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  1. I recently started a beginner's running program. I'm not new to exercise,
    just running. I currently work out with weights and cycle. I'm a 62 yo
    female who has never run but hopes it will help in saving bone density and
    increase my endurance level. I'm finding it takes a totally different type
    of endurance to run than it does to ride a century (metric) on the bike.

    The program alternates walking/running until you're able to run for 30
    minutes. My question is about the running portion. I'm currently using my
    treadmill as there's still a lot of snow and ice on the ground at the
    moment. Is 5 mph a reasonable speed for the running portion? I don't want
    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't want
    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed - just a
    comfortable jogging pace.

    The training program increases the running time each week but I'm thinking I
    may want to stick to a slower pace of increasing the running time since I'm
    taking up running a little late in life 🙂 I'm not preparing for any
    particular race so I don't have a time schedule. I would eventually like to
    enter some 5K runs in the area but I'm a long way from there right now.

    Beverly

  2. Beverly

    Congratulations on starting a running program. I am also 62 and I find it
    an excellent way to ward off old age. The speed is not as important as
    getting into a comfortable rhythm. The treadmill is also ok but it will get
    boring so plan on getting outside as soon as the footing gets better and you
    can take the cold. It is wise to take a few days a week off of running at
    our age so plan on using the bike in the spring to supplement your training.
    I strongly advise entering a race once you feel you can do the distance
    comfortably. It's also a good idea to make it a race that has shirts for
    the finishers. There is something about going out on the road with a "real"
    running shirt. Also I suggest that you try to find a group or at least a
    friend that you can run with. Not only is it more fun to run in a group but
    you will learn a lot about shoes and running clothes from their experience.

    Keep it up. But remember you are doing it for fitness so don't push too
    hard.

    Bob

    "Beverly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I recently started a beginner's running program. I'm not new to exercise,
    just running. I currently work out with weights and cycle. I'm a 62 yo
    female who has never run but hopes it will help in saving bone density and
    increase my endurance level. I'm finding it takes a totally different
    type
    of endurance to run than it does to ride a century (metric) on the bike.

    The program alternates walking/running until you're able to run for 30
    minutes. My question is about the running portion. I'm currently using
    my
    treadmill as there's still a lot of snow and ice on the ground at the
    moment. Is 5 mph a reasonable speed for the running portion? I don't
    want
    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't
    want
    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed - just
    a
    comfortable jogging pace.

    The training program increases the running time each week but I'm thinking
    I
    may want to stick to a slower pace of increasing the running time since
    I'm
    taking up running a little late in life 🙂 I'm not preparing for any
    particular race so I don't have a time schedule. I would eventually like
    to
    enter some 5K runs in the area but I'm a long way from there right now.

    Beverly

  3. Beverly wrote:

    Welcome, Beverly. I'm 57, female, and started more structured running
    about 4 yr ago. I've had an active life style (hiking, etc) and had done
    short runs (20-30 min) a few times a week for a number of years before I
    got interested in going longer - mainly stress relief.

    Quoted message said:

    I recently started a beginner's running program. I'm not new to exercise,
    just running. I currently work out with weights and cycle. I'm a 62 yo
    female who has never run but hopes it will help in saving bone density

    Were you diagnosed with low bone density or just interested as a
    preventive measure? (My bone density scan a few years ago was ok, but I
    have added some strength work for added measure. I was already running.)
    Since you are probably reasonably aerobically fit from your cycling,
    you may need to pay more attention to legs on buildup, esp. if have low
    bone density to start so you don't overdo things.

    and

    Quoted message said:

    increase my endurance level. I'm finding it takes a totally different type
    of endurance to run than it does to ride a century (metric) on the bike.

    The program alternates walking/running until you're able to run for 30
    minutes. My question is about the running portion. I'm currently using my
    treadmill as there's still a lot of snow and ice on the ground at the
    moment. Is 5 mph a reasonable speed for the running portion?

    Generally, start with a speed where you could talk comfortably with the
    person next to you (or yourself if your tm is at home). 5mph is probably
    reasonable for starting.

    I don't want

    Quoted message said:

    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't want
    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed - just a
    comfortable jogging pace.

    Yep, that's exactly what it is - a comfortable jogging pace or
    conversational effort. As you might imagine, someone who has been a
    couch potato all their lives might find running at all a chore while
    someone who has a fair amt of aerobic fitness, may be able to do 4-6 mph
    or faster, depending on age.

    Quoted message said:


    The training program increases the running time each week but I'm thinking I
    may want to stick to a slower pace of increasing the running time since I'm
    taking up running a little late in life 🙂

    That's fine. Listen to your body. You may be used to this from cycling,
    but you may find you develop minor aches/pains in the feet and legs
    being used in running. When first starting, sometimes it's really hard
    to distinguish just normal startup-type aches/pains from injury-type
    pain (been there, done that). If you're not sure, err on the cautious
    side and either don't increase the run portion or backoff a little. As
    I'm sure you know, healing takes longer as you age. Best bet is to keep
    uninjured.

    I'm not preparing for any

    Quoted message said:

    particular race so I don't have a time schedule. I would eventually like to
    enter some 5K runs in the area but I'm a long way from there right now.

    Bob made a couple good suggestions about running outside and running
    with groups. Here's a couple more. I'm not sure if you like hiking or
    other offroad activities or even have done much walking, period, as
    opposed to cycling. But dirt trails are frequently more forgiving of
    older legs. However, if uneven, they can work a lot of fine balance
    muscles that may not be ready for it. You might start with hiking in
    your running shoes to build up the ankle. Then add run / hikes.
    Aerobically, hiking up a steep hill can raise your heart rate as much as
    running.

    You could also include some mtn biking. If the hill's too steep to ride,
    then walk or run it. The hiking/running parts would be more important
    than the riding part for you. I've used this for rehab. You might also
    consider a duathlon down the line.

    If running with groups, be careful not to get sucked into too long or
    too fast a run for what you're ready for. You may need to find a group
    that fits your personality or needs or is flexible. Some people like
    large groups while others, like myself, prefer low key, let's go
    exploring in the woods, type groups. Actually, I prefer running alone,
    but it's fun to go with a small group to a new trail, esp. when we
    realized that nobody really knows where the trailhead is 😉

    But, take your time building up carefully, and you'll find a wonderful,
    exciting world out there running. Listen to your body and learn how to
    interpret it can be more valuable than a running program, since they
    usually aren't designed for us later-in-life-beginner folks. Enjoy!

    Dot

    --
    "You try to slow down and enjoy it. You try to look at the scenery. But
    your brain can kind of go blank. All you want to do is tell your feet to
    keep working."
    -Cedar Petrosius, women's winner 2004 Matanuska Peak Challenge (14mi,
    9000ft up and down)

  4. PS: Be sure you have appropriate shoes for running, esp. if you suspect
    you might have any pronation or other foot issues. A real running shoe
    store (not the ones at the mall) may be able to help you, although with
    everything, it's up to the buyer to do some homework.

  5. Quoted message said:

    I'm finding it takes a totally different type
    of endurance to run than it does to ride a century (metric) on the bike.

    The program alternates walking/running until you're able to run for 30
    minutes. My question is about the running portion. I'm currently using my
    treadmill as there's still a lot of snow and ice on the ground at the
    moment. Is 5 mph a reasonable speed for the running portion? I don't want
    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't want
    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed - just a
    comfortable jogging pace.

    Isn't "a comfortable pace" self explanatory??? The slower you go, the less
    chance of injurys.

  6. P.S. Treadmill running is nothing like road or trail running (I recommend the
    later for newbies) and you can expect a whole new challenge when you switch to
    the streets. Probably a good idea to get in some road mileage now, even if it's
    a few times a week.

  7. Quoted message said:

    It's also a good idea to make it a race that has shirts for
    the finishers. There is something about going out on the road with a "real"
    running shirt.

    Yes there is, it's the comedic value we REAL distance runners get from seeing a
    newbie wearing a race shirt (very amatureish)

  8. "BobB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Beverly

    Congratulations on starting a running program. I am also 62 and I find it
    an excellent way to ward off old age. The speed is not as important as
    getting into a comfortable rhythm. The treadmill is also ok but it will


    get

    Quoted message said:

    boring so plan on getting outside as soon as the footing gets better and


    you

    Quoted message said:

    can take the cold. It is wise to take a few days a week off of running at
    our age so plan on using the bike in the spring to supplement your


    training.

    I plan on easing into running. My main goal is to just increase the
    endurance. I'm just on the first week and it's 4 minutes walking and 2
    minutes running for 30 minutes. I'm not gasping for breath at the end of
    the running but I certainly am ready for some walking 🙂 I plan on using
    that bike this weekend. It's going to be in the mid 40'sF.

    Quoted message said:

    I strongly advise entering a race once you feel you can do the distance
    comfortably. It's also a good idea to make it a race that has shirts for
    the finishers. There is something about going out on the road with a


    "real"

    Quoted message said:

    running shirt. Also I suggest that you try to find a group or at least a
    friend that you can run with. Not only is it more fun to run in a group


    but

    Quoted message said:

    you will learn a lot about shoes and running clothes from their


    experience.

    Quoted message said:


    I entered a local 5K walk/run event a few years ago and enjoyed it. I
    walked but still received a 3rd place trophy. It was a small event and
    there weren't too many in my age group<g> The first two positions were won
    by runners. By company has a running team and they're always looking for
    people. The organizer said he would love to have someone from my age group
    to participate. It's mostly fun runs, charity events, etc - no serious
    races.

    Quoted message said:

    Keep it up. But remember you are doing it for fitness so don't push too
    hard.

    Bob

    Thanks. Fitness is my main goal here.

    Beverly

    Quoted message said:

    "Beverly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I recently started a beginner's running program. I'm not new to


    exercise,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just running. I currently work out with weights and cycle. I'm a 62 yo
    female who has never run but hopes it will help in saving bone density


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    increase my endurance level. I'm finding it takes a totally different
    type
    of endurance to run than it does to ride a century (metric) on the


    bike.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The program alternates walking/running until you're able to run for 30
    minutes. My question is about the running portion. I'm currently using
    my
    treadmill as there's still a lot of snow and ice on the ground at the
    moment. Is 5 mph a reasonable speed for the running portion? I don't
    want
    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't
    want
    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed -


    just

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a
    comfortable jogging pace.

    The training program increases the running time each week but I'm


    thinking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I
    may want to stick to a slower pace of increasing the running time since
    I'm
    taking up running a little late in life 🙂 I'm not preparing for any
    particular race so I don't have a time schedule. I would eventually


    like

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to
    enter some 5K runs in the area but I'm a long way from there right now.

    Beverly

  9. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Beverly wrote:

    Welcome, Beverly. I'm 57, female, and started more structured running
    about 4 yr ago. I've had an active life style (hiking, etc) and had done
    short runs (20-30 min) a few times a week for a number of years before I
    got interested in going longer - mainly stress relief.

    I've always had an active lifestyle. I played softball until my early 30's
    and have always rode bikes. I've really increased the biking in the past
    few years. It's a great stress reliever for me.

    Quoted message said:


    Were you diagnosed with low bone density or just interested as a
    preventive measure? (My bone density scan a few years ago was ok, but I
    have added some strength work for added measure. I was already running.)
    Since you are probably reasonably aerobically fit from your cycling,
    you may need to pay more attention to legs on buildup, esp. if have low
    bone density to start so you don't overdo things.


    I had a bone scan about 5 years ago. It wasn't good but it wasn't full
    blown osteoporosis - just osteopenia. My doctor recommended weight training
    and put me on medication. The most recent bone scan indicated things are
    improving but there's still room for improvement. My doctor says the
    running is fine as long as I don't overdo it. He worries more about my
    biking but knows there's no hope of talking me out of it. Knock on wood -
    I've never had a serious crash.

    Quoted message said:

    Generally, start with a speed where you could talk comfortably with the
    person next to you (or yourself if your tm is at home). 5mph is probably
    reasonable for starting.

    I don't want

    Quoted message said:

    to start out too fast and risk an injury but on the other hand I don't


    want

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to be going too slow. The training book doesn't specify any speed -


    just a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    comfortable jogging pace.

    Yep, that's exactly what it is - a comfortable jogging pace or
    conversational effort. As you might imagine, someone who has been a
    couch potato all their lives might find running at all a chore while
    someone who has a fair amt of aerobic fitness, may be able to do 4-6 mph
    or faster, depending on age.

    Quoted message said:


    The training program increases the running time each week but I'm


    thinking I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    may want to stick to a slower pace of increasing the running time since


    I'm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    taking up running a little late in life 🙂

    That's fine. Listen to your body. You may be used to this from cycling,
    but you may find you develop minor aches/pains in the feet and legs
    being used in running. When first starting, sometimes it's really hard
    to distinguish just normal startup-type aches/pains from injury-type
    pain (been there, done that). If you're not sure, err on the cautious
    side and either don't increase the run portion or backoff a little. As
    I'm sure you know, healing takes longer as you age. Best bet is to keep
    uninjured.

    I'm not preparing for any

    Quoted message said:

    particular race so I don't have a time schedule. I would eventually


    like to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    enter some 5K runs in the area but I'm a long way from there right now.

    Bob made a couple good suggestions about running outside and running
    with groups. Here's a couple more. I'm not sure if you like hiking or
    other offroad activities or even have done much walking, period, as
    opposed to cycling. But dirt trails are frequently more forgiving of
    older legs. However, if uneven, they can work a lot of fine balance
    muscles that may not be ready for it. You might start with hiking in
    your running shoes to build up the ankle. Then add run / hikes.
    Aerobically, hiking up a steep hill can raise your heart rate as much as
    running.

    You could also include some mtn biking. If the hill's too steep to ride,
    then walk or run it. The hiking/running parts would be more important
    than the riding part for you. I've used this for rehab. You might also
    consider a duathlon down the line.

    If running with groups, be careful not to get sucked into too long or
    too fast a run for what you're ready for. You may need to find a group
    that fits your personality or needs or is flexible. Some people like
    large groups while others, like myself, prefer low key, let's go
    exploring in the woods, type groups. Actually, I prefer running alone,
    but it's fun to go with a small group to a new trail, esp. when we
    realized that nobody really knows where the trailhead is 😉

    But, take your time building up carefully, and you'll find a wonderful,
    exciting world out there running. Listen to your body and learn how to
    interpret it can be more valuable than a running program, since they
    usually aren't designed for us later-in-life-beginner folks. Enjoy!

    Dot


    Thanks for all the advice. I don't do any mountain biking as I ride a road
    bike. I do have a training ride in a nearby local park that consists of 8
    very hilly miles. I'm thinking this might also make a good place to do some
    of my running. I always see runners there.

    Beverly

  10. "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    PS: Be sure you have appropriate shoes for running, esp. if you suspect
    you might have any pronation or other foot issues. A real running shoe
    store (not the ones at the mall) may be able to help you, although with
    everything, it's up to the buyer to do some homework.


    I've already visited the local running store and purchased new shoes.
    Fortunately I don't have any foot problems other than a slightly high arch
    and they were able to find shoes with adequate support. They feel great.

    Beverly

  11. Beverly said:

    "Dot" <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Beverly wrote:

    Welcome, Beverly. I'm 57, female, and started more structured running
    about 4 yr ago. I've had an active life style (hiking, etc) and had done
    short runs (20-30 min) a few times a week for a number of years before I
    got interested in going longer - mainly stress relief.

    I've always had an active lifestyle. I played softball until my early 30's
    and have always rode bikes.

    Softball was my first love until I got out of hs and went to college
    without softball team. But that's why I got more into hiking, etc. then
    my job has always taken me in field work most of summer.

    I've really increased the biking in the past

    Quoted message said:

    few years. It's a great stress reliever for me.

    I can relate to that pattern 😉

    Quoted message said:

    My doctor says the
    running is fine as long as I don't overdo it. He worries more about my
    biking but knows there's no hope of talking me out of it.

    ok, that's good.

    Enjoy your new sport!

    Dot

    --
    "You try to slow down and enjoy it. You try to look at the scenery. But
    your brain can kind of go blank. All you want to do is tell your feet to
    keep working."
    -Cedar Petrosius, women's winner 2004 Matanuska Peak Challenge (14mi,
    9000ft up and down)

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