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  1. I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect there
    to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the seatpost tube
    (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it probably has an
    adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge type).

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that needs
    them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I had the
    bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving a scalpel
    in someone's body 😉

  2. may have said:

    I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect there
    to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the seatpost tube
    (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it probably has an
    adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge type).

    It is very common for the seat post tube to penetrate the BB shell,
    providing a path for water to get into the BB and for what you have
    observed as well.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that needs
    them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I had the
    bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving a scalpel
    in someone's body 😉

    If they're fairly large, 1/4" or over, they're almost certainly from
    the BB, but may have fallen from the cups during installation long
    ago. I'd still pull the BB apart and take a close look at it, though.
    If the BB has a full complement of balls, there's no need to worry.
    The crank would be quite wobbly if things were sufficiently awry in
    the BB to allow balls to escape, so it's almost certain that they
    merely escaped during assembly last time, and may well have been
    replaced due to having dived into one of the frame tubes during the
    process.

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  3. "Werehatrack" wrote: It is very common for the seat post tube to penetrate
    the BB shell, providing a path for water to get into the BB and for what you
    have observed as well.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    If you probe the depth of the seat tube with something like a welding rod,
    you can verify whether the bottom is open to the bearing area. This could
    save you the need to disassemble the bottom bracket (or motivate you to do
    it soon.)

  4. Quoted message said:

    I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect there
    to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the seatpost tube
    (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it probably has an
    adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge type).

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that needs
    them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I had the
    bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving a scalpel
    in someone's body 😉

    They could well have been lost during a BB overhaul. Just got stuck to some
    grease inside the shell. If you'll look down the seat tube, if there were any
    light you'd see the BB down at the far end, at least for the sort of lugged
    frame typical back then.

    Ron

  5. Quoted message said:

    I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect there
    to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the seatpost tube
    (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it probably has an
    adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge type).

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that needs
    them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I had the
    bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving a scalpel
    in someone's body 😉


    Yep. You're right. Simple mechanic error

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    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  6. Leo Lichtman said:

    "Werehatrack" wrote: It is very common for the seat post tube to


    penetrate

    Quoted message said:

    the BB shell, providing a path for water to get into the BB and for


    what you

    Quoted message said:

    have observed as well.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    If you probe the depth of the seat tube with something like a welding


    rod,

    Quoted message said:

    you can verify whether the bottom is open to the bearing area. This


    could

    Quoted message said:

    save you the need to disassemble the bottom bracket (or motivate you


    to do

    Quoted message said:

    it soon.)

    And who doesn't have a welding rod somewhere in their tool
    box...........? Hows about a flashlight? A bit more common, eh?

  7. "Meccanico di Bici" wrote: And who doesn't have a welding rod somewhere in
    their tool box...........? Hows about a flashlight? A bit more common, eh?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    "Something like a welding rod" could include things like a straightened coat
    hanger, or a dowel. Looking into a deep narrow hole with a flashlight is
    hard to do because so much light reflects from the top, and so little from
    the bottom.

  8. Quoted message said:

    I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect
    there to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the
    seatpost tube (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it
    probably has an adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge
    type).

    Shine a light down the seat tube and look- in all lugged steel frames
    it is wide open to the BB shell. You can see the BB in there, as a
    matter of fact. There's usually but not always an opening in fillet
    brazed steel frames, aluminum frames and Ti frames; I've never looked
    in a CF frame so I don't know what the convention is there.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that
    needs them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I
    had the bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving
    a scalpel in someone's body 😉

    Presumably they fell out of the BB as it was being reassembled. If
    they are 1/4" balls, that's almost certainly what happened. There's
    probably been a rattle in your bike since the b ike was overhauled.

  9. Quoted message said:

    I flipped my bike upside down with the seatpost removed to do some
    maintenance and a couple of bearings fell out of the seatpost tube.

    I've never disassembled the bottom bracket, but I wouldn't expect there
    to be an open path for the BB bearings to get into the seatpost tube
    (even though, since my bike was made in '85, it probably has an
    adjustable type BB, rather than the sealed cartridge type).

    I'm kind of puzzled how they might have gotten in there and more
    importantly, if they are now missing from another component that needs
    them. They might have been inadvertantly put in there when I had the
    bike overhauled by a shop years ago, like a surgeon leaving a scalpel
    in someone's body 😉

    This is similar process to the way oysters create pearls.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Earth

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