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  1. Hello all ๐Ÿ™‚

    I've just started to learn to ride, about 10 half hour sessions so far and
    have gotten to the stage where i can ride about 5 meters (not much I know)
    before I either fall off (getting good at that one) or I continue for about
    another 5-10 meters but the seat moves quite eractically between my legs and
    i can't keep it still.

    As i'm learning without knowing/seeing how it should be done i'm getting a
    bit stuck.

    I'm thinking i might be putting to much pressure on the pedals causing the
    seat to move around alot. I've started trying to slow down my ride which has
    helped the seat wobble.

    Any ideas/thoughts?

    Cheers
    norry

  2. If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are very likely
    not keeping your weight on the seat.

    Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat; don't be
    afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in front of you.

    You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs when you're
    riding on flat ground and your weight is on the seat.

    Good luck,
    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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    '6th Annual LBI Unithon - Sat, June 5, 2004'
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  3. Many thanks, will give that a try on tomorrow's session (on my lunch break
    from work).
    I'm trying to be patient but i can't wait untill I can ride properly ๐Ÿ™‚

    Cheers
    norry

    "JJuggle" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are very likely
    not keeping your weight on the seat.

    Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat; don't be
    afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in front of you.

    You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs when you're
    riding on flat ground and your weight is on the seat.

    Good luck,
    Raphael Lasar
    Matawan, NJ

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    JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists

    '6th Annual LBI Unithon - Sat, June 5, 2004'
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  4. I suggest maybe putting your seat a little higher unless it is quite
    high already. I found it great to have it really high when learning the
    went lower after I could ride really well, and put it even lower when I
    got into trials.

    --
    Robbie - Spoons Taste Good

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  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    JJuggle <[email hidden]> wrote:
    )
    )If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are very likely
    )not keeping your weight on the seat.
    )
    )Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat; don't be
    )afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in front of you.
    )
    )You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs when you're
    )riding on flat ground and your weight is on the seat.

    In addition, make sure you have the seat high enough. Your leg should be
    nearly fully extended when your foot is at the bottom of your pedal
    stroke. If your seat is too low, it will be hard to put enough weight
    on it.
    -Tom

  6. I learned to ride the same as you apperently (get on, fall off, repeat
    until frustrated) and it did take me a very long while to get it.
    However, my girlfriend (Annika) has recently learned to uni and we found
    that having someone (me!) walking alongside her and being a 'move-able
    support' really helped her. She got a chance to actually sit on the uni
    for a bit and get used to the whole weird feeling of being up there, but
    then also had a bit of support when it was needed rather than just
    having to fall off all the time.
    It's probably not practical for you to get one of your workmates to help
    you every lunch time, but if you can get a willing volounteer to assist
    you now and again (and give them shin gaurds to wear as well if you have
    them - it might save a few bruises and a friendship) then that might
    give you a good boost.
    Another tip is to try and pedal to somewhere, not just from one pedal
    stroke to the next. You don't want to jerk your pedal strokes, they want
    to be nice and steady and we found that focusing on trying to ride (for
    example) from one wall to another helps you to switch off the bit of
    your brain that wants you to pedal half a revolution at a time (then
    stop for a bit) instead.
    Oh, and I'm sure that I won't be the only one to say this, but it also
    just takes lots of practise.

    Good luck,
    Gary

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  7. Thanks for all the advice. Unfortunately the seat post is at the highest
    point already and my legs are bent when my foot is at the bottom of the
    pedal.

    I will try and focus for the time being on not being so pedal heavy and
    actually sit on the saddle instead of balancing just above it which i tend
    to do at the moment. I think i might be buying a new saddle post however.

    I forgot to mention that there actually two of us here in work trying to
    learn unicycling ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thanks again.
    norry

    "Tom Holub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    JJuggle <[email hidden]> wrote:
    )
    )If the seat is moving around a lot under you then you are very likely
    )not keeping your weight on the seat.
    )
    )Sit straight up and keep your weight solidly on the seat; don't be
    )afraid to just sit. Look 10 or 15 feet out in front of you.
    )
    )You will be amazed how little work it is for your legs when you're
    )riding on flat ground and your weight is on the seat.

    In addition, make sure you have the seat high enough. Your leg should be
    nearly fully extended when your foot is at the bottom of your pedal
    stroke. If your seat is too low, it will be hard to put enough weight
    on it.
    -Tom

  8. If your legs are bent all the time, it's harder to control the wheel.
    Most unicycles that I see in stores, the 20" ones at least, have seat
    posts that would be too short for an average adult. Getting the seat
    high enough will indeed make things easier. Aside from that, the main
    thing you need is patience and persistence. I taught myself by trying to
    get from one wall of my apartment to the other, and it took me close to
    two weeks to do that consistently. I always get comments from people on
    the street about how they "tried one of those years ago, and couldn't do
    it." It invariably turns out that they just tried it a few times, didn't
    get past the point where it no longer seems obviously impossible, and
    gave up. You're developing a new set of reflexes, like learning how to
    walk, and just doing it over and over and over will gradually teach your
    body what to do and what not to do in order to stay on the thing. The
    amount of time you've taken to get to where you are now is not at all
    unusual.

    Seat adjusted
    Most of your weight on the seat
    Balls of your feet, not the arches, on the pedals
    Sit up straight
    Wrists guards are good
    Pain is weakness leaving the body

    --
    weeble - There can be only one... wheel

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    Level 2 and holding
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  9. Thanks for the advice, I think I might see about getting a larger seat post
    to see if that helps.

    The one thing I won't be doing is giving up ๐Ÿ™‚

    I'm solely looking forward to work now for the half an hour I get to
    practice on my unicycle.
    It does help that I've got a work mate that is also learning, and infact the
    sessions are becoming
    little social events for other workers who want to see what's going on ๐Ÿ™‚

    Thanks all again, this newsgroup has been a great inspiration for me.

    norry

    "weeble" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    If your legs are bent all the time, it's harder to control the wheel.
    Most unicycles that I see in stores, the 20" ones at least, have seat
    posts that would be too short for an average adult. Getting the seat
    high enough will indeed make things easier. Aside from that, the main
    thing you need is patience and persistence. I taught myself by trying to
    get from one wall of my apartment to the other, and it took me close to
    two weeks to do that consistently. I always get comments from people on
    the street about how they "tried one of those years ago, and couldn't do
    it." It invariably turns out that they just tried it a few times, didn't
    get past the point where it no longer seems obviously impossible, and
    gave up. You're developing a new set of reflexes, like learning how to
    walk, and just doing it over and over and over will gradually teach your
    body what to do and what not to do in order to stay on the thing. The
    amount of time you've taken to get to where you are now is not at all
    unusual.

    Seat adjusted
    Most of your weight on the seat
    Balls of your feet, not the arches, on the pedals
    Sit up straight
    Wrists guards are good
    Pain is weakness leaving the body

    --
    weeble - There can be only one... wheel

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    Another Joe in MN
    Level 2 and holding
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  10. Firstly, as everyone has said, weight on the saddle.

    Secondly, don't look down. Look where you're going. A distant object
    at eye level is good, or if you must look at the ground, look about 20
    metres ahead.

    Thirdly, rhythm. A common beginner's mistake is to try to regain
    balance after every pedal stroke. Stomp, wobble, stomp, wobble, stomp,
    wobble etc. This is hard work. The unicycle should keep falling
    forwards, and the wheel should never quite catch up. So if you are
    always falling forwards, controlling your balance is simply a matter of
    adjusting how much pressure you're putting on the pedals, and how fast
    you're pedalling. If you try to regain your balance after every stroke
    or two, then you'll be reversing the direction of pressure on the pedals
    - and that's loads harder.

    Fourthly, set goals. Either count pedal strokes, or try to reach
    landmarks.

    Fifthly, as soon as you can ride confidently for 10 metres or so,
    introduce an element of challenge like trying to go round a corner, or
    zig zag between cones. Nothing too difficult. it's surprising how when
    you return to simple riding, it will seem easy.

    Practise hard.

    Have fun.

    --
    Mikefule - Roland Hope School of Unicycling

    Some days you're the fly; some days you're the windscreen. When you're
    the fly, you get to eat [censored].
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  11. This little chant may help: "Heavy on the seat, potato-chips under the
    feet. Heavy on the seat, potato-chips under the feet. Heavy on the
    seat, potato-chips under the feet... you get the idea.

    When my daughters were learning to ride, they would repeat that phrase
    over and over as they would ride across the driveway.

    I also agree with having someone walk along side you for support. This
    allows you to ride several hundred feet before a fall. In my opinion,
    you are actually building memory in your hams and quads of what must
    happen for you to ride free. --chirokid--

    --
    chirokid - Wolfman 2004: Unicycle Catagory

    "Other than that, the best maintenance is to keep riding it as this
    helps to keep the eccentric nut on the saddle in optimal condition."
    quote by Mikefule

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  12. Mikefule said:

    Secondly, don't look down. Look where you're going. A distant object
    at eye level is good, or if you must look at the ground, look about 20
    metres ahead.

    I respectfully disagree. For an accomplished rider looking at the
    ground close by makes riding somewhat harder, indeed no real rider
    will do it as a rule. But I definitely remember that when I was
    learning it was easier to look down as compared to far away. It felt
    as if I could very well use the additional sensory (visual) input
    about what the wheel was doing.

    So I say look down if you want, it'll go away with time.

    I think the misconception is that what is easiest for me, must be
    easiest for you.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
    --
    be sure to remove the saddle and simply sit on the seat post. this is far more comfortable - tennisgh22 on the comfort of Savage unis

  13. I was just thinking about that last night, KB. I am always looking at
    the floor, and thought that was a bad thing. But then I remembered
    learning how to drive, I would always be looking at the driver's side of
    the hood, instead of far along the road I was driving, so I wouldn't
    drift into the oncoming lane. It was a bad habit, but it disappeared
    once I had more driving practice.

    --
    digigal1 - 3 revs on carpet! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Omni for Uni and Uni for Omni!
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  14. digigal1 said:

    But then I remembered
    learning how to drive, I would always be looking at the driver's side of
    the hood, instead of far along the road I was driving

    Don't take it that I sanctioned that behaviour...

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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