's gotta have one, though, he could post his general location
and maybe some kind hearted roadie would send him his unused visor.

I'm trying to get into touring. In this more upright position I want
to keep the sun out of my eyes, etc. That's why I'm asking about visors.

But will you /have/ drop bars? If so, then--even if it's just to take
the pressure off of one spot or another--you'll likely want to change
hand positions from time to time.

I'm not trying to talk you out of your quest. I hope that's clear.
Just something to think about.

I think some of the visors do flip up, by the way. Maybe you'll have
the best of both worlds.

Have fun touring!
--
Live simply so that others may simply live

I use a visor when touring (mountain helmet for this purpose), and not when
road riding.
Both with drop bars, but with a higher stem position on my tourer than my
race bike. It's really nice to not worry about frying your nose if you
forget to add SPF45 or something beyond the standard 15 I use in general.

Like some have mentioned, I'm sure you can rig an old visor (I bet your LBS
has some in a box) to your helmet. Alternatively, helmets are really,
really cheap at this time of the year, if you're not opposed to owning two.

-pete

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Quoted message said:

Mike said:

catzz66 said:

Neil Brooks wrote:
>
> IMO, it's because of ride position on a road bike. When you're in the
> drops, especially, the visor blocks your view of the road ahead.
>
> This can be a minor safety hazard ;-)

I sure would not want one on my helmet for just the reason Neil says.
If the OP's gotta have one, though, he could post his general location
and maybe some kind hearted roadie would send him his unused visor.

I'm trying to get into touring. In this more upright position I want
to keep the sun out of my eyes, etc. That's why I'm asking about visors.

But will you /have/ drop bars? If so, then--even if it's just to take
the pressure off of one spot or another--you'll likely want to change
hand positions from time to time.

I'm not trying to talk you out of your quest. I hope that's clear.
Just something to think about.

I think some of the visors do flip up, by the way. Maybe you'll have
the best of both worlds.

Have fun touring!
--
Live simply so that others may simply live

Neil Brooks said:

I think some of the visors do flip up, by the way. Maybe you'll have
the best of both worlds.

Classic cotton cycling caps have visors that easily flip up or down, as
required. Handy.

(Unfortunately, they're hard to find in large sizes, and without the
silly "I'm pretending I'm on Team Postal Service" graphics.)

- Frank Krygowski

Quoted message said:

Mike said:

Is there a manufacturer/seller of after market bell helmet
visors? My helmet did not come with a visor and I want
to put one on it?

flatline said:

Your helmet is designed for "road" use. Off-road mountain bike helmets
have visors, though I don't know why this distinction exists. I use a
visor on my road rides anyway, for sun protection.
You can probably retrofit a scrapped MTB helmet visor to your road
helmet using adhesive velcro patches.

The 'marketing' department decided that visors=offroad. Here
inthe real world where we do not label helmets either way,
some riders just prefer a visor and some do not. I have
never seen a pattern in sales to correlate with
visor=offroad. In fact where 2 helmet models are otherwise
same, visored helmets outsell visorless generally despite a
$10 differential ( for 23c worth of plastic. . . )

Visored helmets may have pegs/holes or stickers or velcro
fasteners at the interface. The stick
visor-peg-in-helmet-hole type seems more secure than the
stick-on style although either will do. Get a visor with
'pegs', measure then poke a few holes. Should be
straightforward. Any shop which sells helmets will have
spare visors.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

r.b. wrote:

" Your helmet is designed for "road" use. Off-road mountain bike helmets
have visors, though I don't know why this distinction exists.

I'm guessing that the visor is for deflecting branches, brush, moose, and
stuff.

--
DTW .../\.../\.../\...

I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
The rest, I've just wasted.

Mike said:

I'm trying to get into touring. In this more upright position I want
to keep the sun out of my eyes, etc. That's why I'm asking about visors.

Mike

I recently asked about visors on another usenet (and started a very
long-running, ugly and unnecessary feud about the merits or not of
helmets). Anyway, someone gave me this webpage to check for a good
after-market visor. Might help?

http://www.lobosolo.com/visor/

D T W .../\... said:

r.b. wrote:

" Your helmet is designed for "road" use. Off-road mountain bike helmets
have visors, though I don't know why this distinction exists.

I'm guessing that the visor is for deflecting branches, brush, moose, and
stuff.

Actually, I think visors on MTB helmets were put there in imitation of
motocross helmets -- IOW, it's a style thing.

Re: visor benefits/hazards, I think visors are great for road riding and
somewhat dangerous for off-road riding. My (only) helmet (Bell) has a
visor. I have been surprised more than once by overhead branches since
peripheral vision above is blocked. On one memorable occasion I was
knocked off the bike with an impact hard enough to crack the helmet.

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I ride about as low in the drops as anyone I know, and a visor isn't a
terrible problem there. I do have to crane my neck a little, but when
that becomes uncomfortable I can just tilt the visor up a bit. A good
visor should tilt up, mine does, I think it would be pretty easy to
modify one to do this if it didn't.

WRT form and function, I think the industry has the visor thing exactly
backwards.

In article <[email hidden]>, Peter Cole

() said:

Re: visor benefits/hazards, I think visors are great for road riding and
somewhat dangerous for off-road riding. My (only) helmet (Bell) has a
visor. I have been surprised more than once by overhead branches since
peripheral vision above is blocked. On one memorable occasion I was
knocked off the bike with an impact hard enough to crack the helmet.

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I ride about as low in the drops as anyone I know, and a visor isn't a
terrible problem there. I do have to crane my neck a little, but when
that becomes uncomfortable I can just tilt the visor up a bit. A good
visor should tilt up, mine does, I think it would be pretty easy to
modify one to do this if it didn't.

WRT form and function, I think the industry has the visor thing exactly
backwards.

Not sure about this. Once upon a time The Woman Formerly Known As Mrs
Larrington was riding along, on the road, minding her own business. Her
progress was rudely arrested by a relentlessly non-moving and hitherto
unseen taxi, which wrought Instant Deth to the innocent bike she was on.
She ascribes her failure to see said taxicab until /far/ too late to the
presence of a visor on her MartleHat.

She no longer has either a visor nor, indeed, a MartleHat on which to
mount it.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Historians' Right To Work Campaign - We Demand A Continuing Supply Of
History!

Peter Cole said:

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I prefer caps to helmets. Still, I agree about the value of blocking
headlight glare with a visor, be it on a cap or a helmet.

But have you really found visors keep rain off your glasses? I've
wished for that to be true, but so far my wishes haven't been granted.
I end up taking my glasses off in any significant rain - which I don't
like very much because it means I've lost my eyeglass mirror.

How big a visor is needed to protect glasses from rain?

- Frank Krygowski

Quoted message said:

Peter Cole said:

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I prefer caps to helmets. Still, I agree about the value of blocking
headlight glare with a visor, be it on a cap or a helmet.

But have you really found visors keep rain off your glasses? I've
wished for that to be true, but so far my wishes haven't been granted.
I end up taking my glasses off in any significant rain - which I don't
like very much because it means I've lost my eyeglass mirror.

How big a visor is needed to protect glasses from rain?

Just an ordinary visor, extending an inch or two beyond the helmet,
works for me in a shower. Now a downpour, the kind where you're soaked
all over in 5-10 seconds, nothing helps. OK, there's some water gets on
my glasses, but I can see through them if it's not raining too hard.
Then again, I have to wear glasses to see; sometimes I want glasses
wipers...

Pat

Pat Lamb said:

Just an ordinary visor, extending an inch or two beyond the helmet,
works for me in a shower.

You wear a helmet taking a shower?!?

(Slow morning.)

BS

Peter Cole said:

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I frequently encounter low hanging branches when riding on paved paths.
A visor helps ensure they are delected the proper way. Visors are also
useful for deflecting swarms of mosquitos, gnats, and cottonwood seeds.

amakyonin said:

Peter Cole said:

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I frequently encounter low hanging branches when riding on paved paths.
A visor helps ensure they are delected the proper way. Visors are also
useful for deflecting swarms of mosquitos, gnats, and cottonwood seeds.

I wouldn't call that road riding... path riding is a separate category,
I guess. The branch I hit (trail riding in the woods) was perhaps 4" in
diameter -- it deflected me.

Quoted message said:

Peter Cole said:

Road riding doesn't include overhead hazards -- the benefit of a visor
to shade the face, keep rain off glasses and block oncoming headlight
glare make a visor on a road helmet a really handy feature.

I prefer caps to helmets. Still, I agree about the value of blocking
headlight glare with a visor, be it on a cap or a helmet.

But have you really found visors keep rain off your glasses? I've
wished for that to be true, but so far my wishes haven't been granted.
I end up taking my glasses off in any significant rain - which I don't
like very much because it means I've lost my eyeglass mirror.

How big a visor is needed to protect glasses from rain?

- Frank Krygowski

I suppose it has a lot to do with how low the visor is, and perhaps the
angle of your head. When it rains, I position myself so that I am just
peering under the visor and it does keep most of the rain off. My helmet
is a few-year-old Bell, the visor is reasonably large, but was "vented",
so I had to cover the slots up with tape.