bearings on Suzue hub

andrew-<< Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but
it's the loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? >><BR><BR>

They are not the same, wish i could remember tho. I think one side is 1/4 and the other 7/32 or 7/32
and 3/16 but not the same...

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Andrew Karre inquired:

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way home
from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the
loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

The freewheel side uses 9 1/4" balls, like 99.99% of rear hubs.

The fixed gear side, however, uses the next size down, 5/32"

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Originally posted by Sheldon Brown
Andrew Karre inquired:

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way home
from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the
loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

The freewheel side uses 9 1/4" balls, like 99.99% of rear hubs.

The fixed gear side, however, uses the next size down, 5/32"

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The cones take different sized wrenches on each side too.
Diablo "Non Cone Centric" Scott

"Ille sinistrorsum hic dexrorsum abit, unus utrique error, sed variis
illudit partibus. - Horace
On 14 Jan 2004 05:31:08 -0800, [email hidden] (Andrew Karre)

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way home
from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the
loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

Suzue's SIL-SP rear hub uses nine 1/4" balls on the "free" side cup; the cup on the "fixed" side
contains ten 3/16" balls.

The front SIL-SP hubs have ten 3/16" balls per side.
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Andrew Karre asked:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way home
from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the
loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

He got three different answers from usually-reliable sources:

I said 5/32" on the fixed side.

John Dacey said 3/16" on the fixed side.

Peter Chisholm said 7/32" on the fixed side.

So I popped one apart and measured it. Turns out that, on the average, we were all right!

However specifically, only John had the correct number.

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Sheldon and Peter,

Thank you both! Much appreciated.

AK

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Quoted message said:

Andrew Karre inquired:

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way
home from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's
the loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

The freewheel side uses 9 1/4" balls, like 99.99% of rear hubs.

The fixed gear side, however, uses the next size down, 5/32"

Sheldon "Asymmetrical" Brown +----------------------------------------------------+
| Friendship is like money, easier made than kept. | --Samuel Butler |
+----------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.comOpen ↗ Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
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Andrew Karre said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way home
from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the
loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

The clever design is affordable because Suzue uses a standard front cup on the fixed side with a
front cone drilled to 9.5mm. Therefore use 1/4 on the freewheel side and 3/16" on the fixed side.

(The prudent rider will watch the lubrication and adjustment more closely on that hub)

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Quoted message said:

Andrew Karre inquired:

Quoted message said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way
home from work and not have to make two trips today, so... Are the bearings on both sides of a
Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's the loose bearing model that costs
about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

Sheldon Brown said:

The freewheel side uses 9 1/4" balls, like 99.99% of rear hubs. The fixed gear side, however, uses
the next size down, 5/32"

Sheldon, your brain was thinking,'standard front hub cup and cone on the fixed side - 3/16" ' But
your fingers ambled over to type 5/32" all by themselves.

1/4 and 3/16 is right.
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Andrew Karre said:

I know I could just take the bearings out, but if one of you knows, I can get them on my way
home from work and not have to make two trips today, so...

Are the bearings on both sides of a Suzue Basic rear track hub (known by other names, but it's
the loose bearing model that costs about $30)
1/4 inch? Or something else? I'm sure someone has replaced these.

The clever design is affordable because Suzue uses a standard front cup on the fixed side with a
front cone drilled to 9.5mm. Therefore use 1/4 on the freewheel side and 3/16" on the fixed side.

(The prudent rider will watch the lubrication and adjustment more closely on that hub)

I figured it all out eventually and I'm sure I'll find a use for 5/32 bearings somewhere...

You're not exaggerating about the adjustment on this hub. I think my next fixed gear wheel will use
another model. Riding this hub in Minnesota in winter means my 13 and 15 mm cone wrenches are
getting a workout.

But you get what you pay for.

Thanks to all, AK

Capt-<< The freewheel side uses 9 1/4" balls, like 99.99% of rear hubs.

The fixed gear side, however, uses the next size down, 5/32" >><BR><BR>

errr, since 1/4 inch are 8/32, the next size down is 7/32...., then 6/32(3/16), THEN 5/32....

still winter, still dark.

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